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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 00:45 #1

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www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/...t-a-job-8893763.html
A Conservative MP told a one-legged drug addict in a wheelchair begging outside Parliament to 'get a job'.

The Daily Mail reports that Daniel Kawczynski 'admonished' the man for begging and told him that help was available to people in his situation through a Government scheme.

Mr Kawczynski was heard saying to Mark McGuigan, "get a job, find some work. Yes, I know it is hard, I have struggled too."

Speaking about the incident, which reportedly occurred on 7 October outside Westminster underground station, Mr McGuigan said that the 6ft 8in ministerial aide made him feel small and humiliated, before adding that he had spoken out in order to 'name and shame' Mr Kawczynski.

Speaking to the newspaper, the MP for Shrewsbury and Atcham said that he only wanted to help the man back into work, before adding: "There are better and more productive ways for helping people spend their time."

Describing what happened, Mr McGuigan, from Bermondsey, South London, said, "He told me to stop begging and to get a job. He made me feel really small. He was so sanctimonious.

"I can't get a job. I can barely read and write. Look at me, I am missing a leg. I said that to him but he just started getting more and more aggressive. It was horrible.

"I felt very intimidated by the way he was leaning over me saying, 'Get a job, get a job'. He was towering over me."

Mr Kawczynski, an aide to Welsh Secretary David Jones, said he did not recall using the words attributed to him but added that he did think a man asking him for money should be challenged on why he was not looking for work.

"He asked me for money so I asked him what he was doing to find a job. He said, 'I can’t get a job'", Mr Kawczynski said.

"He had difficulties in literacy and numeracy. I told him there were Government initiatives to help him with this. I said to him, 'If you let me know where you live I can help'."

Mr McGuigan, a father of one who grew up in Peckham in south London told the paper of his family background, adding, "I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth like most MPs.

"My parents were alcoholics, my brothers were burglars, my sisters were on the drink at an early age. My mother had six kids to look after, and I was the youngest. We didn't have a bath, we had an outside toilet."

The paper reports that Mr McGuigan's drinking and drug use began when he was 17 years old. His leg had to be amputated ten years ago after he contracted septicemia from heroin use.
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 00:57 #2

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I find negative words spoken to under privileged people by over privileged people always help the situation.

The Conservative MP should have added go and win the lottery just to be that little bit more helpful.

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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 09:24 #3

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A tory immigrant eh? :D
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 12:01 #4

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just learn to read and write and become a best selling author
my limbless friend will die alone
a torso of flesh upon the throne

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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 12:34 #5

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batou wrote:
just learn to read and write and become a best selling author

This particular MP hires uni 'interns' on minimal pay to write stuff for him.
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 12:52 #6

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i hire former fox news trolls to handle this account and my guevarista account.
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 21:21 #7

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Nice...

I'm not in the business of completely absolving folk of their own personal responsibility for their choices and actions but hey, come on now, some folk are born into lives that present them with a distinct disadvantage from the off. This chap is clearly one of those people. A caring society would help him put the past behind him and learn how to make better choices for himself and everyone else.

Government initiatives...???...Government initiatives are there to help folk like McGuigan...???...The bare faced fucking cheek :mad: It's governments that have and do create the social conditions that lead folk down this sort of route ffs. Does anyone honestly think folk would make the choices McGuigan's folks did and live the way they did (and do?) if....and it's a fucking big if...there weren't a succession of governments making their own 'choices' that force many many folk to live in poverty? Overcrowded, boxed in, forgotten about (until they emerge and cause 'trouble'), with the only hope of escape being fucking X factor?
Would folk resort to escaping via hard drugs if they were given real opportunity and encouragement to "create their own reality" from the day they were born by society as a whole?
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 22:23 #8

