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50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 07:26 #1

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50 Shades of Grey Conspiracy Theory

July 10, 2012 by Huston

I had to see what the fuss was all about, so today while the family and I were at Costco, I picked up one of their several hundred copies of 50 Shades of Grey, opened to the middle, and read three pages (the end of chapter 18 and the beginning of chapter 19).

Wow. Everything I’ve heard about it seemed confirmed in just those three pages: an insecure, immature female narrator finds her security in submitting to a powerful man whose own stability is less than healthy.

So basically, it’s Twilight, except that the writing here is absolutely execrable. I know we all make fun of Twilight, but Stephanie Meyer’s writing really isn’t awful, just servicable–it’s a plain, dull instrument, but at least it’s competent.

But E.L. James’s writing is so bad it’s scary. I haven’t seen supposedly professional writing this bad since Eragon. I read plenty of labored narration and stilted dialogue in just those three pages (“Holy cow! I’m going to meet his parents!” sticks out in my memory right now), as well as botched metaphors and hilariously juvenile descriptions of sex.

It’s so wretched that I have to wonder if it’s on purpose. Here’s my theory: 50 Shades of Grey was actually written by a group of misogynistic 12-year-old boys. These jerks have a twisted plan: they want millions of women to fall in love with this stuff, identify with it, and publicly proclaim allegiance to it (a blockbuster movie is in the works).

Once stage one of the plot is complete, the boys will reveal their scheme to the world. They wrote the book to embarrass women everywhere. They want to confirm every pitiful anti-woman stereotype out there. Fans of the book will be exposed as emotionally damaged, and women’s public image will be set back half a century.

So far, their plan is coming off without a hitch.

Be suspicious, ladies. Be very suspicious. I smell a trap.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 08:11 #2

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I've not read 50 Shades, as it doesn't appeal to me, but I wonder what Huston would think of the Mills & Boon romances my sister-in-law reads. The writing of those is also exe­crable (I had to look that word up, and now intend to use it :D ) and seems to be mainly about stereo-typical modern-day damsels in distress being rescued and protected by big strong heroes.They've been highly popular for decades - I think my gran used to like them. Who doesn't like a big strong hero anyway? ;) :chuckle:

Although the passage is light-hearted enough, I'm not liking the idea of people being mocked for enjoying a novel really, or that this choice of material should be used to make derisive judgements about its readers.

Who's to say there's not many a copy sitting on people's book-shelves alongside Shakespeare, Patricia cornwell, George R.R. Martin & Spike Milligan?
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 10:08 #3

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OK, I'll 'fess up - I'm currently reading 50 Shades of Grey! I also enjoy reading Mills & Boon historical romances (especially Regency ones). I also don't regard myself as a "feminist" (which shocks some people - they expect all women to be feminists these days!). 50 Shades...is OK - I've read better books. I don't think it's "anti-feminist" or "anti-women" - it's a study of two individuals in a specific type of relationship, not a critique of society as a whole.

I read the books I do for escapism and relaxation. I also have Jane Austen, Charles Dickens, Ian Rankin and Trollope on my book-shelf for when I'm in the mood for something more demanding! :D

Interesting discussion - thanks, oioioi!

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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 15:25 #4

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I've heard most girls flick through it quite quickly.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 16:16 #5

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Mrs oioioi was handed down a copy this summer, her appraisal "there's nothing you haven't already thought of except he's not on a budget" :D

My reasons for posting this thread are/were slightly mischievous, but since the matter has come up.... I don't think feminism can exist in the act of sex/love-making in a hetro relationship, it's a submissive act (from both sides) in itself and the right to say "no" exists for both sexes, it's not just a feminist issue.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 16:28 #6

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^ Good point.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 19:04 #7

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Gilly wrote:
^ Good point.

Indeed. Sex apart, falling in love with and committing yourself to someone is in itself an act of submission.

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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 20:30 #8

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quietgirl wrote:
Gilly wrote:
^ Good point.

Indeed. Sex apart, falling in love with and committing yourself to someone is in itself an act of submission.

Mandy

Very true.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 20:51 #9

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never read it, but i hear its all the rage
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 21:27 #10

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Dumb it down for me,what's it basically about,I have heard of it also
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 10 Sep 2012 21:30 #11

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Rick wrote:
Dumb it down for me,what's it basically about,I have heard of it also

Rich bloke meets a virgin who becomes his submissive.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 11 Sep 2012 03:50 #12

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50 shades of shit. :coffee:
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 11 Sep 2012 05:25 #13

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some fat chick wrote it as a fan fiction or something i think.
when she could take her mind off donuts, she thought about getting ass raped in a dungeon and decided to make a book about it.
its all true. look it up.
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 11 Sep 2012 07:16 #14

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batou wrote:
some fat chick wrote it as a fan fiction or something i think.
when she could take her mind off donuts, she thought about getting ass raped in a dungeon and decided to make a book about it.
its all true. look it up.

