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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 15:10 #21

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I hear what you're saying andy and appreciate that you might feel plagued by them. Whatever you do, you won't get the situation in balance over night if it's as bad as you say. If you go my route, you'll be at it for quite a while. They will keep appearing as if by magic. Eventually though you really can get the wildlife balance to take over the hard work and you'll have to do less and less hunting.
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 15:17 #22

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Yeah I'd much rather have a way to repel them from the garden but its a bloody big garden and its near a river and wildlife along with a farmers field and crops out back...

I don't see any way round it other than a bit of an initial cull (lol....) :hide:
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 16:08 #23

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you could probably pick up 500 in a week mate! put em on t'other side of the river or summat.
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 16:38 #24

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Slugs get inside my house somehow. Sliding up the kitchen wall, nice. :roll:

Right Mr Boss Man...I've have repeatedly tried to advise you re holes in your house. If you have things like slugs and mice YOU HAVE HOLES. I'm getting quite agitated as I've no fizzy pop, so if you're not careful, I'll be round there to start to filling your holes, and believe me when I tell you, that won't be as pleasurable as it sounds.

And I'm not even being dirty, for once. :spank:
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 19:50 #25

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Where we used to live there was so many slugs it was unbearable, I never killed any though (couldn't bring myself to do that) just put them outside instead. I saw slugs giving birth on top of kitchen worktops it was so bad :O The place was damp as hell which didn't help, my bedroom walls were almost black because of the dampness.
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 20:25 #26

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Where we used to live there was so many slugs it was unbearable, I never killed any though (couldn't bring myself to do that) just put them outside instead. I saw slugs giving birth on top of kitchen worktops it was so bad :O The place was damp as hell which didn't help, my bedroom walls were almost black because of the dampness.

Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:28 #27

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K-Bone wrote:
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Where we used to live there was so many slugs it was unbearable, I never killed any though (couldn't bring myself to do that) just put them outside instead. I saw slugs giving birth on top of kitchen worktops it was so bad :O The place was damp as hell which didn't help, my bedroom walls were almost black because of the dampness.

Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:

It was pretty disgusting but i also found it quite fascinating :emb: I know i'm probably in the minority here but i actually think some insects are quite beautiful :hide: I know slugs in particular are not insects but i think they are weirdly fascinating like insects can be.
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:30 #28

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Silverwand wrote:
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Where we used to live there was so many slugs it was unbearable, I never killed any though (couldn't bring myself to do that) just put them outside instead. I saw slugs giving birth on top of kitchen worktops it was so bad :O The place was damp as hell which didn't help, my bedroom walls were almost black because of the dampness.

Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:

It was pretty disgusting but i also found it quite fascinating :emb: I know i'm probably in the minority here but i actually think some insects are quite beautiful :hide: I know slugs in particular are not insects but i think they are weirdly fascinating like insects can be.

When is a slug not a snail? This isn't a joke...I'm genuinely interested.
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:33 #29

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Ab Origine wrote:
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Where we used to live there was so many slugs it was unbearable, I never killed any though (couldn't bring myself to do that) just put them outside instead. I saw slugs giving birth on top of kitchen worktops it was so bad :O The place was damp as hell which didn't help, my bedroom walls were almost black because of the dampness.

Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:

It was pretty disgusting but i also found it quite fascinating :emb: I know i'm probably in the minority here but i actually think some insects are quite beautiful :hide: I know slugs in particular are not insects but i think they are weirdly fascinating like insects can be.

When is a slug not a snail? This isn't a joke...I'm genuinely interested.

When it doesn't have a shell...I think :emb: :chuckle:
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:35 #30

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Ab Origine wrote:
Silverwand wrote:
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Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:

It was pretty disgusting but i also found it quite fascinating :emb: I know i'm probably in the minority here but i actually think some insects are quite beautiful :hide: I know slugs in particular are not insects but i think they are weirdly fascinating like insects can be.

When is a slug not a snail? This isn't a joke...I'm genuinely interested.

I don't know :think: I'd like to know that also, i've always thought a snail was just a slug with a shell, i'm probably wrong though :D
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:36 #31

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Silverwand wrote:
Ab Origine wrote:
Silverwand wrote:
K-Bone wrote:

Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:

It was pretty disgusting but i also found it quite fascinating :emb: I know i'm probably in the minority here but i actually think some insects are quite beautiful :hide: I know slugs in particular are not insects but i think they are weirdly fascinating like insects can be.

When is a slug not a snail? This isn't a joke...I'm genuinely interested.

I don't know :think: I'd like to know that also, i've always thought a snail was just a slug with a shell, i'm probably wrong though :D

What, so like a snail is kind of a gypsy/traveller slug, then?
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:36 #32

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you could probably pick up 500 in a week mate! put em on t'other side of the river or summat.

