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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 11 Jan 2013 10:23 #1

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G. Edward Griffin explains the deliberately fake two party system and its implications as well as its relationship with the CFR, Council on Foreign Relations. www.gedwardgriffin.com/

I dont know anything about Griffin, anyone have any thoughts on him?

Heres the vid...



Thoughts on using this to open a few eyes?
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 11 Jan 2013 10:39 #2

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A bit of a nutjob at times, better to watch than AJ I suppose though lol :)
His cancer thing and the noahs ark stuff is a joke though.
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 11 Jan 2013 11:12 #3

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andyh wrote:
A bit of a nutjob at times, better to watch than AJ I suppose though lol :)
His cancer thing and the noahs ark stuff is a joke though.

yeah thats why i asked, to see if anyone has seen any fruityness. :chuckle: I must look into the ark thing, but it already sounds a bit :facepalm:

this is AJ's version for those who aint seen it...

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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 11 Jan 2013 11:33 #4

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The ark thing is that he pushes a tourist site with some rocks that look like the shape of a boat on the ground as being the original one etc.

Its a few miles south west of mt ararat iirc.

I can't see how anything made of wood could last that long above ground myself.
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 11 Jan 2013 11:50 #5

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ah ok, its got a bit on his wiki page...
Noah's ark

Also during this time, Griffin wrote and narrated the 1992 documentary The Discovery of Noah's Ark, based on U.S. Merchant Marine officer David Fasold's 1988 book, The Ark of Noah.[45] Griffin's film said that the original Noah's ark continued to exist in fossil form at the Durupınar site, about 17 miles (27 km) from Mount Ararat in Turkey, based on photographic, radar, and metal detector evidence.

Griffin also narrated that towns in the area had names that resembled terms from the Biblical story of the flood. He presented a viewpoint that the flood might have been the action of massive tides caused by a gravitational interaction between Earth and a large celestial body coming close to it.[8]

Popular Mechanics stated Fasold had described his research as "radar imagery ... so clear that Fasold could count the floorboards between the walls";[46] Griffin has continued to promote this view, as did Fasold's co-researcher Ron Wyatt and Wyatt Archeological Research.[47]

Creationists Andrew Snelling and John D. Morris prefer a near-Ararat site; Snelling supports geologist Tom Fenner's view that "a great deal of effort was put into repeating the radar measurements acquired in 1986 by Wyatt and Fasold ... After numerous attempts over a period of one and a half days [Geophysical Survey Systems] were unable to duplicate their radar records in any way."[48][49]

Fasold himself revisited the site evidence with geologists Ian Plimer and Lorence Collins and came to doubt his initial position, saying, "I think we have found what the ancients said was the Ark, but this structure is not Noah's Ark."[50][51][52]

Health advocacy

In 1974, Griffin wrote and published the book World Without Cancer,[16][17] and released it as a documentary video; its second edition appeared in 1997, and it was translated into Afrikaans, 1988, and German, 2005.

In the book and the video, Griffin asserts that cancer is a metabolic disease facilitated by the insufficient dietary consumption of amygdalin, a view which has been rejected by the medical community.

He contends that "eliminating cancer through a nondrug therapy has not been accepted because of the hidden economic and power agendas of those who dominate the medical establishment"[18] and he wrote, "at the very top of the world's economic and political pyramid of power there is a grouping of financial, political, and industrial interests that, by the very nature of their goals, are the natural enemies of the nutritional approaches to health".[19]

Griffin also advocates the use of Laetrile, a semi-synthetic derivative of amygdalin as a treatment for cancer, often referencing the work of Dean Burk to support the use of Laetrile.[20] Since the 1970s, the use of Laetrile to treat cancer has been described in the scientific literature as a canonical example of quackery and has never been shown to be effective in the treatment or prevention of cancer.[3][4][21]

The author of a critical review of World Without Cancer asserts that Griffin "accepts the 'conspiracy' theory ... that policy-makers in the medical, pharmaceutical, research and fund-raising organizations deliberately or unconsciously strive not to prevent or cure cancer in order to perpetuate their functions". The reviewer concludes that although World Without Cancer "is an emotional plea for the unrestricted use of the Laetrile as an anti-tumor agent, the scientific evidence to justify such a policy does not appear within it".[22]

Griffin's websites refer visitors to doctors, clinics, and hospitals with alternative cancer treatments,[23] including sellers of Laetrile.[16][24] He does not sell Laetrile himself.[16

Griffin founded The Cancer Cure Foundation "in December of 1976 as a non-profit organization dedicated to research and education in alternative cancer therapies".[25] The foundation expanded its mission in March, 2002 to include disseminating information about other medical conditions, and it changed its name to The Cure Research Foundation. During the 1980s, Griffin returned to producing films about terrorism, subversion, and Communism.

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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 12 Jan 2013 00:03 #6

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How about that one? :)
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 12 Jan 2013 03:50 #7

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andyh wrote:
The ark thing is that he pushes a tourist site with some rocks that look like the shape of a boat on the ground as being the original one etc.

Its a few miles south west of mt ararat iirc.

I can't see how anything made of wood could last that long above ground myself.

There were ancient wooden boats of this size before

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_ship

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/ancient-chinese-explorers.html
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 12 Jan 2013 11:49 #8

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andyh wrote:
The ark thing is that he pushes a tourist site with some rocks that look like the shape of a boat on the ground as being the original one etc.

Its a few miles south west of mt ararat iirc.

I can't see how anything made of wood could last that long above ground myself.

There were ancient wooden boats of this size before

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_ship

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/ancient-chinese-explorers.html

The one at the tourist sites not 440 foot long so it kinda puts the rocks in a boat shape theory to bed.
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 12 Jan 2013 20:18 #9

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andyh wrote:
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andyh wrote:
The ark thing is that he pushes a tourist site with some rocks that look like the shape of a boat on the ground as being the original one etc.

Its a few miles south west of mt ararat iirc.

I can't see how anything made of wood could last that long above ground myself.

There were ancient wooden boats of this size before

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_ship

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/ancient-chinese-explorers.html

The one at the tourist sites not 440 foot long so it kinda puts the rocks in a boat shape theory to bed.

My idea of an Ark would be a water tight mountain top, like the remains in Turkey. Common scence to all peoples around the planet who had suffered a tsunami, would automatically make such places immediately afterwards, they have been found around the globe, as have the wallpapers set in stone.

Kharsag etc, they would be kept serviced until the smaller area aloft was cramped or as climate changed or they forgot the immediate threat, and moved back to lower more fertile land like the podsol etc.
Too much money making myth going onand not enough simple observations.
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 13 Jan 2013 18:02 #10

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Griffin is a member of thr John Birch society.

Wingnuts often like to claim that they are beyond the right-left paradigm.

Then they tell you who is a commie.
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 16 Jan 2013 04:11 #11

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Words mean different things to different people. Some people call themselves one thing but are often not that.

Money is why the two party system is the way it is. Money and capitalism itself is the control factor.

Communism and fascism are not the same. To just state that they are while wearing a white beard does not make it so.
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G. Edward Griffin on the Two Party System - The Left Right Paradigm 16 Jan 2013 22:58 #12

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Words mean different things to different people. Some people call themselves one thing but are often not that.

Money is why the two party system is the way it is. Money and capitalism itself is the control factor.

Communism and fascism are not the same. To just state that they are while wearing a white beard does not make it so.

What was it that MAR said.
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