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First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 17:16 #1

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www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-...-toilet-8050586.html
First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet

The world's richest man has set himself a new challenge – to improve sanitation for the poor
Peter Popham

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More than 230 years after a Scottish watchmaker called Alexander Cummings patented the flush toilet, Bill Gates yesterday handed $100,000 to a team from the California Institute of Technology who believe their invention goes one better.

Flush toilets, Gates wrote in a recent blog, "are irrelevant, impractical and impossible for 40 per cent of the global population, because they often don't have access to water, sewers, electricity and sewage treatment systems".

A toilet in the developing world is often no more than a hole in the ground, otherwise known as a pit latrine. When there is no practical way of emptying it, its users must dig another, or defecate outdoors.

The world's richest man, who is also the planet's most generous philanthropist, has set inventors the challenge of developing a lavatory that will work in the most deprived and impoverished environments. To qualify, the prototypes must operate without running water, electricity or a septic system; must not discharge pollutants; and cost no more than five US cents a day to run. If they also provide a bonus in energy or other resources, even better.

The challenge has ignited a volcano of ingenuity. Caltech's winning entry is based on a solar-powered electrochemical reactor which breaks down faeces and urine into hydrogen – which in turn becomes a back-up source of energy.

Second prize went to Loughborough University's effort, in which the waste is turned into biological charcoal which when burned produces the energy to power the system. It also recovers water and salts from the faeces and urine.

Mr Gates was confronted with the way the other half lives on a visit to Durban in South Africa in 2009 when he learned all about the pit latrine, and its variant the VIP latrine – "Ventilated Improved Pit Latrine" – which has an airpipe to carry away the fumes.

The new funding announced yesterday brought his commitment to improving water, sanitation and hygiene issues to $370m. His reason for making this huge investment is simple: saving millions of lives. Pit latrines and outdoor defecation are not only offensive to the eyes, nose and dignity of the users but a dire threat to their health.

"Worldwide," Mr Gates claims, "there are 2.5 billion people without access to safe sanitation. They include 1 billion people who defecate in the open, and more than 1 billion others who must use pit latrines. Beyond a question of human dignity, this lack of access also endangers people's lives, creates an economic and health burden for poor communities, and hurts the environment." Diarrhoeal diseases, he said, killed more than 1.5 million children every year.

The prototype toilets were presented at the Reinvent the Toilet Fair in Seattle this week, and tested using many gallons of "fake poop" made from soybeans and rice. If some of the entries looked too dainty and complex to survive long in a shanty town, others took a more down-to-earth approach, including one from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine which uses black soldier fly larvae to digest the waste, turning it into animal feed.

Gates may be aiming his putative new loo at the Developing World, but he is far too canny not to see its potential for the west. "In an era where water is becoming increasingly precious," he says, "many of these innovations will not only revolutionise sanitation in the developing world, but also help transform our dependence on traditional flush toilets in wealthy nations."

Flushed with success: The winners

The solar-powered loo

California Institute of Technology won the £64,000 prize for its work on a toilet powered by solar energy. It is designed to break down faeces and urine into hydrogen gas, which can be stored in fuel cells to provide back-up power to use at night or in low-sunlight conditions. Water used to flush the toilet is also recycled.

The fuel-producing lavatory

Second place, and a £38,400 grant, went to the team at UK's Loughborough University, which designed a clever lavatory that transforms human waste into biological charcoal and minerals. These can then be used as fuel or a form of conditioner for soil. It also produces clean water.

The santising WC

The futuristic loo developed by the team at the University of Toronto in Canada, which took the third prize of £25,600, sanitises faeces and urine and is also designed to recover resources and clean, reusable water.
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 17:24 #2

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Wait for it ........

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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 17:33 #3

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Speaking of, feather...I wonder if we'll all have to buy special Gates sanctioned cleaning guff for these gizmos?

And will they need to be replaced every couple of years as they become slower than a stoned snail and are superceded by newer, sleeker, faster models?

Bet governments across the world are knockin' one out over this, all the while keeping one hand free to 'legislate'. :D
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 17:58 #4

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:facepalm:
My toilet is just fine thank you, I enjoy having to haul the 5 gal bucket out back... I do not want a computerized one that will zap me in the ass... (I know, its not really a computerized one, but it is Bill Gates and I don't put it past that man)
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 19:51 #5

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Shit happens,said Gates.. Why don't make a huge pile of steaming stinking profit from it. Is
Bill trying to make himself look like some humanitarian king of shit?

ok, jokes aside, decent toilets for poor people is a great idea. In Russia I have used these pit latrine type things. It's quite disgusting, the smell is unimaginable. Luckily they're smart enough there to build walls around these.

But what the heck is Gates trying to accomplish with this stunt?
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 19:59 #6

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On the road you tend to dig a hole shit in it and then refill the hole. In traveller groups you tend to have a shitting area for this purpose away from the site. I bet if you went back to that ground a year after the travellers moved on you could grow some wicked veg :D
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 20:10 #7

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Hexhammer wrote:

Is Bill trying to make himself look like some humanitarian king of shit?


He wants to be everything to everyone :coffee:
The world’s rich­est man, who is also the planet’s most gen­er­ous phil­an­thropist
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 16 Aug 2012 21:28 #8

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Knock Gates all you want, but this is a good idea. It has other applications as well. Humans will need a way of disposing of waste on distant worlds some day, and these could end out being the base models for that.
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 17 Aug 2012 05:47 #9

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Yes, the idea is excellent, it's very much worth research and all the money Gates can put into it. Amazing thing is that he's ready to invest in stuff like this, not just vaccines or GM crops or some crap like that.
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 17 Aug 2012 06:44 #10

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AbO, the title of this thread has a huge error in it! Bill Gates never reinvented the computer or anything to do with computers. First of Microsoft developed MSDOS in conjunction with IBM, then they borrowed (stole, pirated, copied) concepts and innovations under development at 'Palo Alto Research Center' which was owned by Xerox. Apple actually were ahead of the curve and were already developing a GUI based OS based on the concepts originally being developed at the research center.

