irrepressible wrote:
In context my "misquote" was humourous and niggling at best, especially considering his sarcasm directed at people who were agreeing with me. He was being less than nice, put iot that way.

But calling me a cock sucker TWICE and evidently using moderation powers with it (ie.conflating Frog's role as poster and mod) is just crap.

I hadn't asked you to get involved but thanks and as for the option of being forum "enemies" that isn't really an option with a mod and a founder of the forum is it?

I don't feel very comfortable right now and i guess that will go down very well with Frog and a few other folks (those three that smited me today previous to all this).

I think it's time I take the next few hours off.

ETA:ronisron wrote:
Oh really? Frog said it was about a "misquote."
Now it's derailment?

I remember another guy who used to call disagreement derailment.

And he had mod-bully friends too.

Thankyou irre.


Ego's aside, when did the Sanctum Zone become a place where the leaving out of an emoticon in a quote warrants unilateral moderation and insult?

Did I miss that memo?

irrepressible wrote:
There's been a lot of weirdness that's come out about this whole Aurora thing in the MSM let alone on "conspiracy" sites. Then another shooting just days afterward apparently by a guy who was obsessed with 9-11, was former military, and shot up a Sikh temple though the 9-11 hijackers were said to be Muslim... on and on. It's the MSM stories that seem so damn flaky, that it makes people question just what is really going on. The Joker doesn't have red hair..... etc. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that the people with all the toys want everything for themselves, and if that involves killing some through war while enslaving the rest, they definitely have the means to do that at their disposal. They also have the means to stage these shootings.

mikey mikey wrote:
Poor, poor mikey. Now a martyr.... Forum victim..... always. Back to the thread. You're getting boring. I saw this whole act repeated ad nauseum at the DIF. To the letter...

ronisron wrote:
Not quite yet. We still haven't got to the bit where I tell the Mod-bully's pet boot boy to go fun himself and then I get the warning/suspension.

Any minute now...

This shit now is exactly like the DIF I'm not joking, I feel like I'm there, and it's not enjoyable.

We all have disagreements and we're not all going to get along all of the time, that's unrealistic. But I think when shit does go down between members here it should be sorted out and put to bed pretty quick.

dubmeup wrote:
The point is the intent of the misquote - something which isn't hard to discern with poster in question who is a dab hand at sneaky and underhand insinuations and misrepresentations! Care to explain the unilateral moderation point your insinuating? VIA PM as this thread is getting fucked up with peoples shit and attitudes. Community moderation is simple if you don't want people to think your an arse hole don't post like one. It's hilarious that someone being a twat calls foul when someone actually call them out for it. Maybe I'm not considered to be a member of the community and there for am not allowed to post and call shit out as and when I see it? I'm sure people here are quite capable of drawing their own conclusions as to what was intended, by whom and for what purpose.

The fact is there was a deliberate childish misquote with the sole intention of setting a context in total opposition to the original content. Maybe you are unable to see it for what it is - I have no idea and I really could care less how you interpret it or your reasoning.

Frog wrote:
So first it was a misquote, then a derailment and now this^

You should have spoken up sooner and I would not have joined.
Frog wrote:
Right on time!
Frog wrote:
Wow. One clipped smily (an eyesroll) and I get called a cocksucker, an arsehole and a twat.

We're running out of genitilia people!

But as you have admitted: it isn't about the alleged "misquote".

Anytime now....

I've thought it was staged since the first one happened... and continued to think so through the rest of them. What better way to implement more security and restrictions in the name of keeping people safe than have "crazy" people open fire on civilians. Didn't need a guitarist coming out saying it to bring it to my attention...although I think some people in the general public would probably need a fact sheet, ten eye witnesses to it being set up, and the president coming on national television and admitting it to even consider it. Was an interesting read.



As for the rest of this thread... popcorn anyone? Maybe if we all eat some buttery, possibly microwaved (could be bad for you) popcorn and share we can all just get along. Or does Barny have to be brought in, with his "I love you, you love me, we're one big happy family" song? Don't make the big purple dinosaur come out
Don't know what happened, don't care what happened, just stop the nonsense of arguing with each other or I'ma have to sit you all in your own damn corners for a timeout... *insert mother emoticon scolding her children for the 6th time in 2 minutes*

Anyway, just because Mustaine might have certain politcal leanings, doesn't mean he isn't right in what he said.
I know nothing of Mustaine or his music or his political leanings.

I don't know who Megadeath is (heavy metal?) and I usually have the opinion that some folk are just real bad bastards and shoot and kill for no other reason than they are warped.

And I think that is still the case, there are many nasty unhinged people in the world, there are however every now and again 'shootings or killings' that get loads of media coverage .

Are they mk ultered or staged who knows?, but it's more the coverage of the crimes than the crimes themselves that requires examination

irrepressible wrote:
Yet another concept that isn't hard to grasp! Strange how some people failed to comprehend that even after the author of the OP explained it in simple terms more than once.

mikey mikey wrote:
There's another one.... I'll say this, if you're not a paid shill/shit disturber, then you are just wasting your time in the volunteer role. Get some compensation, son! Moron....

I agree with what you're saying. That's essentially what I said to steer this thread back on track. It's what he's saying. It seems to me that Mustaine is saying "Obama" because he still believes that the President is the highest authority power in the US. It would probably be tough to explain to him that Obama's role is purely spoken word, he does no writing, and is not allowed to ad lib.

This has taken a turn for the distinctly crap. In fact It's rather changing my view of the place....

I'll take it to the members area rather than litter this thread with my thoughts that are unrelated to the topic.

