MEDIA ZONE: Lloyd Pye — Every­thing You Know Is Wrong {Full Video}

Lloyd Pye presents his case in an attempt to uncover the conspiracy of the missing link.

His website is here https://​www​.lloy​d​pye​.com/

Great video Frog and thanks for posting it.
About half way through I had a derrrrr moment when he talked about plate tectonics. I've been referring to spheres being the simplest and most efficient form for a long time now. When talking with my kids and others, that simple observation is a great point to expand upon into other areas.

Not once have I considered that point myself with regard to plate tectonics
The video has given me a whole new line of investigation.

Cool vid frog.

When he says "they" to whom is he referring, exactly?

G'day Frog.

Thanks for posting the link mate.

Kust finished watching the doco. Lloyd Pye draws a long bow on a fair bit of information and supports some of his hypothesis from Sitchin. Apart from that, there was some good stuff in it.

@ Dubs - there's an interesting youtube clip I cam across years ago that you might find interesting ...

@Dub, Agreed there are a few things in his presentation which make you think.

@AbO, I'm not sure exactly which 'they' you're referring to, I think he uses it in a few contexts from memory the established science, media fields and the establishment generally, plus the Sumerians and the Anunnaki. Could you give a time stamp for the part you're interested in?

@Iaaia, There is quite a bit of cross over in a few areas of research some stuff is coming to light in South Africa since Sitchin's death.

Here are some other interesting presentations with info which crosses over some of the information presented by Lloyd Pye.

Sitchin 2012 presentation.

Michael Tellinger Coast to Coast interview about African Ancient Ruins

2007 Lecture by Jason Martell

Towards the end of the vid he refers to "they" as if the annunaki are still here or perhaps at least have representatives here? I just wondered if he expanded on that in other vids at all.

Ab Origine wrote:
Without getting to embroiled in the dooms day 2012 thing I think it ties into the planet X (Nuburu), which is thought to be in an large elliptical orbit and is part of our solar system. Some of the other vids I liked to particularly Sitchin's work discuss Nuburu in some more detail. So 'they' will be returning at some point, although no one seems to be clear on how to predict the exact time the next encounter will be. If you get more into this subject there are also people who think that there are still members of the Anunnaki still here. This line of thought is probably where Ickes reptilian angle stems from. Other people seem to give the impression that there maybe other groups/factions here who were/are in competition with the Anunnaki. I think you will get a better idea after watching the other videos and listening to the audio linked above.

To me there seems to be quite a bit of information which is credible, which also appears to be supported by tangible evidence like the giant monoliths around the world. Logic also tends to support some of the ideas presented especially the large objects which can only be viewed from an aerial perspective possibly for navigational purposes. The fact that the Sumerian history is obscured from mainstream teachings also seems strange to me. The fact that many of the areas which are home to some of these amazing archeological features are in places like Iran and Iraq also seems curious, especially when you look at modern politics and wars in the region.

Sitchin's translations seem to explain the original source for many stories in the Religious text. The symbols used by other cultures such as the winged disk also seem to originate from the Sumerian culture (Mesopotamia). There are large numbers of the clay tablets and cylinders in various museums which have never been translated. The British museum holds a large quantity of the cylinders which Iraq had tried to have returned without success.

It's an interesting area of historical research and unlike the religious approach it has a large body of evidence supporting much of what is being proposed. For me personally it seems far more realistic than religious teachings and the application of blind faith. It's not hard to see where the foundations of religion comes from based on this information.

All you can really do is get into the subject and see what elements of the information resonate with you. There are plenty of people out there who try to debunk the work of the people in the presentations in this thread, which you may also want to consider.

Michael Tellinger Adams Calendar ancient structures in Africa.

I've always myself believed in the interventionist model.
I don't care if people laugh at me, they don't even realise their own beliefs are merely someone elses beliefs or passed on to them deliberately for whatever reason.

For starters this idea that some amazing super being made everything in a week is and the earth is 4000 yrs old far far farrr more unbelievable than aliens and this idea that nature did everything doesn't fit with the data.

Its perhaps possible that nature brought about life by pure accident somewhere in the universe but not on Earth imho.

The interventionist theory is actually the most scientific one!

Has anyone ever postulated on this?

A planet with the elliptical orbit of Nibiru would be spending a millenia or two in pretty deep space where it received very low levels of sunlight. Then as it reached perehelion it would be getting increasingly large amounts of solar energy.

So it would seem highly improbable that a planet with such a vastly and regularly varying climate could spawn and maintain a species that resembled the hominids of Earth so closely that a genetic combination was possible would it not?

dubmeup wrote:
G'day Dubmeup.

That's one of the logical inconsistencies with the whole Nibiru theory. There's also no explanation as to why Nibiru has not been 'caught' in the gravitational pull of the sun when it apparently comes closer to it in its orbit. After all, the sun apparently makes up 99.6% of the mass of the solar system and holds all of the other planets in its gravitational field ... yet not Nibiru.