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knobmeup wrote:
Government initiatives...???...Government initiatives are there to help folk like McGuigan...???...The bare faced fucking cheek :mad: It's governments that have and do create the social conditions that lead folk down this sort of route ffs. Does anyone honestly think folk would make the choices McGuigan's folks did and live the way they did (and do?) if....and it's a fucking big if...there weren't a succession of governments making their own 'choices' that force many many folk to live in poverty? Overcrowded, boxed in, forgotten about (until they emerge and cause 'trouble'), with the only hope of escape being fucking X factor?
People like this spend so long spouting the same old crap, surrounded by people spouting the same old crap, being told by higher ranked people who also spout the same old crap to spout the same old crap, and being told by yes (wo)men that the same old crap that they're spouting smells like roses, that they end up believing it.
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 22:58 #9

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
People like this spend so long spouting the same old crap, surrounded by people spouting the same old crap, being told by higher ranked people who also spout the same old crap to spout the same old crap, and being told by yes (wo)men that the same old crap that they're spouting smells like roses, that they end up believing it.

I don't think they even question it in the first place tbh wub. At all levels of politico. Those that do, don't get on. They obviously weren't made for the job :roll:
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 22 Oct 2013 23:36 #10

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I don't think they even question it in the first place tbh wub. At all levels of politico. Those that do, don't get on. They obviously weren't made for the job :roll:
Well, this is true for some. Ever seen the letter from Tony Blair to Michael Foot?:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1521418/...en-in-July-1982.html

He obviously ended up saying completely different things when it was politic for him to do so. So you get a mixture of the careerist, the sociopath and the idiot in politics. It's a good group.
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 23 Oct 2013 00:13 #11

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Mmm....Just how did TB go from a starry eyed, over priviliged, well read and marx influenced Oxford graduate to international war criminal? :dunno:

The only answer can be that he was one all along, no?
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 23 Oct 2013 00:45 #12

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
knobmeup wrote:
I don't think they even question it in the first place tbh wub. At all levels of politico. Those that do, don't get on. They obviously weren't made for the job :roll:
Well, this is true for some. Ever seen the letter from Tony Blair to Michael Foot?:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1521418/...en-in-July-1982.html

He obviously ended up saying completely different things when it was politic for him to do so. So you get a mixture of the careerist, the sociopath and the idiot in politics. It's a good group.

I like how he opens telling him not to bother replying... typical Blair!
Basically, now you listen to me....
I thought at one point Mike had written it, going on about teh bourgeois...
then closes by telling him that 'a close friend' (whose name I can't remember)... how many close friends names can't you remember?!
He also mentions Gerard Manley Hopkins at the end.... possibly the worst & most boring fucking poet ever.
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One-Legged, Illiterate, Homeless Drug Addict? Simple...Get a Job 23 Oct 2013 09:45 #13

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knobmeup wrote:
Mmm....Just how did TB go from a starry eyed, over priviliged, well read and marx influenced Oxford graduate to international war criminal? :dunno:

The only answer can be that he was one all along, no?

I can't stand marxists anyway :D
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I like how he opens telling him not to bother replying... typical Blair!
Basically, now you listen to me....
I thought at one point Mike had written it, going on about teh bourgeois...
then closes by telling him that 'a close friend' (whose name I can't remember)... how many close friends names can't you remember?!
He also mentions Gerard Manley Hopkins at the end.... possibly the worst & most boring fucking poet ever.
Cunt!
I cannot imagine a slimier twat. What sort of person writes to someone and says "I'm not writing this to be impertinent or sycophantic". Well, obviously you are!
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
I like how he opens telling him not to bother replying... typical Blair!
Basically, now you listen to me....
I thought at one point Mike had written it, going on about teh bourgeois...
then closes by telling him that 'a close friend' (whose name I can't remember)... how many close friends names can't you remember?!
He also mentions Gerard Manley Hopkins at the end.... possibly the worst & most boring fucking poet ever.
Cunt!
I cannot imagine a slimier twat. What sort of person writes to someone and says "I'm not writing this to be impertinent or sycophantic". Well, obviously you are!

He was basically whining about the so called 'militants' who are ofc the trade unions, hence why we got NEU-Labour.
Unions were ofc a complete waste of time, even more pointless now.
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