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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 14:11 #21

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One MP I have some respect for:



Not merely for that:



The assessments are simply designed to get people off benefit. It's as simple as that. They ask you if you can turn a kettle on, and then conclude that if you can you're fit to work full-time. Then when you go to the Jobcentre, they can make you go and work in a factory, for example, for 40 hours per week. And if you don't go along with it they can and will stop your benefit. And not only that, but the employees of the Jobcentre have targets regarding the number of people they get off benefit each month, by hook or by crook.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 15:36 #22

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
And not only that, but the employees of the Jobcentre have targets regarding the number of people they get off benefit each month, by hook or by crook.

Obviously, you know this to be true from experience, but I can confirm this from the pov of someone on the other side of the desk also.

During one visit, this chap went to great lengths to wind me up about what I was writing and in which boxes etc. He said stuff like "we need to know what the company name and address is and we need a contact telephone number" (all in a box the size of a stamp) to which I reply, "the company name is clearly written there, they are quite a large brand. I have also written that I applied for a position in the High Street in the same box. In the other box I have given you the email address that I sent the CV to. I have also quoted the Job Centre website reference number"

To which, he says "right...erm, you need to write that in this box and we still need the full address". I respond "don't you have the details of the company that placed the ad on your website? And what does it matter which box I put this information in? It is all clearly written there for you to see..."

Etc. This went on for the length of my interview. I was just below 'shouting' level when he started to giggle at me. Throughout though, he was shifting in his chair and you could see he wasn't completely comfortable doing what he was doing. He had obviously been put under pressure to meet targets that day and was doubtless doing the same thing to everyone he saw. He kept threatening me with sanctions if I didn't acquiesce to which I responded "go-fer-it, mate. I've done everything you've asked me to do and have in no way breached the terms of my Jobseekers agreement. If you think you can prove otherwise, I'm all ears". He backed off at that point.

I know we all have to earn a crust but I just don't get these people.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 15:45 #23

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Even with decent mp's all they can manage to do is make a song and dance about it, nothing really changes.
If labour got voted in tomorrow in all likelihood they would renew the atos contract
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 16:09 #24

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Ab Origine wrote:
Obviously, you know this to be true from experience, but I can confirm this from the pov of someone on the other side of the desk also.
Your experience doesn't surprise me in the slightest:

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/01/...le-benefit-sanctions
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Even with decent mp's all they can manage to do is make a song and dance about it, nothing really changes.
If labour got voted in tomorrow in all likelihood they would renew the atos contract
This would give a good indication:

blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/04/08/ed-...ping-of-dla-for-pip/

Labour are in Atos and Serco's backpocket, and any other number of similar companies, often military-industrial contractors.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 19:39 #25

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/04/08/ed-...ping-of-dla-for-pip/

Labour are in Atos and Serco's backpocket, and any other number of similar companies, often military-industrial contractors.

All the same, all the bastards are all the same.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 05 Jun 2013 22:20 #26

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More about Atos here:

The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Jun 2013 17:39 #27

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Praise the Lord it's a miracle!

Sick people are going into Atos buildings and coming out cured just by having medical assessments.

It's flummoxed the medical profession and even Jesus has gone off in a huff mumbling something about putting him out of work and it's a fix.

Anybody suffering make your way down to an Atos assessment centre and you will come out suffering no illnesses what so ever!
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Jun 2013 18:02 #28

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andyh wrote:
If labour got voted in tomorrow in all likelihood they would renew the atos contract

That is safe to say because it was Labour back in 2008 that awarded the ATOS first contract. :mad:
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Jun 2013 18:03 #29

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Jon Ronson ^^^^^^^
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