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TOPIC: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School

Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:44 #21

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
At the risk of being flippant, it's because high school in the States is a bloody nightmare. I mean, school in general is not particularly pleasant, but as far as I can see as an outsider, US high school just looks like a six year popularity contest where all the kids who don't have the right attributes to be popular and successful have their noses rubbed in it every day.

I must say that I believe video games don't help either, particularly Call of Duty etc.

4 years... 9th Freshman, 10th Sophomore, 11th Junior, 12th Senor.
Hazing in Freshman years...and if you get into sports there is even more hazing.
Bullying occurs all through it though from pre-school until you graduate.
Then god forbid you choose to go to college...gang rapes, hazing into fraternities (for both women and men), etc...

Video games probably don't help. I make my son stick to Mario and Kerby and stupid shit like that while people I know stick their kids in front of war games...then wonder why they get so violent and where they learned it from.

It could have been a previous student who had a grudge against the teachers. Or a parent who had lost custody and lost his mind. Or a controlled situation to help enforce stricter gun laws.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:50 #22

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this is little kids. you cant justify it, its so dark. maybe it is a sacrifice. its evil, even for inhumans.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:52 #23

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Agreed Bats, cannot be justified no matter what.

I read this somewhere else... "ever since Obama took presidency, shootings in places you would never think they would happen, have occurred more and more". Thoughts?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:54 #24

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i dont know. what has there been, the james holmes shooting?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:55 #25

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psketti wrote:
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As for the guns, yup...brilliant idea if they do that

I'm not agreeing its a good idea girl... just saying there's gonna be some very sharp changes in your gun laws after this without a doubt.

Yep...problem reaction solution.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:56 #26

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Agreed Bats, cannot be justified no matter what.

I read this somewhere else... "ever since Obama took presidency, shootings in places you would never think they would happen, have occurred more and more". Thoughts?

In my opinion it's not a direct correlation, but an expansion of certain black ops programs.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 19:58 #27

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batou wrote:
i dont know. what has there been, the james holmes shooting?

:dunno: When did he take office? 2008?
February 2008 - a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.
February 2008 - a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.
July 2008 – A former student shot three people in a computer lab at South Mountain Community College, Phoenix, Arizona.
September 2008 - a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.
October 2008 - Several men in a car drove up to a dormitory at the University of Central Arkansas and opened fire, killing two students and injuring a third person.
December 2008 - a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.
March 2009 - a 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.
March 2009 - a heavily-armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.
March 2009 - six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.
April 2009 – An 18-year-old former student followed a pizza deliveryman into his old dormitory, and shot the deliveryman, a dorm monitor, and himself at Hampton University, Virginia.
April 2009 - a man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.
July 2009 - Six people, including one student, were shot in a drive-by shooting at a community rally on the campus of Texas Southern University, Houston.
November 2009 - U.S. army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.
February 2010 – A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others
January 2011 - a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona, killing six people including a nine-year-old girl and wounding at least 12 others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was severely injured with a gunshot to the head.
July 2012 - Masked gunman opens fire at midnight cinema screen of new Batman film The Dark Knight Rises, killing 12 and injuring 58. Suspect James Holmes is arrested by oplice and awaiting trial.
August 2012 - Gunman kills six people at SIkh temple in Wisconsin before being shot dead by police. Suspect is named as white supremacists Wade Michael Page.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/north...since-Columbine.html
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:00 #28

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Gilly wrote:
But this was an elementary school WUB - 5 to 10 year olds.
I didn't know it was an elementary school, it's usually high school.

I have no idea then. I was talking to someone the other week and they stated that television aimed at children is very disturbing nowadays. I couldn't really comment about that, but there are many potentially negative influences on kids nowadays.

