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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 18:19 #1

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Girl seen by many as latest victim of austerity as family, unable to pay electricity bills, resorts to unsafe method to heat home.

A 13 year-old girl has died of suspected carbon monoxide poisoning in the Xirokrini district of the northern city of Thessaloniki.

According to reports the girl, a Serbian national, lived together with her mother, who is unemployed, in a home without electricity.

In order to keep warm in temperatures that dropped to the low single digits, with no other source of heating the pair lit an open brazier yesterday evening. Fumes from the brazier caused the mother to pass out at around 10pm. She regained consciousness at about 11pm at which point she found her daughter unconscious.

An ambulance was called but paramedics were unable to save the young girl. A coroner at the scene determined that inhalation of toxic fumes were the cause of her death.

It has been reported that the mother has been placed under arrest although it is unclear under what charges.

In recent years the number of Greek households who cannot afford power and / or heating has risen sharply due to high levels of unemployment and increased taxation on heating oil and electricity bills.

Cutbacks and the high cost of heating oil has also left many schools unable to afford heating, with local authorities recently closing schools in some northern districts in the face of freezing temperatures.
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 20:56 #2

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That's shitty. I hope that things get sorted for the mother as expediently as possible. :(
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 21:16 #3

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I read this before, and got to feeling a bit overwhelmed by all the shit going on across the globe. That poor kid. Heaven help her mum, who's got that unbearable loss to cope with, along side the poverty, and the police.
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 21:20 #4

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a braizer is if i'm correct in thinking, a coal fire/bbq thing indoors?

Most people know not to start open fires indoors without ventilation (chimneys) surely?

It has been suggested that many chimneys were blocked/sealed to prevent people having open fires indoors so they have to rely on electric or gas supplied by utility companies, I complete believe this


The price peole are having to pay to power companies are stupid, actually beyond stupid

But most people's logical moves would be to wear more clothes, wrap a downy round, make a hot water bottle....not make a big dangerous bonfire in the middle of the living room!

Could it be possible the mum in question wanted to to sort of commit suicide and take her and daughter?
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 21:23 #5

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It's possible, but I think unlikely because of her calling he emergency services for her when she found her unconscious.
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 21:38 #6

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and I'm asking about the suicide aspect as having lost someone to suicide I attended a bereavement group and the most common suicide method was deliberate carbon monoxide poisoning
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 22:22 #7

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dawnbreak wrote:
and I'm asking about the suicide aspect as having lost someone to suicide I attended a bereavement group and the most common suicide method was deliberate carbon monoxide poisoning

Yes and a common method is using a disposable barby.

Personally, I don't think that's the case here though. It sounds like they were cold & just wanted some warmth... but obviously the method was sadly, slightly naive.

Having to worry about the costs of heating and electric in this day and age is totally unpalatable.
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 22:57 #8

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Space Bandit wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:
Having to worry about the costs of heating and electric in this day and age is totally unpalatable.

Indeed

but worrying about the costs of heating and electric is not a new thing.
Privation of energy companies has ramped up the costs however they have always taken up a huge chunk of a persons income

However I can not think of reason why you would light an open fire in your living room without ventilation.

Did the mum not get alerted by the amount of smoke filling up her room?
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 02 Dec 2013 23:00 #9

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oh it's really toasty but <cough> where are you<cough> I can't see you through all the smoke<cough>
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 03 Dec 2013 00:59 #10

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Its just called being cold and stupid dawn.
There's not much they could do about either issue but there are others who could have.
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Thirteen year old girl dies from carbon monoxide poisoning in home without electricity 03 Dec 2013 11:45 #11

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!It has been reported that the mother has been placed under arrest although it is unclear under what charges."

This has been done before - deflect political/economic responsibility and blame an individual. :mad:
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