Microsoft struggled to catch up with Apple who had employed Xerox staff that had been involved with the PARC OS project. Windows 3.x was a steaming pile of crap which was a collection of scripts running on top of DOS that used dreadful .pif files to manage the applications and their configurations/environment. It was virtually unusable. Apple, Amiga and Atari ST were all doing a much better job than MS in the early days of GUI's. The first semi stable version of windows was win95 although it was far from stable.

MS weren't an innovative company as far as software development goes and in fact they have probably contributed to stifling development with their closed source approach. The only clever thing that Billy Boy did was establish a virtual monopoly of the IBM OS. He realised that hardware was only as good as the software available for it and busied himself setting up contracts with hardware manufactures to supply the Operating Systems shipped with their hardware. MS had virtually achieved total domination with MSDOS although there were other dos based OS's available. They also produced a a basic compiler and later a C/C++ compiler.

IBM had a joint venture going with MS which was known as OS2 which was actually far better than any MS product of the same generation. Unfortunately IBM didn't dedicate or commit enough resources to the development of OS2 for economic and business reasons apparently. Effectively OS2 continued to OS2 Warp and then fizzled out after such a promising start.

Most of the innovations attributed to MS were brought in as MS had an aggressive take over policy of other software houses who were developing leading edge utilities and applications.

Quarterdeck were an innovative company who specialised in memory management called Qemm (which pissed all over the MS mem manager) and they also had a functional multitasking GUI before MS released windows. Digital Research produced a 'concurrent dos' operating system which also allowed multi tasking which was way ahead of MS. Novel purchased 'Concurrent DOS' which was an innovative product back in the day. Netscape was also ahead of the curve in web browser technologies which lead to the famous MS Antitrust case.

MS seems to be reverting back to type with their policies for the release of developer information under Win8 which is impacting on browser developers.

What MS had and still has is an aggressive and dubious marketing policy, supported by a deep pocket born out of a virtual monopoly of the OS market, which was and is enforced by a huge legal team. MS and their business policies have probably resulted in hindering innovation and the development of PC operating systems and applications if the truth were known. There were loads of small independent software houses producing applications most of which were more advanced than the MS offerings. The MS solution to the competition was to bundle their inferior applications with machines shipped with the Windows OS. By the time PC started to become popular in the domestic market MS had started including basic applications as part of the OS as well as bundling other applications like MS Works. This effectively starved sales for much of the competition directly competing with MS products. Most users were not very adventurous or aware of the alternatives and probably couldn't justify spending extra money on applications they already had even if they were substandard. IE would never have established a large user base if it had been offered as a standalone package.
Bill Gates 1998 MS Antitrust Hearing

Microsoft flops in no particular order...

Windows 3.1
Windows ME (what a total pile of shit that was!)
XPS file format which was an attempt to nobble pdf
Silverlight an attack on web based flash
Internet Explorer arguably one of the worst browsers available prior to IE 7, mainly because of security issues plus MS developers ignoring some web standards.
Microsoft Kin a badly thought out mobile phone (WinCE)
Windows CE a cut down OS for pocket devices TPS (Total Pile of Shit)
Zune which was supposed to take on the iPod and other MP3 players (crashed and burned with a 3% market share)
MSN Smart Watch which looked like crap and had email support lol TPS
ActiMates go and research this gem it was truly awful and very creepy!
Microsoft BOB This is their best ever flop which they will probably never manage to exceed. It was a an attempt at making the computer more user friendly it failed miserably and was a laughing stock.
Steve Ballmer the biggest pile of shit to come out of the Microsoft boardroom.

The good stuff that came from MS...
DOS5
Windows 95 and 98
Windows XP
Windows 7
MS Flight Simulator
XBox 360 the only real innovative product I can think of.
Backwards compatibility for existing software!

The only reason they are still in business is because their legal team fought off legal case after legal case and pursue any license or copyright infringements. Lots of cash from their monopoly and underhand business tactics funds their empire. Billions in profit every year seems to make them too big to fail, although I'm not sure how they will adapt to the current trends, which are set to move away from traditional personal computer systems - most of which use LINUX derivatives and android. A presence in cloud OS and applications market is only going to carry them so far. Conventional PC hardware sales seem to be set to decline in the not too distant future. The bulk of the MS OS market will die along with the hardware, as applications become more ubiquitous and users become increasingly dependent on mobile hardware solutions.


1998 MARC BROWN ACTIMATES "ARTHUR" MICROSOFT INTERACTIVE DOLL


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The Truth About Microsoft Documentary part 1


Apple


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Humm I got a bit carried away with that off topic rant. :sorry: :gmc:
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 17 Aug 2012 11:21 #11

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Sorry frog...it was copied from the 'Independent'. :chuckle:
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 17 Aug 2012 11:44 #12

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A guy like gates is being gates,and probably in his mind has the best interest of humanity within his thoughts,toilets and poop is a real issue,and being a guy like gates,he can't help himself from this pursuit. imo
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 18 Aug 2012 03:30 #13

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Sorry frog...it was copied from the 'Independent'. :chuckle:

I guess that's how myths and legends come to pass. :roll:
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Re: First he reinvented computers, now Bill Gates wants to reinvent the toilet 18 Aug 2012 06:36 #14

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I'm not a fan of Bill Gates, but this is a really good idea. In fact, why not introduce something like this everywhere? As long as you don't have to buy his software to operate it, or fanny around installing the updates every time you need a dump, it's a grand idea.
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