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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 14:19 #1

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A nice illustration of the hype and misinformation the press puts out V's reality :mad:

Britons dramatically overestimate the amount of teenage pregnancy, crime and benefit fraud in the UK. A new report by Ipsos Mori checks the perceptions against the truth.

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Britons have a distorted view of their country, says a new report.

We think there is more benefit fraud, more crime and more underage pregnancies than there actually are, says polling agency Ipsos Mori which has just published 10 of the most popular statistical misperceptions about UK society today.

People also overestimate how much we spend on foreign aid and jobseekers allowance.

Ipsos Mori interviewed 1,015 adults in the UK to gauge public opinion on social policy issues and contrasted perceptions with the statistics drawn from the Office of National Statistics.

The report is part of a collaboration with the Royal Statistical Society which examines how to form policy when public perception is out of kilter with the evidence. A conference in King's College, London, will explore the issue Tuesday night.

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Only 0.6 per cent of girls under 16 get pregnant each year, but Britons surveyed think that it is 15 per cent, 25 times higher than reality.

We hugely overestimate benefit fraud, too, says the survey, assuming that £24 out of every £100 spent on social welfare goes on fraudulent claims. Official estimates say the total is 34 times lower: only £0.70 is lost to fraud.

We think the country is older and more ethnically diverse than it actually is. The British believe that 30 per cent of the UK is black or Asian, when only 11 per cent of the population come from these backgrounds. We think the population is much older than it actually is - the average estimate is that 36 per cent of the population are 65+, when only 16 per cent are.

And we assume that 31 per cent of people in Britain people are immigrants. The actual figure is 13 per cent.

Spending estimates
Perceptions of government spending differed significantly from the reality, with people overestimating how much the government would save by capping household benefits at £26,000, a policy recently introduced by the Conservatives. That policy will only trim £290m from the welfare budget, though a third assumed that this cap was the one policy that would save the most cash.

Stopping child benefit for families with income over £50,000, would save £1.7bn, though only 14 per cent thought that was the most effective cost-saving measure. In fact, the single policy that would save the most cash is raising the pension age to 66, which is predicted to save £5bn. 12 per cent of respondents thought that was the case.

Finally, though we may not actually know how the government is using our money, we are more politically engaged than we give ourselves credit for: respondents guessed that about 43 per cent of the population voted in the last election, when 65 per cent actually did.

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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 14:35 #2

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I only see 6 things :D

The one about child benefit is pretty in yer face eh!

People think 30 odd pc of us are immigrants :facepalm:

We are a nation of gullible twats it seems.


So we have to get 65% of Brits to realise they are wasting their time voting. Darn
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 14:40 #3

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knobmeup wrote:
I only see 6 things :D

The one about child benefit is pretty in yer face eh!

People think 30 odd pc of us are immigrants :facepalm:

We are a nation of gullible twats it seems.


So we have to get 65% of Brits to realise they are wasting their time voting. Darn

Maybe we're supposed to add 4 of our own.
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 14:57 #4

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It's not all in the pretty coloured circle piktchurz y'know, some of it is in the black squiggly bits underneath.

All mentioned ...

Teen Pregnancy
Cap Benefits
Immigration
Voting
Wealthy Child Benefit Cut
Benefit Fraud
Foreign Aid
Jobseekers Allowance
Ethnic Diversity figures
65yrs+ Figures

You've all got detention for the rest of the week, report to Sketti and brace yerselves. :gleek:
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 15:00 #5

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If it don't come in pretty circle picktchurz, I don't wanna know!!!
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I didn't come here to read.

I only like to look at the pictures and emoticons.
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knobmeup wrote:
If it don't come in pretty circle picktchurz, I'll probably never don't wanna know!!!
Fixed :gleek:
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 15:04 #8

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"probably"?


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Turns out there's likely an eleventh belief we have wrong about literacy levels.
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Problems with the UK:

1) The daily mail
2) The daily mail
3) The daily mail

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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 15:33 #11

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How about the old one about our Monarch merely being a figurehead who has no real power?

17 and a half trillion quids worth of no real power ;)
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 17:22 #12

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knobmeup wrote:
How about the old one about our Monarch merely being a figurehead who has no real power?

17 and a half trillion quids worth of no real power ;)

I used to believe the old Monarch merely being a figurehead story but not anymore.

Common sense would dictate that if originally they were in fact figureheads they definitely made a power play for more control.

If an organisation exists in a country as a constitutional monarchy it is at risk of being removed,the only way for it to secure it's future is to embed it's self into the higher echelons of society and gain more influence and control for a longer existence.
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 22:40 #13

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I reckon, when you're the biggest landowner on the planet, you're pretty untouchable anyway HS.
That is, if your subjects/tennants/slaves live under the illusion that a mortal human can actually own anything. That bits of paper are as solid as a Cornish granite tor...
When you 'own' most of the tax havens around the world you are in a position to exert great control over just who gets to take advantage of your system. You therefore have power over the 'money men' and the politicos. On the whole, they'll do what you fucking tell em... ;)
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 22:53 #14

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Isn't that 65% of voters actually a percentage of people eligible to vote who bother rather than adults in general?
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10 things Britons think about Britain that are wrong 10 Jul 2013 23:00 #15

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I'd hazard a guess that's right Oi...A whole new can of worms :D


ETA: Top topic feva :notworthy:
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What about the one where the City of London is a good thing for the people of Britain and the wider World? :killinme:
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Police are there to protect us from the bad men? :killinme:

The Military is protecting us from johnny foreign bad man? :killinme:
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The media is independent and impartial? :killinme:

That adverts for shite and subsequent purchases are somehow related to freedom of choice and expression? :killinme:
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I'd hazard a guess that's right Oi...A whole new can of worms :D
ETA: Top topic feva :notworthy:
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It was a toss up between that article or this act of derring do.
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How the fuck can I make that Gif my avvy? I've gone a bit kitty soft since Gizmo joined us :emb:
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