Steevo wrote:
I don't look to destroy the DI Forum... but I would really like them to stop turning people into right-wing extremists and hateful anti-Semites; with the cooperation and support from the people who run it.

irrepressible wrote: One of them is "users will not throw their PS3 controllers against the wall in a fit of pique, thus rendering them useless".

Apart from that, Irre, your behaviour is exemplary!

It does sorta sound like there is an agenda playing out here. Maybe I'm wrong. I dont know.

Flyermay wrote:


I think I made it clear why I quoted your post. To be honest it was a one liner that was quoted which doesn't leave much margin of error. Much of the content and the attitudes aren't particularly in line with the intended spirit this place was created in.

The point of the post was not aimed specifically at any one individual which I have also made clear. How people apply what I wrote to their individual involvement is a matter for them to resolve. Regardless of how people view themselves other people may not share the same view. What I mean by that is just because someone doesn't think they have been vulgar, vile, bullying, extreme, hypocritical, close minded or aggressive etc etc etc. Doesn't mean that other people don't see shit for what it is.

The list of options is just a list of negative words that came to mind, the order or the content of the list is not a reflection of what has transpired in this thread, and could be applied to any thread where similar traits are present.

Steevo wrote:
One thing is allowing pro-Nazis and anti-Semites to post whatever they like because they have "free speech", and another very different thing is helping them, removing posts that contradict them, issuing warnings and bans against those who confront them, and basically giving them an exclusive platform to spread their hatred.

Consider this: no one insults and breaks the rules more than them -it only takes posting evidences against them to be insulted-... but it's we who got banned. Look at most people posting on this thread, we were all banned for confronting anti-Semitism and Nazism on the DI Forum.

Frog wrote:
I understood all that the first time... what's puzzling me is exactly where you particularly found any of those things in our posts (if it also includes my posts).

I know people perceive other people in different ways; and I know people perceive me in different ways (I don't want to know what they are saying about me on the DIF right now)... but I'm asking about you; your comment regarding this particular thread.

Resuming... I found your post vague and puzzling, and am I asking you why you said that (not how others perceive me)... you.

I don't think that's an unreasonable question... I think I have the right to know exactly what I'm being accused of (or our group)... or if I'm not in that group.

Flyermay wrote:
What if people have infultrated the Icke forum, and made loads of posts which were pro-Nazi ?Then that would mean that Icke's "reputation" would have been destroyed by infultrators. It doesnt seem right, it's like a set up. Just a thought.

Steevo wrote:
And what's that to do with Sean and I_am backing the whole operation, ultimately banning all of us (because it's they who have the last word), and making excuses to keep on fomenting hatred against the Jews (even when it's against their own rules)?

I can't say anything about Icke, and until recently I didn't even suspect about Sean and I_am; but what other explanation would you find to what they are doing?

I'm open to hear suggestions and other theories; I said it before.

Flyermay wrote:
Who cares REALLY ? It's just a bloody forum.

Steevo wrote:
I do... if someone is spreading hatred, specially against any minority, and specially such a nasty and irrational type of hatred as anti-Semitism, I care; whether it's a forum, a newspaper, a political party, or just a club.

I don't need to wait until they start targeting me to care, because I know it will lead there sooner or later.

Flyermay wrote:
What about hatred of muslims on the mainstream media ? Are you gonna report that ? And North Koreans ? etc etc

This stinks.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Haha! yeah...

Poor pad... As soon as it was gone, I wanted to play something...I smashed my crutch Nah, I don't miss games...much

Steevo wrote:
If it ever gets to the levels anti-Semitism got on the DI Forum, of course I will... but still quite a long time until it reaches that point; if it does.

Flyermay wrote:
The one line I quoted was a statement which made a point about members here being free to post what they wanted and the community would moderate themselves. The rules here are quite clear and readly accessible to everyone. There are also guide lines which are also clear and explain what is considered to be good conduct and in keeping with the spirit of the place.

You were not accused of anything no one was directly implicated which has been said more than once in response to your enquirers. If people are happy that they have posted within the spirit of the place then there should be no concern on their part. If they are unsure then maybe they should attempt to change their approach (a moment of personal reflection). Everyone else will have formed their own opinions regardless of the opinion one has of ones self. The point I'm making is that one should try and be honest with themselves no one else can do that for them. Its how self moderation works and establishes personal responsibility which is a big part of what this place should be about.

Bigotry is bigotry, racism is racism, homophobia is homophobia, misogyny is misogyny, anti semitism is anti semitism, etc. etc. It's all shit, propagated by pitiful people.
So much hate and bitterness... Wtf is wrong with people. It's like some join forums to spread shit.
People with agendas bug me...especially when they're hidden/thinly veiled.

I'm here to have fun, and discuss a wide range of subjects with a wide range of people. When I signed up to the DIF I didn't expect to see so much negative shite.

What am I trying to say? I'm way past my bedtime...

I suppose what I'm trying to say is, why is one brand of hatred and bigotry worse than another? It should all be treated and shunned equally.

Is that what I'm trying to say?... fuck it, bedtime I don't know wtf I'm trying to say

Ah my point!

This gaff is going a bit DIF at the mo, that displeases me. I'm seeing the same old merry go round shite as I did over on there.

irrepressible wrote:

Flyermay wrote:
There are levels? Humm interesting how are these levels set and who is it exactly that sets these levels? I wonder if Muslims are in agreement with the levels that are being set for them. What is the Ratio? I'm fascinated by this concept as you may have guessed.

Frog wrote:
Well, basically, when they start calling them, not only an inferior sub-race as the Nazis did, but a totally new sub-human species of Homo-Sapiens and Neanderthal, and begin with the calls for their total extermination, that means they have reached a whole new lever... the same level in which the DI Forum is today.

Hope this helps.

I saw a lot of muslim bashing on the DIF. I'd say it's probably almost as bad as the jew bashing. I did a Muslim thread myself, I have my reasons that I won't go into here, and I was pissed off with Muslims because I was a bit indoctrinated, I don't mind admitting. Then the usual crew turned up and I told them "this is not a hate thread" They were gracious enough to depart at that point actually. Then there was the gay bashing. I remember arguing the toss for hours/days with KOTG in his "being gay is the same as incest and bestiality" thread
For a forum that is supposed to be about awakening and "remembering who we are" it was filled with all kinds of nasty shit.
I don't think it's right to single out anti semitism as the worst form of bigotry/racism/hate, whatever, the whole fucking gaff is an ocean of bigotry/racism/hate. There are still a lot of good people there though and good threads. It's a shame you've got to wade through a load of shite to find them.