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A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 17:31 #1

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Hello fellow forum members.

I would hereby like to formalize a request for the institution of an indoctrin re-education chamber perhaps as a sub forum in general or perhaps as as a part of another sub forum.

Where it is placed is not important, what it's function is will be most important, and potentially highly significant for the entire board and human race in general, it will serve as a compassionate rehabilitation centre for ex Ickeforum members who are going through the heady transition from Fascism to Freedom, it's main objective will be to combat empty sloganism, reactionary opinions and metaphysical or more openly superstitious beliefs of posters who post only empty slogans, reactionary opinions or superstitious and metaphysical beliefs as facts.

So in example, the past candidates for the Re-education chamber would have been Nirvana, he would have been confined to posting in only the reeducation chamber and be forced to undergo rigorous daily or weekly assessment by the brightest and most clinical minds of the sanctumzone, when it was determined his motivations for posting were open, non-sectarian/seperatist, in support of the development of revolutionary consciousness etc he could be granted full posting privileges.

Another candidate would have been Starshine/aka Mick Hucknall, who many members actually wanted to see banned, I propose the re-education chamber would have served as a fantastic opportunity for those being annoyed by Starshine to put her in the dunge...i mean chamber and analyze her motivations for posting, who she/he was, who she/he was working for? Her posting would have been confined to one small chamber, in which everybody could see and engage with her if they chose to, maybe after a week, based maybe on her reaction she'd have been re-accepted into the forum or possibly deleted for eternity?

A simple democratic vote put before the forum with no less than a 48hour time limit for participation would be the sole deciding factor on whether a poster gets sent for re-education.

I currently have 3 nominations who are much in need of some serious re-education and sanitation, well 2 and possibly 1 who maybe just needs a stiff,,, drink.

When I have the forum's feedback if you think this is a good idea i will reveal my 3 nominations for re-education.

Cue debate
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 17:40 #2

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Re-education? Sounds Orwellian :chuckle:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 17:47 #3

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Did you read the entire post or just stop reading at teh bit that mentions re-education make your post and then go back to staring at your bellybutton?

If you did then you are the type of person who requires a lengthy stay in the re-education chamber.. You could call it something else like false ego murder facility or something, I;m open to suggestions. :)
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 17:53 #4

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Yeah I read the whole post :)

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

People will believe what they want to believe and think what they want to think.

Explain your proposition with less words, and more to the point please :D I should really take my headphones off I suppose, so that I might concentrate more on what I'm reading and writing :chuckle:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 18:20 #5

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Guevarista wrote:
Hello fellow forum members.

I would hereby like to formalize a request for the institution of an indoctrin re-education chamber perhaps as a sub forum in general or perhaps as as a part of another sub forum.

Where it is placed is not important, what it's function is will be most important, and potentially highly significant for the entire board and human race in general, it will serve as a compassionate rehabilitation centre for ex Ickeforum members who are going through the heady transition from Fascism to Freedom, it's main objective will be to combat empty sloganism, reactionary opinions and metaphysical or more openly superstitious beliefs of posters who post only empty slogans, reactionary opinions or superstitious and metaphysical beliefs as facts.

So in example, the past candidates for the Re-education chamber would have been Nirvana, he would have been confined to posting in only the reeducation chamber and be forced to undergo rigorous daily or weekly assessment by the brightest and most clinical minds of the sanctumzone, when it was determined his motivations for posting were open, non-sectarian/seperatist, in support of the development of revolutionary consciousness etc he could be granted full posting privileges.

Another candidate would have been Starshine/aka Mick Hucknall, who many members actually wanted to see banned, I propose the re-education chamber would have served as a fantastic opportunity for those being annoyed by Starshine to put her in the dunge...i mean chamber and analyze her motivations for posting, who she/he was, who she/he was working for? Her posting would have been confined to one small chamber, in which everybody could see and engage with her if they chose to, maybe after a week, based maybe on her reaction she'd have been re-accepted into the forum or possibly deleted for eternity?

A simple democratic vote put before the forum with no less than a 48hour time limit for participation would be the sole deciding factor on whether a poster gets sent for re-education.

I currently have 3 nominations who are much in need of some serious re-education and sanitation, well 2 and possibly 1 who maybe just needs a stiff,,, drink.

When I have the forum's feedback if you think this is a good idea i will reveal my 3 nominations for re-education.

Cue debate

:roflha:

... cheers for the laugh Guev :psketti:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 18:24 #6

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Mick Huck­nall :rofl:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 18:26 #7

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Ah so it's a satirical jokey post? :chuckle:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 18:27 #8

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irrepressible wrote:
Yeah I read the whole post :)

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

People will believe what they want to believe and think what they want to think.

