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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 01:11 #1

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For immediate Press Release 24/04/13

“Free Steven Topley Demonstration and Leafleting.”

Photo opportunity: Friday 26th April 2013. 9.30-11.00 am

Family and supporters will protest Steven Topley’s innocence and imprisonment outside Nottingham Crown Court 60 Canal St, Nottingham, NG1 7EL.
Contact details: Dave Perkins Tel; 07971 373479. Gina Topley Tel; 07952 976316.

A campaign has begun to free a man detained by police since 11th April for allegedly making a threatening comment during a Atos interview. Police were called to Steve Topley’s ESA interview by Atos staff who then escorted him to the QMC where he was kept late into the night and denied contact with his family, despite medical staff finding no reason to detain him. He was arrested by police later that night and charged with “threatening behaviour”. Magistrates denied Steve bail, on two occasions, even under strict conditions, and he has since been remanded to Nottingham Prison. A demonstration has been called to highlight this injustice.

Steve has had no visits in Prison, not been offered an appropriate adult, and has been discharged from the QMC where there was deemed to be no reason to detain him under any section of the mental health act. Those prosecuting him continue to criminalise and pathologise him and present him as some kind of risk, insisting on closed hearings and secrecy. His health is suffering due to his treatment as he has a life threatening heart condition and requires constant monitoring and medication.

Steve’s sister Gina Topley will be available to answer specific questions relating to this case , and be interviewed, as well as concerned campaign supporters.

More background information is available at: www.freestevetopley.wordpress.com

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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 09:42 #2

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So this atos crowd are an IT outsourcing company who are involved with govt contracts incl interviewing people in jobcentres for welfare benefits etc?

I'd love to know more about them tbh , I've missed out on all this :D
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 10:23 #3

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andyh wrote:
So this atos crowd are an IT outsourcing company who are involved with govt contracts incl interviewing people in jobcentres for welfare benefits etc?

I'd love to know more about them tbh , I've missed out on all this :D

I'm not sure what worries me most, that or the police trying to get him sectioned, failing that detaining him seemingly unlawfully, all for something he said!
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 10:33 #4

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Secret court hearings too wtf?

You can spend less time in jail for actual physical violence...I should know :D
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 12:07 #5

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andyh wrote:
So this atos crowd are an IT outsourcing company who are involved with govt contracts incl interviewing people in jobcentres for welfare benefits etc?

I'd love to know more about them tbh , I've missed out on all this :D
They are scarily huge andy with a reputation for being savagely litigious. (Just giving a heads up there). *cough*

A cursory glance at their wiki will give you some idea, (They now own Siemens for example, I didn't know that).
The health assessments side of their uk operation is riddled with criticisms from all quarters.
They controversially sponsored the Paralympics.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 12:12 #6

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Well they do all the IT for seimens and they have a big call centre here in Cork.

Interestingly enough they have a guy from seimens on their board.

Theres too much of this contracting out to shady cunts going on, you don't have to be a conspiracy nut to see it fucking stinks.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 12:16 #7

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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 12:16 #8

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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 12:34 #9

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There's endless jaw-dropping tales mate.

https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/suttonnews/10044341.Grandfather_with_traumatic_brain_injury_told_he_is_fit_to_work/

Zan Marseilles, 50, of Vellum Drive, Carshalton, was taking part in a motorcycle event in Nürburgring, Germany in 2007, when he crashed.
The impact split his helmet in half and he suffered traumatic head injuries which left him in a coma for three months. When he came round he was left with permanent problems with his speech, balance, walking and the use of his right arm.

Mr Marseilles used to own two construction and refurbishment businesses as well as four houses.
However, he did not have life insurance and lost it all after his accident and now lives in council accommodation.
Because he was deemed unfit to work he has been receiving Employment Support Allowance to cover his living expenses.
But in July the controversial company Atos Healthcare reassessed him on behalf of the government and decided, on the basis that he could stand for a minute unaided and that his speech was intelligible, that he was fit to work.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 12:35 #10

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feather wrote:
There's endless jaw-dropping tales mate.

https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/suttonnews/10044341.Grandfather_with_traumatic_brain_injury_told_he_is_fit_to_work/

Zan Marseilles, 50, of Vellum Drive, Carshalton, was taking part in a motorcycle event in Nürburgring, Germany in 2007, when he crashed.
The impact split his helmet in half and he suffered traumatic head injuries which left him in a coma for three months. When he came round he was left with permanent problems with his speech, balance, walking and the use of his right arm.

Mr Marseilles used to own two construction and refurbishment businesses as well as four houses.
However, he did not have life insurance and lost it all after his accident and now lives in council accommodation.
Because he was deemed unfit to work he has been receiving Employment Support Allowance to cover his living expenses.
But in July the controversial company Atos Healthcare reassessed him on behalf of the government and decided, on the basis that he could stand for a minute unaided and that his speech was intelligible, that he was fit to work.

omfg...
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 19:20 #11

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Yes, they are lying, callous bastards, who with no medical training, are employed for the purpose, not of 'assessing', as claimed, but of stitching people up, no matter what their circumstances are. People who desperately need support. The whole situation is a travesty, and I was pleased to see those disabled support groups demonstrating. I'd like to find a group of people round here willing to take a stand over it. I want to do something about it.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 20:11 #12

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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 21:52 #13

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I saw this yesterday.
I've still not got to the bottom of what it was the guy said.
Secret courts is a fucking joke no matter what the alleged crime.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 22:06 #14

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Space Bandit wrote:
I saw this yesterday.
I've still not got to the bottom of what it was the guy said.
Secret courts is a fucking joke no matter what the alleged crime.

