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Self-sufficiency is the state of not requiring any aid, support, or interaction, for survival; it is therefore a type of personal or collective autonomy. The term self-sufficiency is usually applied to varieties of sustainable living in which nothing is consumed outside of what is produced by the self-sufficient individuals. Examples of attempts at self-sufficiency include simple living, homesteading, off-the-grid, survivalism, DIY ethic and the back-to-the-land movement. Practices that enable or aid self-sufficiency include autonomous building, permaculture, sustainable agriculture, and renewable energy. The term is also applied to limited forms of self-sufficiency, for example growing one's own food or becoming economically independent of state subsidies. Read more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sufficiency

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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:19 #241

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knobmeup wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
.when the SHTF where does all the infrastructure go ?
Buildings?
Items in Buildings
Cars?
Look in your home now, knifes forks, everything...

Will the face of the earth be scoured clean :rofl: :coffee:
No, but you're not getting the point. This isn't necessarily about a shtf event anyway. The way we get our drinking water today for example. Do you think that process, that infrastructure, is a sustainable way of doing it? Either post shtf or as a part of a conscious paradigm shift?
Cos I fucking don't :chuckle:

Edit. Btw my drinking water already comes from a bore hole 100 yards away. My surplus body fluids already go through a reed bed and off into the stream ;) Though I actually think composting them would be a better option. For larger families/communities there is also methane to be had :)

Oh im not getting the point... :conf: :D
OH well, the end of the day less competition is better :ar:
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:21 #242

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angelchemuel wrote:
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lonewolf wrote:
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I always piss my self laughting when the SHTF subject comes up which includes survival techniques, several questions you need to ask yourself about survival blah blah blah.

How are you going to end up in a survival situation that requires you to "live off the land", build your own shelters, make your own fires and locate your own food , whilst defending yourself ?
Plane crash in remote region, if you survive without serious injury, then good luck. Chances of that happening :iitm:

UK :killinme:

so-another unbeliever! so IGNORE anything that is said on the subject. Some people are interested, you obviously aren't.

Well your flapping about worrying about your water tell my why?
Just fucking boil it...if you cant start a fire your in the shit anyway :coffee:
I unlike you I have had top notch survival training, had to run for my life and survive in hostile environments. :smokn:

Answer this where will you need your survival techniques or when in the UK ?

Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

Seems a lot of people have become survival experts thanks to Bear and all the other programmes.

Survival is a state of mind, not sure if they tell you that

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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:25 #243

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I dunno if Bear mentions it.....I got it from Ray Mears :hahano:
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:25 #244

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
I always piss my self laughting when the SHTF subject comes up which includes survival techniques, several questions you need to ask yourself about survival blah blah blah.

How are you going to end up in a survival situation that requires you to "live off the land", build your own shelters, make your own fires and locate your own food , whilst defending yourself ?
Plane crash in remote region, if you survive without serious injury, then good luck. Chances of that happening :iitm:

UK :killinme:

so-another unbeliever! so IGNORE anything that is said on the subject. Some people are interested, you obviously aren't.

Well your flapping about worrying about your water tell my why?
Just fucking boil it...if you cant start a fire your in the shit anyway :coffee:
I unlike you I have had top notch survival training, had to run for my life and survive in hostile environments. :smokn:

Answer this where will you need your survival techniques or when in the UK ?

Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

Seems a lot of people have become survival experts thanks to Bear and all the other programmes.

Survival is a state of mind, not sure if they tell you that

:band:

My state of mind...although I'm sure many on here would question it after my foray last night.....is perfectly honed and tuned into survival mode.....is yours? :)
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I think this thread is going a bit off topic, can we get back to the subject please. ? I'm taking the dog out so i'll speak to you all in about an hour, think what you want to talk about survival and prepping in that time heh?
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:28 #246

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angelchemuel wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
I always piss my self laughting when the SHTF subject comes up which includes survival techniques, several questions you need to ask yourself about survival blah blah blah.

How are you going to end up in a survival situation that requires you to "live off the land", build your own shelters, make your own fires and locate your own food , whilst defending yourself ?
Plane crash in remote region, if you survive without serious injury, then good luck. Chances of that happening :iitm:

UK :killinme:

so-another unbeliever! so IGNORE anything that is said on the subject. Some people are interested, you obviously aren't.

Well your flapping about worrying about your water tell my why?
Just fucking boil it...if you cant start a fire your in the shit anyway :coffee:
I unlike you I have had top notch survival training, had to run for my life and survive in hostile environments. :smokn:

Answer this where will you need your survival techniques or when in the UK ?

Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

Seems a lot of people have become survival experts thanks to Bear and all the other programmes.