What I do believe is that a child aged between 5 and 10 is not intrinsically violent to that degree. Something has to have warped their development considerably. I don't believe anyone I went to school with could at that age have shot two dozen people; we all had enough of an understanding of the difference between right and wrong.StarsChildren wrote:
Video games probably don't help. I make my son stick to Mario and Kerby and stupid shit like that while people I know stick their kids in front of war games...then wonder why they get so violent and where they learned it from.
This is what I mean. I remember being in a queue in a shop behind a woman and her kid, and the child, who looked about nine, was reading the instruction booklet from Grand Theft Auto while his mother was stood next to him.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:07 #29

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New Update: Suspects mother was a teacher there, she died.

Obama to go on TV regarding this incident in the next 10 to 15 minutes.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:09 #30

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quote="StarsChildren" post=84543]Video games probably don't help. I make my son stick to Mario and Kerby and stupid shit like that while people I know stick their kids in front of war games...then wonder why they get so violent and where they learned it from.[/quote]This is what I mean. I remember being in a queue in a shop behind a woman and her kid, and the child, who looked about nine, was reading the instruction booklet from Grand Theft Auto while his mother was stood next to him.[/quote]

My ex's 7 year old played Grand Theft, James Bond, some war games I can't remember the name of. Also was a little snot, threw rocks at the house and dog (I threatened to let the dog out to eat him if he didn't stop), hit his sister, etc...
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:12 #31

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StarsChildren wrote:
My ex's 7 year old played Grand Theft, James Bond, some war games I can't remember the name of. Also was a little snot, threw rocks at the house and dog (I threatened to let the dog out to eat him if he didn't stop), hit his sister, etc...
Hardly surprising, is it? Playing such games will have a profound effect on his developing brain IMHO.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:20 #32

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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My ex's 7 year old played Grand Theft, James Bond, some war games I can't remember the name of. Also was a little snot, threw rocks at the house and dog (I threatened to let the dog out to eat him if he didn't stop), hit his sister, etc...
Hardly surprising, is it? Playing such games will have a profound effect on his developing brain IMHO.

His father wasn't much of a roll model either... can say one thing though, he learned to listen to me after I scared the shit out of him. Straightened right up when I walked in the room by the time the kids moved out.


Obama is on TV right now...
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His quick speech involved requesting people not to discuss gun laws today but to grieve... he talked about the kids and how sad it is. Teared up a few times, chin was shaking a few times, he kept his eyes down most of the time, didn't take any questions or touch on anything else.

CNN Update: Besides the suspects mother being dead, his brother(s) is also dead. Both his roommate were questioned but are not suspected as being a part of it.

Gov/Police Chief Update from Live briefing: Still investigating identity of shooter who is dead at the school, 20 children, 6 adults, secondary crime scene at another location, suspects mom killed at the school, one of suspects brothers is dead, took place in one section of the school in 2 rooms, now up to 3 weapons found possibly more on scene, principal and psychologist at school both dead,1 injury now instead of multiple. Now he is dicking around about answering questions. Still working on identifying all dead positively.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:45 #34

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This is so Sad, but it makes me so angry emotional of this...... I hope they give the mass murdering monkeys a perminate dirt bath :coffee:
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 20:58 #35

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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 21:44 #36

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Good words.

Are there any actual empaths here? Did anyone feel any genuine sincerity?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 23:12 #37

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Just heard most of the children that lost their lives today were kindergarteners (5 year old's) :(
Edit: It also was not RYAN Lanza, it was ADAM Lanza (or so media is saying, police are refusing to comment on it).



Gilly, I think empaths have to be somewhere in the same general vicinity of the person...not through a TV.
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Here are two talk/news radio stations out of Connecticut to put your finger on the pulse of the locals.

betaplayer.radio.com/player/1080-wtic-newstalk/

www.iheart.com/#/live/453/?autoplay=true

Stars, I think an empath can read someone on TV, but Obama is a hard one to read.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 14 Dec 2012 23:19 #39

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Words fail me.

Society failed the shooter.
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Words fail me.

Society failed the shooter.

You're got to be kidding right, :conf:
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