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Re: The mormons and money 13 Jul 2012 09:58 #21

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If Mitt Romney becomes president, then maybe we have an antichrist scenario

With John Bolton as his chief foreign policy advisor even I would say you're on the money there..

I didn't know that about John Bolton, thanks andyh.

Is this a lead up to the biblical story of Armageddon with the Mormons as front runner's, I wonder.

Absolutely, totally accurate boots, quite literally.
It ties in with everything, the transhumanism, the same motive for armageddon etc etc.

I'm wondering if good decent people have to get violent to stop this.
The whole carry on now is so ridiculous and insane, so many people just won't wake up to it, they think it just can't be real.
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Re: The mormons and money 16 Jul 2012 22:55 #22

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andyh wrote:
Boots wrote:
andyh wrote:
41djbrooks wrote:
If Mitt Romney becomes president, then maybe we have an antichrist scenario

With John Bolton as his chief foreign policy advisor even I would say you're on the money there..

I didn't know that about John Bolton, thanks andyh.

Is this a lead up to the biblical story of Armageddon with the Mormons as front runner's, I wonder.

Absolutely, totally accurate boots, quite literally.
It ties in with everything, the transhumanism, the same motive for armageddon etc etc.

I'm wondering if good decent people have to get violent to stop this.
The whole carry on now is so ridiculous and insane, so many people just won't wake up to it, they think it just can't be real.

These guy's like to work in the shadows andyh so no one will know what's happening till it's to late.

www.raidersnewsupdate.com/leadstory131.htm
Unfortunately, there has been very little written on transhumanism within conservative evangelical circles. There is a Mormon Transhumanist association, which is hardly surprising in light of their polytheism and apotheosis doctrine.[3] On the popular level, there are two websites authored by a Nuclear Operations Instructor, James Ledford, called Technical-Jesus.com and HyperEvolution.com as well as a self-published book all of which promote “Christian Transhumanism.”[4] Paul Tillich is frequently cited in support. Lately, transhumanism has found theological justification in the work of ELCA Lutheran theologians like Phillip Hefner, Ted Peters and others. In fact, the Lutheran journal Dialog offered an entire issue on the subject in their winter 2005 edition.[5] The mission of the Lutheran’s seems to be a well-intended one of building a bridge between science and faith. They are welcomed in largely secular arenas and their work is being taken quite seriously. Unfortunately, with the exception of Thomas Horn, conservative Christian voices are not being heard albeit they are likely not welcome.[6] Bostrom, Hefner and Ledford argue that there is nothing wrong with a Christian adopting a transhumanist worldview.
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Five of the “radically adventuresome” Mormon beliefs include:

Theosis
Eternal Progression
A Progressing God
Compatibility of Science and Religion
Good Works.
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Re: The mormons and money 16 Jul 2012 22:57 #23

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Mormons in the news and on the net.

Deseret news Article - 6/28/12

Excerpts from the article:

When you spend much time studying coverage of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its relationship with the news media, you quickly realize that the church has always been in the news...

• Since June 1 of last year, there have been 13,116 articles in the U.S. press.

• Nearly 2,000 articles in the foreign language press.

• More than 2,500 U.S. television programs in the last year.

• The New York Times has had more than 400 articles. (That number exceeds 700 if you include the Times blog posts.)

• In the last six months, more than 2,700 articles in the English-language press outside of the United States, including nearly 100 mentions in the Times of London.

• Articles in English-language papers have spread across the world, from the Japan Times to Al-Arabiya to the Hindustan Times.

• The Washington Post has had more than 300 articles in the last year.

• The Associated Press has sent more than 500, depending on how you count AP stories.

• Finally, church members and Utahns are making a major contribution to the national conversation. Just under 30 percent of the news stories that mention Mormon in the national press come from either the Deseret News or from the Salt Lake Tribune.

With some extrapolation, if you tally the international press in English, the non-English publications, the U.S. news articles and TV transcripts, the number of Mormon mentions comes in at somewhere around 23,000 in the last year.

And this is only from, as Lexis-Nexis chooses to define it, the mainstream press. Blogs and personal postings are not included in this tally.

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Re: The mormons and money 16 Jul 2012 23:22 #24

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Apotheosis doctrine+transhumanism eh?
Now where I have seen that before? :)
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Re: The mormons and money 16 Jul 2012 23:32 #25

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Mormon's and Freemasons.

In the Spring of 2002 the LDS Church completed its reconstruction of the Nauvoo Temple in Illinois. It was originally built in the 1840's but was destroyed after the Mormons abandoned the town. Due to the publicity and photos regarding this new temple many people have asked about the symbols on the building.

Thesaltlaketemple P44


To understand the symbols one must first know something of Joseph Smith's involvement with Freemasonry. Joseph's brother, Hyrum, had been a Mason since the 1820's. Many other members of the LDS church, like Brigham Young, were Masons before they joined Mormonism. LDS historian Reed Durham observed:

"By 1840, John Cook Bennett, a former active leader in Masonry had arrived in Commerce [Nauvoo] and rapidly exerted his persuasive leadership in all facets of the Church, including Mormon Masonry. ... Joseph and Sidney [Rigdon] were inducted into formal Masonry...on the same day..." ("Is There No Help for the Widow's Son?" by Dr. Reed C. Durham, Jr., as printed in Joseph Smith and Masonry: No Help for the Widow's Son, Martin Pub. Co., Nauvoo, Ill., 1980, p. 17.)