Survival is a state of mind, not sure if they tell you that

:band:

My state of mind...although I'm sure many on here would question it after my foray last night.....is perfectly honed and tuned into survival mode.....is yours? :)
:jane:

Go on then ...tell me your capability.. when you were pushed to the limits.
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:30 #247

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
OH well, the end of the day less competition is better :ar:

But how few is too few when it comes to repopulation? We don't want everyone having your recessive genes!
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:34 #248

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I think this thread is going a bit off topic, can we get back to the subject please. ?
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Welcome to the SZ :D
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 12:42 #249

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angelchemuel wrote:
Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

On the naughty step? :think:

I know when I am being baited, Jane.

Your rainbow sig is off-colour. It's reminding me off another poster who used to sign off 'love and light'.
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mikey mikey wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

On the naughty step? :think:

I know when I am being baited, Jane.

Your rainbow sig is off-colour. It's reminding me off another poster who used to sign off 'love and light'.

My rainbow sig is not off colour...you're just not getting any off me.
Secondly I am not baiting you for anything......I just don't have an 'ignore' button :)
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 13:11 #251

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angelchemuel wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
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Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

On the naughty step? :think:

I know when I am being baited, Jane.

Your rainbow sig is off-colour. It's reminding me off another poster who used to sign off 'love and light'.
My rainbow sig is not off colour...you're just not getting any off me.
Secondly I am not baiting you for anything......I just don't have an 'ignore' button :)
If you truly wish to ignore me, which I would welcome TBH, then may I suggest that you stop insulting and using my user name?

I am currently considering just how to respond to your aggression and consulting with people that my response might effect.

It would be best for all concerned, if we just stopped any communication.
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 13:22 #252

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mikey mikey wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
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Another fucking dork....go join Mikey on the naughty step you wombat! :bat:

On the naughty step? :think:

I know when I am being baited, Jane.

Your rainbow sig is off-colour. It's reminding me off another poster who used to sign off 'love and light'.

My rainbow sig is not off colour...you're just not getting any off me.
Secondly I am not baiting you for anything......I just don't have an 'ignore' button :)
If you truly wish to ignore me, which I would welcome TBH, then may I suggest that you stop insulting and using my user name?

I am currently considering just how to respond to your aggression and consulting with people that my response might effect.

It would be best for all concerned, if we just stopped any communication.

At least I don't hide behind my user name....and you address me by my real name...which I have no problem with.
But that's OK...Trev it is then.... :D
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 13:42 #253

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lonewolf wrote:
I think this thread is going a bit off topic, can we get back to the subject please. ? I'm taking the dog out so i'll speak to you all in about an hour, think what you want to talk about survival and prepping in that time heh?

Can we start a separate thread on the demography issue please?

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can we please get back on topic? or should I just not bother-children???
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 14:27 #255

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I don't hide behind my username. That is quite absurd, since I have told everyone by PM my name. I finish every private message with it.

I don't think, however, you should take it upon yourself to reveal private information about members without consulting hem first. I am unaffected by your actions, but others may not feel that way.

As I said, I am considering how to react to your change in behaviour, Jane. Or is your real name angelchemuel?
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If you want clean filtered water then its underground and the easiest way to get at it is in caves or potholes.
I certainly wouldn't be arsed using so called filters on standing pond water, again that just backs up the common sense mentioned previously and state of mind that I hate to admit but merc did get right but id expect him to.
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 14:32 #257

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lonewolf wrote:
can we please get back on topic? or should I just not bother-children???

Well you may notice I attempted to do so at least three times but Jane seems to want to pursue some other issue that I am somehow related too.

I am guilty, however, of responding to posts that seek to misrepresent me.

It seems that not only may one criticise elements of the survivalist movement, one must also remain silent while others insult and lie about oneself.

Anyway, :carryon:

I will respond appropriately in time :knit:
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Anyway, I think I've covered the basics, enough for a short term event anyway, if anyone wants to take it further let me know.
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emergency preparedness UK 29 Dec 2013 15:39 #259

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mikey mikey wrote:
I don't hide behind my username. That is quite absurd, since I have told everyone by PM my name. I finish every private message with it.

I don't think, however, you should take it upon yourself to reveal private information about members without consulting hem first. I am unaffected by your actions, but others may not feel that way.

As I said, I am considering how to react to your change in behaviour, Jane. Or is your real name angelchemuel?

If I were you I would hide behind your username.
Them PMs you used to send me and sign off with "you cunt" I would suggest a deed poll name change :coffee:
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Were they around the time you threatened me with violence or the time you wished I was dead,

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Wassa madda? Did WUB rub your nose in it? :spank:

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