Explain your proposition with less words, and more to the point please :D I should really take my headphones off I suppose, so that I might concentrate more on what I'm reading and writing :chuckle:
My whole premise using the horse metaphor is this, you can't lead a horse to water or even force it to drink, but a human is far less stubborn than a horse and far more susceptible to chinese water torture, drip, drip, drip, drip, dirp, drip, dirp, dirp dirp. :bla:
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 18:31 #9

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Happy birthday Guevarista. :thumbup:

That's one of the worst ideas I've ever seen on, or outside of any forum, ever. I'm assuming it's the product of your having downed a few celebratory drinks. :D

If people's opinions can be altered via normal debate, then that's all well and good. But to stick them in a re-education chamber is a ridiculous notion. Nobody's obliged to share the same views as other people, and variety is the spice of life. If we all constantly agreed on everything, it would be mind-numbingly boring. Plus, if we were all on the same page to start with, with the same opinions and interests, how could we hope to stretch each other's minds to help each other develop?

It would hardly be a warm, welcoming experience logging on here, to be forcibly directed to such a facility.

Which are these 'brightest and most clinical minds' of which you speak - the ones suffering from delusions of grandeur you're proposing to do the indoctinating re-educating? Apart from yourself, obviously. :roll:

My vote is no, and behave yourself! :P
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 18:58 #10

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Happy Birthday Mr G. :present: :cake:

I know you like your socialism and all that, but what you're describing is a little bit like a Sanctum Zone Gulag. I like it actually.
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 19:17 #11

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Gilly wrote:
Happy birthday Guevarista. :thumbup:
Thank you Gilly that means alot to me, I hope you are recuperating well from your operation!
Well my list of immediate candidates for re-education has now gone down to two.
That's one of the worst ideas I've ever seen on, or outside of any forum, ever. I'm assuming it's the product of your having downed a few celebratory drinks. :D
I'm hoping Oioioi is going to follow through on his brush with Revolutionary Vanguardism and see the potential in this idea, I have been on other forums where this sort of thing was enacted to combat a trolling menace that stalked every innocent poster on the forum, the troll was contained in a dungeon facility where skilled troll hunters and bomb disposal experts worked to rehabilitate and work through the frustration the troll was feeling.

If people's opinions can be altered via normal debate, then that's all well and good. But to stick them in a re-education chamber is a ridiculous notion. Nobody's obliged to share the same views as other people, and variety is the spice of life. If we all constantly agreed on everything, it would be mind-numbingly boring. Plus, if we were all on the same page to start with, with the same opinions and interests, how could we hope to stretch each other's minds to help each other develop?
People seem to come away from the Icke forum completely deprived of critical faculties or coherent points or narratives about every subject they talk about, this indoctrination chamber of the forum would be for when individuals post information hurtful to "the cause" (as yet a vague term we perhaps need to think about?) or posting reactionary nonsensical arguments about Juice and not adhering to the parameters of debate, did you notice how the NAN arre able to never concede a single point on the DIF>?

I spent years with those people, and many far more skilled debaters than I, a few of them resident or past members here, people like snoops who tried all orthodox debate methods could not cease the constant repetition of reactionary nonsense about Jewz being posted, the forum would have benefitted and the individuals and others around them would have benefitted by people developing a framework for working through superstitious or reactionary, bigoted, intellectual laziness resulting in Far Right Wing groups gaining relevance to emerging disenfranchised groups of people.
It would hardly be a warm, welcoming experience logging on here, to be forcibly directed to such a facility.
perhaps less cold than a vote over whether to boot them out altogether?
Which are these 'brightest and most clinical minds' of which you speak - the ones suffering from delusions of grandeur you're proposing to do the indoctinating re-educating? Apart from yourself, obviously. :roll:

My vote is no, and behave yourself! :P
Only the females really and me and the american guys :up:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 19:26 #12

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:D I like your answer, and so soften my response to a maybe, if it was specifically for people who've shown themselves to be probable trolls.

Thanks for taking me off your detainees list btw.
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 19:27 #13

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detainees is a harsh word, ,,, but i like it :D
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 20:32 #14

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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 20:44 #15

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Who wants' a dungeon???
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Only the females really and me and the american guys :up:
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 22:55 #16

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did everyone else get boners or lady boners reading this thread
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Re: A Forum Request 19 Oct 2012 23:34 #17

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Ah so it's a satirical jokey post? :chuckle:

lmao!!! :D
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Re: A Forum Request 20 Oct 2012 09:52 #18

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Who wants' a dungeon???
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Only the females really and me and the american guys :up:

Just a troll cage to accommodate 1 if you've one spare, Jhado.

Cage


You can come out in a couple of days if you act nice & compliant Gue. :P
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Re: A Forum Request 20 Oct 2012 20:34 #19

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:sorry: my ADD kicked in and I lost concentration halfway through... I tried to read it all but all I got was about every other word, or every third word. But from what I did gather and I think I can safely say it's a :denied:

Now... an asylum sub forum, great idea for those that have gone bonkers. :coffee:
Or an AA (alcoholics anonymous) section, great. :cheers:
Or an AS (anonymous support section) would be great to, people can post their issues anonymously and get support without having to reveal who they are. But I don't think we have those functions here, at least not at the current time. :secret:
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Re: A Forum Request 20 Oct 2012 20:47 #20

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Or an AS (anonymous support section) would be great to, people can post their issues anonymously and get support without having to reveal who they are. But I don't think we have those functions here, at least not at the current time. :secret:

That's a good idea girl but as you said, not available on this type of forum.
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