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US Gov on shutdown 03 Oct 2013 22:14 #81

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angelchemuel wrote:
Pretty much explains the shit we are all in!



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Except that any time they wanted to (if they were actually a sovereign entity and in control of their own actions and actually doing the bidding of the voters) they could just print treasury notes at 0% interest and dismiss the fed and abolish the debt.
Not gonna happen though because they are one of two things with no other possibility, they are either;

1) Fucking morons who haven't a clue.
or
2) Complicit in everything thats happening.

IMHO its a mix of the two with option 1 on the back benches and option 2 in the cabinet and the equivalent in the US and elsewhere.

I have met politicians and I'm 100% convinced this is the case because the backbenchers haven't a clue what I'm on about and continue to talk bollocks and the higher ups I've had the chance to talk to immediately go red in the face and hurry off.
We're being played and its becoming captain obvious now. Unfortunately still a large amount of the population are just like the back benchers.
Go ahead, if you ever get the chance try asking one and see what happens, the reactions are quite amusing.
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US Gov on shutdown 03 Oct 2013 23:34 #82

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Has the US come to a complete stand still, if not, wake me up when it does... :killinme:
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US Gov on shutdown 04 Oct 2013 01:28 #83

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Today. Ms Christine Lagarde
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24384759
In a speech looking ahead to a decade of challenges for the world economy, Ms Lagarde said that the US government needed to fix its finances for the long term.

She said it was "mission critical" that the US agrees a new debt ceiling.
note the complete and total cognitive dissonance in that :facepalm:

Um, I might offer them my cat. He's got the brains to work that one out :roll:
And he regularly falls off the couchy thing.
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US Gov on shutdown 04 Oct 2013 09:28 #84

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US Banks Stuffing ATMs With 20-30% More Cash In Case Of Panicked Withdrawals
Even as the fearmongering over the debt ceiling hits proportions not seen since 2011 (when it was the precipitous drop in the market that catalyzed a resolution in the final minutes, and when four consecutive 400 point up and down DJIA days cemented the deal - a scenario that may be repeated again), some banks are taking things more seriously, and being well-aware that when it comes to banks, any initial panic merely perpetuates more panic, have taken some radical steps. The FT reports that "two of the country’s 10 biggest banks said they were putting into place a “playbook” used in August 2011 when the government last came close to breaching the debt ceiling. One senior executive said his bank was delivering 20-30 per cent more cash than usual in case panicked customers tried to withdraw funds en masse. Banks are also holding daily emergency meetings to discuss other steps, including possible free overdrafts for customers reliant on social security payments from the government."

The problem with bank runs is that often times, steps taken to mitigate future panics become self-fulfilling prophecies.

Hopefully this is not one of those cases. Then again, since increasingly fewer Americans actually have money in deposit and savings accounts with banks, there is likely nothing to worry about.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-03/us-ban...panicked-withdrawals

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US Gov on shutdown 04 Oct 2013 18:09 #85

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It will be a self-fulfilling prophecy if that's publicised in the MSM.
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US Gov on shutdown 05 Oct 2013 01:34 #86

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knobmeup wrote:
Today. Ms Christine Lagarde
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24384759
In a speech looking ahead to a decade of challenges for the world economy, Ms Lagarde said that the US government needed to fix its finances for the long term.

She said it was "mission critical" that the US agrees a new debt ceiling.
note the complete and total cognitive dissonance in that :facepalm:

Um, I might offer them my cat. He's got the brains to work that one out :roll:
And he regularly falls off the couchy thing.

Amazing isn't it? :D
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US Gov on shutdown 05 Oct 2013 07:48 #87

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What confuddles me is that millions of families are used to living with credit. I certainly know what Ms dub would say if I came home and said,
"great news scrumpkin, I've worked out how we can sort out our finances for the long term. I'm gonna get the credit card limits upped".,,,

And if by some teeny weeny chance she went along with it once, I think I can guess what she might say if I went back 6 months later and said the same thing...

Credit is not a rare thing now is it. Why can't folk see that our 'leaders' have already bankrupt us? That the only reason any thing gets done by them is that they have croney mates who keep upping the credit card limit?

This beneficiary of DSK's humiliation, the head of the IMF, can't see what families all across the Western World understand?
Really?
Really really?
Course not, she knows it. It's just that she has been put there to help the implosion. Tbh DSK weren't up to it...
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US Gov on shutdown 06 Oct 2013 09:49 #88

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Have you seen this. I think Obama's got a God complex.