Ooh, donuts you say? Yum! :rab:
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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 11 Sep 2012 08:49 #15

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Gilly wrote:
batou wrote:
some fat chick wrote it as a fan fiction or something i think.
when she could take her mind off donuts, she thought about getting ass raped in a dungeon and decided to make a book about it.
its all true. look it up.

Ooh, donuts you say? Yum! :rab:

*Pricks up her ears*. Did someone mention donuts? Save one for me! I like the ones with chocolate sprinkles! Mmm, nom nom nom! :D

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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 11 Sep 2012 08:55 #16

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BTW, if anyone here is on Twitter, check out "50 Sheds of Grey" - it's really funny!

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Re: 50 Shades of Grey: an anti-feminist conspiracy? 11 Sep 2012 09:18 #17

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I've just looked at a funny review. Where I mentioned Mills & Boon, this describes it as...

“It’s Mills and Boon with butt plugs,” said Kathy Lette. “It taps into a lot of women’s need for non-consensual sex,” explained Bonnie Greer. “We’re fed up making decisions every day, we just want to be dominated sometimes,” was the conclusion of a reading group. “I don’t know a woman who wants an anal fisting of a Friday night,” disagreed Rachel Johnson.

:D
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Gilly wrote:
I've just looked at a funny review. Where I mentioned Mills & Boon, this describes it as...

“It’s Mills and Boon with butt plugs,” said Kathy Lette. “It taps into a lot of women’s need for non-consensual sex,” explained Bonnie Greer. “We’re fed up making decisions every day, we just want to be dominated sometimes,” was the conclusion of a reading group. “I don’t know a woman who wants an anal fisting of a Friday night,” disagreed Rachel Johnson.

:D

Or indeed any night... :umm:

:D

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quietgirl wrote:
Gilly wrote:
I've just looked at a funny review. Where I mentioned Mills & Boon, this describes it as...

“It’s Mills and Boon with butt plugs,” said Kathy Lette. “It taps into a lot of women’s need for non-consensual sex,” explained Bonnie Greer. “We’re fed up making decisions every day, we just want to be dominated sometimes,” was the conclusion of a reading group. “I don’t know a woman who wants an anal fisting of a Friday night,” disagreed Rachel Johnson.

:D



Or indeed any night... :umm:

:D

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Quite! :cool:

Anything that goes on between consenting adults to tickle their fancy is fine by me, but the likes of this Bonnie Greer person are a bit of a menace when they behave as though they're speaking on behalf of all woman-kind, don't you think? Are you 'consenting' if you want someone to do something to you against your will? :conf:
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Gilly wrote:
quietgirl wrote:
Gilly wrote:
I've just looked at a funny review. Where I mentioned Mills & Boon, this describes it as...

“It’s Mills and Boon with butt plugs,” said Kathy Lette. “It taps into a lot of women’s need for non-consensual sex,” explained Bonnie Greer. “We’re fed up making decisions every day, we just want to be dominated sometimes,” was the conclusion of a reading group. “I don’t know a woman who wants an anal fisting of a Friday night,” disagreed Rachel Johnson.

:D



Or indeed any night... :umm:

:D

Mandy

Quite! :cool:

Anything that goes on between consenting adults to tickle their fancy is fine by me, but the likes of this Bonnie Greer person are a bit of a menace when they behave as though they're speaking on behalf of all woman-kind, don't you think? Are you 'consenting' if you want someone to do something to you against your will? :conf:

I agree - whatever consenting adults do behind closed doors is up to them, but Bonnie Greer's comments just make me face-palm. I suppose there are women out there who have "rape fantasies", or whatever, but TBH there's a vast difference between fantasising about something and actually having it done to one! And of course, if you consent to something, then it's no longer non-consensual!

When I said in my earlier post that I'm not a feminist, it doesn't mean that I think women are all doormats who should be treated any old how by men. I believe that men and women are absolutely equal in value, but have different roles. Maybe if I were a more ambitious, career-orientated person I'd feel differently, but IMHO we've created a society where women think they need to behave like men in order to "get on", and traditional "female" roles are looked down on and not given the respect they deserve. It seems to bring out the worst in both sexes, somehow! (Just IMHO, of course!).

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