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T.O.W.I.E. Discussion 10 Sep 2012 02:28 #1

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T.O.W.I.E. - The Only Way Is Ethics.

Does our 'civilization' fall short of it's potential because of a lack of ethical standards in our policies towards each other, management of natural resources and our apparent disregard for the welfare of other species sharing our planet?

Your thoughts?

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Re: T.O.W.I.E. Discussion 10 Sep 2012 02:49 #2

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Can 'falling short' ever be avoided? The other side of ethics is self gratification...mans primordial nature...another word for it, well i guess you could call it luciferianism perhaps.

Thats what gets in the way of ethics...people wanting to look after number 1...can this ever change?
Ethics, also known as moral philosophy, is a branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending, and recommending concepts of right and wrong behavior.

Are ethics essentially a primordial natural behaviour for man, or have they been instilled in us by people who dont engage in such behaviour? Tough question i know, and controversial.

Also, do people who engage in ethical behaviour always do so because they want to, or are they ethical because of fear of personal consequence...
Consequentialism is the class of normative ethical theories holding that the consequences of one's conduct are the ultimate basis for any judgment about the rightness of that conduct.

Consequentialism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequentialism

My point with the last part is...people who are in positions of power, and in a way untouchable...do they or will they ever give a toss about ethics?
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Re: T.O.W.I.E. Discussion 10 Sep 2012 02:54 #3

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Are ethics the same across national/cultural/religious boundaries?

Tough to decide and perhaps still not the right word to use imho.
Feather is close though, and from the POV of those of us here would be correct.
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Obviously we are compelled to talk in generalisations when addressing this topic. Man has too many behavioural permutations to legislate per individual.

Keeping in mind the generalised context, I propose that the approach of the American and Australian aboriginal peoples is a model worthy of consideration.

They regarded themselves as an integral part of nature and the life cycle. Not above it, not apart from it, not as stewards of it, simply as participants within it.
They honoured and respected their neighbouring species as family. Taking only that which was required for survival, utilising each bone, hide and sinew, branch, reed and shell to provide shelter, clothing, tools and decoration and trade goods.
Anything worn, broken or lost was organic waste which would do no harm.

Throughout their philosophy ran an attitude of respect, gratitude, mutual caring and an acute understanding that whatever they did to the land and it's inhabitants they would eventually do to themselves.

These values became lost or corrupted as they settled into fixed communities, either by their own design or by imposition from invasive forces.
Under those circumstances they had to abandon the nomadic 'grazing' lifestyle, following the seasonal bounty, and be compelled to manage the surrounding landscape to provide for a fixed populous. At that point mother earth becomes servile to 'man' and her role is diminished in their eyes. Arrogance and greed soon follow and decline is eventually a certainty.

There was a logical ethic beforehand which was sensible and sustainable.
By accepting and respecting the whole you are best placed to cater to all.
You looked after all the number 1's best over the long term by not stripping the resources in the short term.



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