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Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 15:14 #1

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The fact that Siemens have admitted using slave labour in the second world war makes it hard for me to understand why Siemens is supplying more than 30 percent of Israel's electricity.

Siemens leads the energy market in Israel, with more than 30 percent of the country’s electricity supply produced using Siemens turbines. Between 2008 and 2011, Siemens invested more than EUR 300 million and has strengthened its position in Israel’s renewable energy market by acquiring a 37 percent equity ($15 million) in Arava Power Company, a local developer of photovoltaic power plants.

www.siemens.com/about/en/worldwide/israel_1154627.htm

Back in 2002
Siemens retreats over Nazi name

German engineering giant Siemens has hastily abandoned plans to register the trademark "Zyklon", the same name as the Zyklon B poison gas used in Nazi extermination camps, BBC News Online has learnt.

A year ago, Bosch Siemens Hausgeraete (BSH), the firm's consumer products joint venture, filed two applications with the US Patent & Trademark Office for the Zyklon name across a range of home products, including gas ovens.

Jewish groups have condemned the move, in particular because Siemens used slave labour during the Nazi period.

Like many other large German firms, Siemens is now involved in plans to compensate victims of the Nazi regime.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2233890.stm

A few questions.

1.Jewish groups were rightly offended by the name chosen by Siemens regarding the zyklon range of products but are not offended by Siemens producing electricity for people in Israel,why not?

2.Were the slaves used by Siemens mainly Jewish faith people or mainly non Jewish faith people?

3.If the slaves used by Siemens were mainly Jewish faith people why the inconsistent behavior towards the company Siemens?

Don't say It's just about money,that's so sad if it is.
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 15:31 #2

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I've read your post and saw the words nazi's and jews appeared in it.

That in itself makes your post less credible and difficult to reply to
Last Edit: 02 Sep 2012 15:31 by dawnbreak.
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 15:47 #3

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dawnbreak wrote:
I've read your post and saw the words nazi's and jews appeared in it.

That in itself makes your post less credible and difficult to reply to

Thanks for letting me know you won't be replying to my questions dawnbreak :)

I sometimes just don't reply to threads/questions rather than post that i won't be replying to them :think:
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 16:14 #4

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humanspirit wrote:

Don't say It's just about money,that's so sad if it is.

It's just about m..........


Oh wait.......hang on a mo.....


I haven't looked into this but yes you're right to question. Siemens was a massive part of the Nazi war machine, involved in the flight capital program and very is much part of the 'fourth Reich'. The reasons why they may wish to be so active in Israel are very much easier to comprehend than why they are so welcome. Zyklon? :facepalm:
Ultimately I'd speculate that this is just another expression of global corporo-fascism with no small amount of ner ner thrown in :(
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 16:26 #5

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humanspirit wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:
I've read your post and saw the words nazi's and jews appeared in it.

That in itself makes your post less credible and difficult to reply to

Thanks for letting me know you won't be replying to my questions dawnbreak :)

I sometimes just don't reply to threads/questions rather than post that i won't be replying to them :think:




:D It might just be me but I hate threads like this......

not you humanspirit but these types of threads.
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 22:44 #6

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No worries dawnbreak i understand your concerns,there is no ulterior motive on my behalf regarding the subject i have asked about.

I really do find it strange though regarding Siemens being in Israel and to be honest i find it offensive that money means more than past events but i am naive when it comes to business dealings.

thanks for you response mr dub,i am coming to the conclusion that some business men/women will do anything and work with any company for personal gain and to stop any type of socialist or political system which is not elitist.

This is not exclusive to Israel as the backers of fascism have continued throughout Europe and USA.
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Last Edit: 02 Sep 2012 23:02 by humanspirit.
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 22:59 #7

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corporations and the real power behind them dont care for borders...the common citizens dont have much of a say on these issues...and as always, politicians are there to serve the corporations not the people.
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Last Edit: 02 Sep 2012 23:12 by novum.
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 02 Sep 2012 23:01 #8

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humanspirit wrote:
i am coming to the conclusion that some business men/women will do anything and work with any company for personal gain and to stop any type of socialist or political system which is not elitist.
:clap:
I share you suspiscions. :yup:
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 03 Sep 2012 00:38 #9

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Everything is corporatized, the governments, local councils, ploice forces, everything, and thats the plan, which has worked so well people dont even see it.

The mind set behind it is fascism, as Mussolini said.
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.

So it doesn't matter which country it's in or what the people think, it's just good business. :iitm:
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Re: Why are Siemens in Israel? 03 Sep 2012 00:48 #10

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A year ago, Bosch Siemens Haus­ger­aete (BSH), the firm’s con­sumer prod­ucts joint ven­ture, filed two appli­ca­tions with the US Patent & Trade­mark Office for the Zyk­lon name across a range of home prod­ucts, includ­ing gas ovens

How the hell could anyone think that would be a good idea? I mean there is no way this could of been done accidentally, so we must assume there was a purposeful intent behind it. Was it to rehabilitate the brand? Maybe there is a niche market of neo-nazis who like kitchen cookware. Was it a sick in office joke that got out of hand? Or does the company still hold with its previous nazi ideology?
Maybe by taking the job of running Israels electricity they believe they are striking a blow for neo nazis everywhere by charging them slightly too much for their leccy?
Anyway, whichever it is, its sick. I hope their share price dropped significantly. Seems to be the only thing these Corps care about.
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