Steevo wrote:
There was no real evidence at all. So why make such a big thing of it ?
I would suggest that because Terry is the England captain it became a media circus. Whether or not it should have gone to court is another matter, I couldn't really comment, as I haven't particularly followed this story.
It all leads to self censorship due to fear of being taken to court (whether it be stuff posted on the internet, or stuff you say to other people). Let me just point out that I do not like it when people say hateful things to one another based on race but the PTB are NOT bothered in the slightest about so called "racists", it's the non-racists (and the loose cannon "celebrities") who the PTB are worried about. (eg ex President Carter reckons that the reason people speak out against Obama is cos they are "racist" in alot of cases.....I mean, what excuse did they have for people speaking out about Bush ? Were THEY racist too ?

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Also I have a mate who was in the job centre and he said to the official there that "the Poles are taking all our jobs" and he was asked if he was racist by the official. My mate aint racist. He is starting to realise though that he had better keep his gob shut. There you go. Keep your gob shut or be sent to jail for being racist.
Well, I wouldn't disagree with anything you've said here. I understand the concerns people have about political correctness and the real motives for it, and I am in favour of total free speech, in principle.
I find it a difficult issue, though, because I'm sure you've seen the old "no blacks, no dogs, no Irish" signs that used to exist. In principle, I believe that these were private businesses who should have been able to operate any way that they wish without government intervention, but on the other hand, I wouldn't want to live in a world in which such flagrant prejudice is socially acceptable. So I'm not sure how I feel about this issue.
All I was really saying is that I wouldn't be surprised if Terry had said something. Again, whether or not this should be considered a matter for the courts is debatable.
jhado wrote:
Having seen some of the testimony of messrs Terry and Ferdinand , it was like reading about a scrap in the playground.
Well, they are basically big kids. They never have to grow up. They spend their whole lives playing a ball game, don't have to think about anything as the clubs mollycoddle them and refer to them as "boys" when they're about 23, and then they retire as multi-millionaires. And many of them are not that bright to begin with.