I would just remind people of the following:

sanctumzone.co.uk/info/terms-and-policy-...ity-guide-lines.html
I could quote the entire rule, but I think this sentence is particularly relevant. It's really up to us all to at least attempt to maintain, and be consistent with, that principle, not condemn people for what they may or may not believe.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
The thread was about a statement made by a heavy metal guitarist. I found particular interest in the comments sections under the articles relating to the statement. A lot of people feel these latest shootings were staged events, consensus for this is because they feel an anti gun law/disarmament of the US citizenry is right around the corner. I happen to think they were staged as well. or at least encouraged/allowed to happen. Facilitated by people who have the ability to do so. For what ends? I don't know. Could be anti gun law, could be to impose restrictions, could be to spread fear..... but these and other incidents in the recent past don't seem to be "random, lone nut cases" though that does happen.

I thought that it was ultimately about the fact that people are really starting to become more aware of...possibilities. Thinking outside of that conventional box that's been imposed on us, conditioned into us. And I think it's great.

ronisron wrote:
You guys all know about the "Port Arthur Massacre" in Australia, right?

It was the catalyst for law abiding australian citizens to be disarmed. Or perhaps "problem-reaction-solution" depending on ones opinion on what really happenned.

There are also alternative to mainstream opinions on what that was all about also. Plenty of articles to be found if you run some searches.

The elite using the left wing to take american citizens guns...well that theory has been around for a while now in the truth movement...i refer to this david dees illustration that i recall is a few years old now...



People know about Rahm Emmanuels position on guns...

Of course he isnt in the government now but the "left wing" is still in power...in my opinion if there was a move by the ruling classes to disarm the masses in the USA, it would naturally have to occur when they have a "left wing" government in power.

Now for those who wonder what im getting to when i put "left wing" in quotations...it is because i dont subscribe to the left-right paradigm myself...i think its a front and two wings of the same bird, each side serves a purpose for the ruling class.

dawnbreak wrote:
Refer to the "port arthur massacre" in australia dawn.

It was definately used as the reason to disarm Australian citizens...makes you wonder hey.

I do believe, and this is my personal belief, that they do have the same agenda in mind for the USA, that is to disarm citizens.

I also know that they will have a much harder time of it in the USA, it wont be a push over like Australia was.

On the original topic I would say this. I have spent a lot of energy and time looking into Columbine. My wife is the real expert on Columbine but I am mainly just interested in the things about Columbine that don`t seem to be quite right. The stuff that doesn`t add up. ...I know this is not the topic but hang in here with me a moment your honour...

I personally from what I have read etc on Columbine believe that there was some sort of conspiracy involved. I am not sure what exactly or who by etc but that is my personal belief. However I would never declare that Clinton was behind it. I know much less about the Aurora shootings and so I can`t imagine Dave Mustaine has any reason to think Obama had anything to do with the Aurora shootings. I think the fact that he came out with it is just stupid to be honest. He has put himself in that category with Donald Trump and Ted Nugent. The only people who take those people seriously are right wing racists.

The problem we have which is clear from where I sit in Georgia is that you have these right wing talk radio and tv news "personalities" who are willing to blame everything on Obama. They do not have intelligent discussions on how this could be fishy or let`s examine this or that. They will say Obama wants your guns and he is not American but a Muslim commie from Kenya.

You might have questions about Aurora and you might seriously think that this will bring about gun control but making baseless accusations is not going to do any good to anybody or any cause.

On the note of the guy being crazy and therefore a perfect target for mind control the flip side to that is that the guy is also the perfect candidate for being a crazy guy that kills people randomly for no reason.

As for the Joker`s hair surely the mkultra people know what colour joker`s hair is just as much as Holmes should have known. Yes lots of things don`t make sense but that does not prove a conspiracy it is just something to look into.

Dave Mustaine`s politics showed such promise when he brought out "foreclosure of a dream" but sadly I think he has been drinking alex Jones` kool aid (in some side note trivia the Jonestown mass suicide thing it was not kool aid but something similar, I forget the name)

As for moderation I think it should be like acting. If it is really noticeable then you are doing it wrong.

mikey mikey wrote: mikey mikey wrote: mikey mikey wrote:
(i hate to further derail the thread...but...)

Look MM i just want to say that it doesnt work like that here. Members shouldnt be afraid to give to moderators as good as they can get...we are all big boys here (especially psketti).

Theres always the edit button for us mods when it gets too ugly , it doesnt go together with the ban button anywhere near as much as the other place ok. Over there if you speak about moderation it seems they have a special edit/ban button combined

And you cant tell moderators to f-off over there, members here (who arent here just to troll) and are genuine contributors can probably get away with just an edit job being done on the comment, (i probably shouldnt be making that common knowlege ) not that i agree with that sort of thing, just as i dont agree its necessary for anyone telling any member to f-off. That should be up to the members to know what should go and what doesnt.

I know that Frog posts as a member, not a moderator. He didnt like what you did and let you know as a member and his personal opinion.

There are 4 of us and we post as members, the moderation duties are done out of necessity, with community consensus in all but the most extreme of repeated spamming/abuse situations that require immediate action. someone has to do it hey.

So enough with the warning/banning talk hey

Ron did call you a name, i guess its only fair you get to call him one back...then perhaps i should edit them both out for the good of the forum.

Or dont call him anything at all and he edits the M word out on his own accord, thats up to him when he gets back.

As for Frog...well Im with irre on that, i dont agree with his choice of words or smiley either, but the place may fall apart into a heap of cyberjunk if he takes off so i will write it small and he might not see it.