It really doesn't matter. What the fuck can anybody say that justifies that treatment? What combination of words deserves that? I need to fine tune. :chuckle:
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 26 Apr 2013 22:21 #15

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Space Bandit wrote:
I saw this yesterday.
I've still not got to the bottom of what it was the guy said.
Secret courts is a fucking joke no matter what the alleged crime.

It really doesn't matter. What the fuck can anybody say that justifies that treatment? What combination of words deserves that? I need to fine tune. :chuckle:

Nowt I'm just a curious oranje
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 29 Apr 2013 10:29 #16

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Steve Topley gets bail thanks to Nottingham solidarity campaign

solidar | 27.04.2013 17:54
It’s great to see that a local campaign could be mounted so quickly to demand the freedom of Steve Topley, who had been detained by police since 11th April for allegedly making a threatening comment during an Employment Support Allowance interview.

DWP’s private contractor ATOS had called the police about something that must happen every day when they are subjecting people to degrading fit-for-work tests, something they have had to apologise for on other occasions. The comment, interpreted as a ‘death threat’ was about a third party not even present, and in response to a direct prompt by the interviewer. Steve, who was on JSA but had been recommended to have the interview for ESA due to illness, subsequently pleaded guilty but continued to be held. Thanks to the efforts of his family and supporters, including an independent press campaign by Indymedia and a demonstration outside the court, Steve was finally granted bail at Nottingham Crown Court on Friday 26th April 2013, at the third application. His ordeal is not over as he has to appear back at the Court in 3 weeks time for sentencing but, as of yesterday, “Steve is back with his family tonight and is in good spirits”.

At the same time that Steve Topley was being bailed, evidence has been emerging of bizarre psychological warfare by the Department for Work and Pensions on claimants by the use of a new ‘personality test’ which after a trial in Essex appears to be going national. Claimants are being warned that failure to comply with the test will result in a sanction (stopping of benefits). And this is only one month after widespread adherence by Job Centres to DWP quotas to sanction claimants were exposed. With legal aid also being denied to claimants for benefits cases it appears that the government’s gloves have properly come off and allusions to torture are not as extreme as they might first appear.

If we organise to fight back collectively the police will, not surprisingly, take sides. Previously the cops were called by ATOS Healthcare in Nottingham during a demonstration at its Stoney Street examination centre against their administration of the tests, which resulted in two arrests (charges subsequently dropped). This has been written up by the Nottingham activists involved in a well-researched booklet, ‘Too much of that sort of thing’ which should be read by everyone.

The recent mounting of support for Steve Topley has been inspiring and will continue. This kind of solidarity is made possible by the experience of local activists who are prepared to act quickly in a case like this together with the existance of communication channels like Nottingham Indymedia. More collective effort will be needed as the effects of further Welfare Reforms come to bear.

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An earlier post on indymedis reported on a demo in support of Steve www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/04/508969.html
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 12:22 #17

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Atos Benefits Row: Transplant Patient Linda Wootton Dies After Being Judged 'Fit For Work'
Huffington Post UK | Posted: 28/05/2013 18:33 BST | Updated: 28/05/2013 18:44 BST

A woman has died only nine days after the government declared her fit for work.

Linda Wootton was dying on a hospital bed as the ruling to remove her benefits came.

Her husband Peter told the Sunday Mirror: "I sat there and listened to my wife drown in her own body fluids. It took half an hour for her to die – and that’s a woman who’s ‘fit for work’. The last months of her life were a misery because she worried about her benefits, feeling useless, like a scrounger."

Mrs Wootton had suffered complications after a heart and lung transplant thirty years earlier and had regular blackouts as well as being on 10 different prescription medications.

Her death certificate listed lung and heart problems, hypertension and chronic renal failure as being responsible for her passing.

Controversial healthcare provider Atos carried out the fit for work test on behalf of the government earlier in April, questioning the 49-year-old with questions as varied as 'can you get dressed' to 'what is 100 minus 25'?

The assessments are backed up by medical evidence from doctors and the DWP decided to remove the £110 in benefits she had been receiving, concluding she was fit enough to find a job.


The rest is here...

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/28/lind...-work_n_3346582.html

And bloody sickening it is too. Surely they can't just keep saying, "It was a mistake", and get away with it. :mad:
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 12:36 #18

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What sickens me more is that there are actually bastards in this world who think it is perfectly acceptable to do this to other human beings for a living.

I hope those Atos advisors get cat aids.

Well, maybe not that, but I do relish the thought that maybe one day they will find themselves too ill to find regular work and be placed at the mercy of their own organisation. Perhaps they'll then realise the consequences of their actions and at least feel some remorse.

Probably not though.

Cunts.
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 13:21 #19

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Those responsible basically need some griefing
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WTF?! (I struggled to come up with a 'headline' that sums up this) 01 Jun 2013 13:27 #20

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Griefings not the word I'd use ;)
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