I can just see myself making midnight trips in the moonlight with shovel fulls of slugs across to the other side of the river, lol
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Re: Things that come out at night... 18 Jun 2012 23:38 #33

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What, so like a snail is kind of a gypsy/traveller slug, then?

:rofl: that's a brilliant way of describing it :cool: :D
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Re: Things that come out at night... 19 Jun 2012 02:07 #34

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K-Bone wrote:
Silverwand wrote:
Where we used to live there was so many slugs it was unbearable, I never killed any though (couldn't bring myself to do that) just put them outside instead. I saw slugs giving birth on top of kitchen worktops it was so bad :O The place was damp as hell which didn't help, my bedroom walls were almost black because of the dampness.

Wow. I can't think of anything more slimy & repulsive than slug birth! :barfonu:

I can. :D

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Re: Things that come out at night... 19 Jun 2012 02:36 #35

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Being slightly insomniac at the mo, I just watched that second vid, the old farmer's shed one.
I feel like sticking the woman between two boards and jumping up an down on her......Not my idea about how to approach a garden.
Big thumbs down to her methods and jovial take on slug murder. Also the old egg shell thing. I've tried it, more than once. It's never worked for me and if you have any kind of sized plot, that's a heck of a lot of shells for pretty much no effect on slugs.
Others may disagree but I think it's a bit of a myth from what I've seen.

A recurring theme of my growing related posts some may notice, is that I promote working with nature not against it. Treat the whole as much as is possible and in the long run you'll be glad you did. It takes far more effort in the beginning than the quick fix approach but once the balance is set, your work gets easier and the rewards for all get greater.
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Re: Things that come out at night... 19 Jun 2012 02:38 #36

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andyh wrote:
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you could probably pick up 500 in a week mate! put em on t'other side of the river or summat.

I can just see myself making midnight trips in the moonlight with shovel fulls of slugs across to the other side of the river, lol

If you want to do it at night andy, a few slugs of whiskey should see you right :D

You don't need to make the relocation trek every day. You can use a bucket or summat and put them in there. Add a few choice leaves and or veg trimmings, keep it in the shade and they''ll be fine for a couple of days. You do need to be collecting them as much as you can in the early stages though when you first come to an infested plot. When we moved to our last place I was at it about 4 times a day haha. Took a few weeks too :)
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Re: Things that come out at night... 24 Jun 2012 12:16 #37

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Beneficial Nematodes are the way to go. Having a huge plot with a lot of veg growing we have obvisouly had some problems with slugs, even in one of the smaller polly tunnels. Slugs desimated about 60 chilli seedlings a few months back so I declared war on them as chillis are one of my main cash crops. I bought nematodes online which covered about half an acre and within a week, no more slugs. As the nematodes were a bity pricey I looked at how to breed them and sure enough its actually quite easy:

www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/gardeninge...-starts-at-home.html
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Re: Things that come out at night... 24 Jun 2012 12:41 #38

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Beneficial Nematodes are the way to go. Having a huge plot with a lot of veg growing we have obvisouly had some problems with slugs, even in one of the smaller polly tunnels. Slugs desimated about 60 chilli seedlings a few months back so I declared war on them as chillis are one of my main cash crops. I bought nematodes online which covered about half an acre and within a week, no more slugs. As the nematodes were a bity pricey I looked at how to breed them and sure enough its actually quite easy:

www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/gardeninge...-starts-at-home.html

Good 1st post, welcome to the forum Mondo! :)
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Re: Things that come out at night... 24 Jun 2012 14:24 #39

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Hi M, and welcome.

Please could you tell us what the longevity of the nematodes are and how you bred them.

Thanks in advance.
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Beneficial Nematodes are the way to go. Having a huge plot with a lot of veg growing we have obvisouly had some problems with slugs, even in one of the smaller polly tunnels. Slugs desimated about 60 chilli seedlings a few months back so I declared war on them as chillis are one of my main cash crops. I bought nematodes online which covered about half an acre and within a week, no more slugs. As the nematodes were a bity pricey I looked at how to breed them and sure enough its actually quite easy:

www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/gardeninge...-starts-at-home.html
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Re: Things that come out at night... 24 Jun 2012 16:28 #40

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Beneficial Nematodes are the way to go. Having a huge plot with a lot of veg growing we have obvisouly had some problems with slugs, even in one of the smaller polly tunnels. Slugs desimated about 60 chilli seedlings a few months back so I declared war on them as chillis are one of my main cash crops. I bought nematodes online which covered about half an acre and within a week, no more slugs. As the nematodes were a bity pricey I looked at how to breed them and sure enough its actually quite easy:

www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/gardeninge...-starts-at-home.html

Good 1st post, welcome to the forum Mondo! :)
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