Government Shutdown: Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown

October 5, 2013


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Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown. more@breitbart 13:30

fisherynation.com/archives/15717

What a set of wankers.
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US Gov on shutdown 06 Oct 2013 17:20 #89

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You gotta love Jesse..... :D

The irony of Jesse Ventura calling for a new "American Revolution" in a conversation with Brit Piers Morgan is not lost on us but the former Governor of Minnesota asks some awkwardly open questions in this 'colorful' interview. Ventura asked if the government's shut down, "That should mean we shouldn't have to pay any taxes, right?" He called for another American revolution to push back against the "corrupt system" created by Democrats and Republicans in Washington. He told Morgan the two-party system has legalized "bribery" for access, suggesting he's fed up enough to actually run for president in 2016. Ventura called both parties "gangs," and Morgan admitted he had to agree, adding that they're "overpaid, underworked children!" The discussion then veers from Obamacare, Ventura's run for President, and the JFK conspiracy.
www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-05/jesse-...ainst-corrupt-system
Amazed he went back on Morgan's prog!
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US Gov on shutdown 07 Oct 2013 00:41 #90

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Gilly wrote:
Have you seen this. I think Obama's got a God complex.

Government Shutdown: Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown

October 5, 2013


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Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown. more@breitbart 13:30

fisherynation.com/archives/15717

What a set of wankers.

Its a shame they can't stop radiation flowing into the sea at Fukushima
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US Gov on shutdown 08 Oct 2013 12:04 #91

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Congress flies blind during shutdown with deficit of budget reports

Not clear if money is saved or lost

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/7/...data-lawmakers-coul/

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US Gov on shutdown 10 Oct 2013 15:27 #92

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DICTATORIAL POWERS FOR OBAMA?
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US Gov on shutdown 10 Oct 2013 16:08 #93

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DICTATORIAL POWERS FOR OBAMA?

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US Gov on shutdown 11 Oct 2013 23:09 #94

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Shutdown news gossips




PLEASE READ AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY
FEEDING YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY AS WELL
AS GAS IN YOUR CAR IS AT STAKE HERE ….

Trucker Strike – buy what you need NOW!

BEST to be PREPARED
Even if it turns out that it will NOT be NEEDED

Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM -

Trucker Strike - buy what you need now
from Facebook :
Everyone needs to stock up on food and gas this week ….. have enough to do u for at least 5-10 days ….
we truckers r going on strike shutting down USA
we r going to show the government who is the back bone of this country
SO PLEASE TAKE MY ADVICE
STOCK UP ON FOOD AND GAS …..
don’t spend no money on OCT 11-13
at least maybe we can get something done for our country
fly ur flags and show the ten commandments….
please help us
u dont have to b a trucker to do this …
They then suggest what readers can do to help, even if they are not truckers:

– Don’t spend one penny during these dates and watch this country turn around.

They offer information for those that do not know.

– Stores only have enough food in their warehouse for 3 days.

The email concludes:

SO THINK ABOUT IT…..
SO PLEASE DO AS I ASK…..

I WOULDN’T LEAD U WRONG
IF U SEE A TRUCKER PARKED N THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD
DON’T YELL AT HIM!
THEY R ON STRIKE AND WE R NOT GOING TO MOVE
THEM EITHER UNTIL THINGS CHANGE….

PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR US TRUCKERS…
ALWAYS KNOW IF U GOT IT
A TRUCKER BROUGHT IT NO MATTER WHAT IT IS

I KNOW U ALL DON’T LIKE US
WE GET N UR WAY BUT
OUR JOB IS VERY HARD… AND STRESSFUL. ….
SO PLEASE STAND BY US
WE R UR BACK BONE OF UR COUNTRY
IF WE DON’T RUN - U DONT’ EAT……….
SHOW UR RESPECT FOR WHAT WE DO 4 U
SHOW UR CONCERN FOR THE CURRENT STATE OF THIS ONCE GREAT NATION
STAND WITH US
AND SHOW THE ENEMIES IN DC THAT U R WATCHING
AND WAITING FOR THEM TO TAKE NOTE
AND TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE CHANGES TO RETURN
OUR NATION TO ‘WE THE PEOPLE’….

THE NEW 4th OF JULY…..WAIT AND SEE….


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US Gov on shutdown 11 Oct 2013 23:57 #95

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CAPS LOCK, always a sign of a calm rational thinker in my experience.

That up there won't happen chandrakavi mate, it's just another of those bits of shit that fly around facebook.
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US Gov on shutdown 12 Oct 2013 00:34 #96

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God Bless Facebook.
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You know what, now that I've seen stuff like that on Facebook and I can see for myself what a toll our nationalised industries is actually having on the country, I think privatisation is the way forward! I can't believe I never thought of it before, in fact.

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US Gov on shutdown 12 Oct 2013 02:38 #98

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WASHINGTON -- A coalition of tea party truck drivers is planning a government shutdown demonstration on the Capital Beltway that rings Washington.

"Truckers Ride For The Constitution" -- known as "Truckers To Shutdown America" before their original Facebook page was shut down -- plans to clog the Interstate 495 inner loop from Oct. 11 to Oct. 13.

The truckers said they hope to create enough of a backup on the highway to express their frustration with the "lawlessness" of members of Congress "who refuse to work on behalf of the American people."