In regards to the Sitchin material ... www.sitchiniswrong.com/

A lot of the information is presented to fit an already theorised position. In other words, a position is held as true and then information is presented in an attempt to validate the position that is already held. It's a case of putting the cart before the horse.

dubmeup wrote:
Yeah, I'm not sold on the Niburu aspect dubs. Although I do think there is much to be said for the intervention side of things...a whole lot more than the alternatives, anyway. I don't doubt that there could have been a collision at some point, which for some reason makes me link to dinosaurs...I don't even know why, really. Just a hunch.

I struggle with the gold element too, tbh. I'd have thought, a species capable of genetic manipulation and space travel would've mastered metallurgy to the degree that they didn't necessarily have to go "hunting" for it. So, if "they" were here, or indeed still are, I doubt it has anything to do with natural resources, tbh.

I'm looking for any reference he makes to the dinosaurs now actually, as this is an element to our story I've never really been able to make sense of.

I'm not sure how I feel about Sitchin. Probably a bit like IAAIA mentions above. Certainly, that has turned me off his stuff in the past.

G'day Ab Origine.

There are a whole lot of theories proposed for the reason behind the mining of the gold ... none of which I have seen with any verifiable evidence, and some simply crackpot ideas.

You'd think that a species that could genetically engineer a new/hybrid species would have the technology to mine in a more proficient manner than creating a slave race to do it for them. Why they even bother coming to earth is another conundrum, after all, the minerals found on this planet are found elsewhere ...

433 Eros, the asteroid NASA investigated contains more gold than ever extracted on Earth. The total amount of gold on Earth is calculated at $3,000,000,000,000 and this is excluding all the stuff held in private collections and any fabled Aztec lost city of gold. However, I think there's enough economic incentive in space if we actually put a little money in to begin with.

If you're wondering just how much 3 trillion dollars is, well that's like the entire cost of the Iraq War there in one rock. Hell, you could buy Alaska and still have like 2.5 trillion to spare.

This is the ridiculousness of the arguments against advancing space exploration and technology, because there's more gold in one rock than in the entire world. That's not to mention, there's predicted to be asteroids containing mostly platinum and even more precious metals. For an asteroid of similar size to 433 Eros containing only 10% of its mass as a rare-precious metal like platinum, well that's when you get the capability to buy out the entire planet.

So I call 100% bullshit on people claiming there's no economic incentive in space exploration. There's more precious metals than anyone has ever dreamed of, there just needs to be a little spending to get it. Once companies like Virgin and all the other ones trying for space flight and then lunar orbits, it isn't going to be long before one of them figures out they can get to a rock like Eros and mine the hell out of it.

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=358351

... and would be a LOT easier to get (for a space traveling species) than having to mine the surface of this planet to get them.

I too think that intervention is very plausible. I don't buy the Nibiru Annunaki explanation though. It just seems highly improbable.
That said, I'm not gonna chuck the baby out with the bathwater.

Thanks IAAIA...this is the main reason for my alarm bells.

I like his genetic stuff though.

Was freaking my mate out with this yesterday, as he has this thing about people with cat-heads. Have you all seen the father christmas pic where someone has photoshopped a cat's head onto a father christmas? He HATES this...

I told him that I suspect we were all seeded by a race of cat-headed giants.

Gullible...

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
There's already a consortium formed with the aim of mining asteroids in the not so distant future.

dubmeup wrote:
G'day Dubmeup.

Intervention is a possibility, though much of what is proposed appears to me highly improbable. Personally, I'd like a bit more confirmatory information presented than what I've read/watched on the subject before I'd be wiling to rate it as highly probable.

Ab Origine wrote:
G'day Ab Origine.

You're welcome mate.

You could introduce your mate to this (from the Nibiru Council no less) ...



The Felines
(the Lion People)

Parent Race of the Humans

www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/felines.html

dubmeup wrote:
Agreed.

dubmeup wrote:
You're right Dub. That's goal of planetary resources. For the immediate future they want to focus on near-Earth orbit asteroids and comets. As they perfect the techniques, they want to branch out to the asteroid belt, and then to the Kuiper belt. In my opinion, any species that wants to travel beyond the confines of their solar system by technological means, they would only achieve it by mining asteroid belts and dead planetoids. They'd save the planets for terrestrial habitation, possibly food cultivation, etc. Those that tried to do this by strip mining their planets, probably became their own undoing.

As far as Stitchin goes, I haven't been too keen on his ideas and translations. The idea of coming to a distant planet on the rim of a galaxy for gold is absurd all on it's own. Bioengineering a humanoid slave race to mine that gold is just completely batty. If you're a species capable of traveling vast distances across space, time, and dimensions, mineral and ore harvesting is of little concern. That would have been solved a long time ago. Further more, if there were an emergency and they needed ore to repair their craft, they wouldn't bother bioengineering a slave mining species. Pye's argument is that the genetic defects amongst our species show proof of us being a bioengineered slave species. We may have been bioengineered or altered, but not a slave species. Biological creatures here need food, water, and sleep. That would cut back dramatically on productivity. It would make sense instead to utilize robotics for mining needs. They don't need to sleep, eat, or require water.