"It has become apparent that our elected official [sic] will never respond to the will of the people as long as their greed wealth is not jeopardized," the demonstration organizers said in a press release. "The only thing that motivates every politician is their money -- cutting off their money-flow cuts off their life-blood. The Independent Truckers in the United States essentially keep commerce flowing for benefit of the central government.”

The group went on to list other grievances, saying truckers are "strangled with regulations" and the government "now support Al Qaeda."

The coalition of independent truckers has been planning the event since mid-September. The original page listed their plans for the October strike as such: "Truck drivers will not haul freight! Workers will call in sick! Consumers will not buy or sell anything on this date! Stay home! Buy nothing!"

Earl Conlon, a trucker from Georgia organizing the logistics of the demonstration, told U.S. News that the group isn't calling for impeachment, just the arrest of members of Congress involved in the government shutdown. He identified House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) as two of his targets.

"We want these people arrested, and we're coming in with the grand jury to do it," Conlon told U.S. News. "We are going to ask the law enforcement to uphold their constitutional oath and make these arrests. If they refuse to do it, by the power of the people of the United States and the people's grand jury, they don't want to do it, we will. ... We the people will find a way."

UPDATE -- 10/8 2:57 p.m.: Conlon told the Washington Post on Tuesday he may not even make it to D.C. on Friday, :facepalm: saying his comments to U.S. News were only meant to "stir the feather of the mainstream media."

“Nothing gets the attention of the mainstream media like some sort of disastrous threat. I knew it was going to ruffle some feathers," Conlon said.

Conlon clarified that truckers won't intentionally shut down traffic this weekend, though some may travel along the inner loop of the Beltway and honk their horns. Conlon said it "wouldn't be fair" to the people of D.C. "to lock down the city by the Belt loop."

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Yup Earl has a mullet. All boxes checked. :blkcheck:
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US Gov on shutdown 12 Oct 2013 03:20 #99

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The trucker protest of Washington D.C. is being canceled by Earl Conlon because the government shutdown threat apparently was never intended to be taken literally.
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[UPDATE] The official Truckers Ride For The Constitution organization claims Earl Conlon does not represent their organization and his ideas for a trucker protest are completely separate from their own. The official Ride For The Constitution will still proceed as planned and is not canceled.

As previously reported by The Inquisitr, the trucker protest as proposed by Earl Conlon threatened to shut down Washington beltway traffic and arrest Congressmen.

The plan was to line up semi-trucks across three lanes and drive just at the 55 MPH speed limit. The trucker protest would have lasted three days according to Georgia-based Earl Conlon, who is himself not a truck driver. If police had interfered with these government shutdown protest plans Conlon recommended truckers locking up the brakes and causing a three lane roadblock.

But it turns out Earl Conlon’s big talk about a trucker protest was only talk. Conlon says the trucker protest is officially canceled:

“The comments to U.S. News were designed to do one thing and one thing only: stir the feather of the mainstream media. Nothing gets the attention like the mainstream media, like some sort of disastrous threat. I knew it was going to ruffle some feathers.”

Earl Conlon also points out that clogging up the Washington D.C. beltway would have harmed the average joe and he says it “wouldn’t be fair to the people there.” Conlon is still considering making a trip to Washington this weekend for the Truckers Ride Tor The Constitution event.

Of course, nothing prevents the trucker protest from proceeding without Earl Conlon. Despite Truckers Ride For The Constitution not supporting such ideas, any truckers may choose to protest the 2013 government shutdown with a little bit of civil disobedience. Now Earl Conlon can reasonably tell any men in black suits showing up at his door that he has nothing to do with it.

What a complete clusterfuck eh? :usa: :pop:
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US Gov on shutdown 12 Oct 2013 09:22 #100

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So a truck driver called Earl who sports a mullet and is a trucker from Georgia (no less) has his first book published

Does anybody remember Joe the Plumber who wasn't really a plumber and isn't called Joe. Well, Samuel Wurzelbacher (the "regular Joe") works for Koch and co.
Dezenhall Resources, an aggressive lobbying and public relations firm, has paid Joe the Plumber at least $10,000 in speaking fees. Although Dezenhall does not disclose its clients, they have worked in the past for the payday lending industry, the American Chemistry Council (which represents firms like DuPont), and Eli Lilly, the drug company. Greenpeace alleges that Dow Chemical hired Dezenhall to plant spies within its organization. Dezenhall paid Wurzelbacher two years in a row. – Americans for Prosperity, the group financed in part by the billionaire Koch brothers and led by the astroturf lobbyist Tim Phillips, has paid Joe the Plumber at least $32,000. – Churchill Strategies, a “design and branding” company, paid Joe the Plumber $4,000. – Friends of Herman Cain, the committee supporting Herman Cain for President, paid Joe the Plumber $10,000 to speak. - See more at: www.republicreport.org/2012/joe-the-plum...sthash.vQEGeyV5.dpuf

So from a Plumber called Joe to a Trucker called Earl, what's the betting that Earl is hauling more than white goods in his truck?

Well judging from the publisher of his book, PublishAmerica.....
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