Reed Durham further commented:

"I have attempted thus far to demonstrate that Masonic influences upon Joseph in the early Church history, preceding his formal membership in Masonry, were significant....In fact, I believe that there are few significant developments in the Church, that occurred after March 15, 1842, which did not have some Masonic interdependence." (Joseph Smith and Masonry: No Help for the Widow's Son, p.17)

The History of the Church records Smith's entrance into the Masonic lodge in 1842:

"Tuesday, 15.—I officiated as grand chaplain at the installation of the Nauvoo Lodge of Free Masons, at the Grove near the Temple. Grand Master Jonas, of Columbus, being present, a large number of people assembled on the occasion. The day was exceedingly fine; all things were done in order, and universal satisfaction was manifested. In the evening I received the first degree in Free Masonry in the Nauvoo Lodge, assembled in my general business office." (History of the Church, by Joseph Smith, Deseret Book, 1978, Vol.4, Ch.32, p.550-1)

The next day Smith recorded:

"Wednesday, March 16.—I was with the Masonic Lodge and rose to the sublime degree." (History of the Church, Vol.4, Ch.32, p.552)

The Mormon involvement in Freemasonry reached its heights during the early 1840's in Nauvoo. In the Encyclopedia of Mormonism we read:

"The introduction of Freemasonry in NAUVOO had both political and religious implications....Eventually nearly 1,500 LDS men became associated with Illinois Freemasonry, including many members of the Church's governing priesthood bodies—this at a time when the total number of non-LDS Masons in Illinois lodges barely reached 150." (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, vol.2, p.527)

The Salt Lake Tribune (May 4, 2002, p.C3) printed a picture of the original Nauvoo temple weather vane, which shows the Masonic symbol of the compass and square above the angel. Reporter Peggy Stack wrote:

"Every detail of the historic Nauvoo Temple was reconstructed [in the new Nauvoo temple] meticulously with one exception: the flying angel weather vane that graced the top of the 19th century Mormon edifice.

"In its place is the gold-leafed Angel Moroni, first used on the Salt Lake Temple,...

"Some speculate that the horizontal angel, with its compass and square, may be too closely associated with Masonic rituals for modern Mormons." (Salt Lake Tribune, May 4, 2002, p.C3)


"It is also obvious that the Nauvoo Temple architecture was in part, at least Masonically influenced. Indeed, it appears that there was an intentional attempt to utilize Masonic symbols and motifs. The sun stones, and the moon and star stones, were examples. An additional example was the angel used on the weather vane on the top of the Temple. [Above the angel] is a beautiful compass and square, in the typical Masonic fashion." (Joseph Smith and Masonry: No Help for the Widow's Son, p.18)

Reed Durham observed:

"There is absolutely no question in my mind that the Mormon ceremony which came to be known as the Endowment, introduced by Joseph Smith to Mormon Masons initially, just a little over one month after he became a Mason, had an immediate inspiration from Masonry....

Also you'll find these symbols on the church.
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www.utlm.org/onlineresources/masonicsymbolsandtheldstemple.htm
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Re: The mormons and money 16 Jul 2012 23:41 #26

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Apotheosis doctrine+transhumanism eh?
Now where I have seen that before? :)

Wouldn't be the cornerstone of the PTB would it? :umm:

Their up to their necks in it mate. :yup:
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Re: The mormons and money 17 Jul 2012 00:06 #27

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andyh wrote:
Apotheosis doctrine+transhumanism eh?
Now where I have seen that before? :)

in the matrix right?
my limbless friend will die alone
a torso of flesh upon the throne

Violence is not the answer, it is the question. the answer is yes.
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Re: The mormons and money 17 Jul 2012 09:48 #28

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batou wrote:
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Apotheosis doctrine+transhumanism eh?
Now where I have seen that before? :)

in the matrix right?

lol :D

Anyone remember the tv series caprica? :p

EDIT: Caprica is the TV series that went on about transhumanism (the birth of the cylons) and 'apotheosis' with rejection of the old Gods they had in place of this new faith derived from the VR world.
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Re: The mormons and money 17 Jul 2012 17:47 #29

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So , transhumanism means they think they gonna turn into gods? :killinme: :down: , silly wankers!

i was approached by two of them some months ago, and i told them the Southpark version, and one of them laughed as if he agreed... ( they both seemed such nice young blokes, too) ... do these young missionaries actually know what they are doing, or do they get brainwashed later on?

the whole Osmond family are Mormons... this is all so crazy, innit. :icke: :screwy:
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Re: The mormons and money 17 Jul 2012 17:59 #30

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So , transhumanism means they think they gonna turn into gods?

Absolutely yep! Batshit innit? :)
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Re: The mormons and money 17 Jul 2012 18:11 #31

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Oh , too batshit for words! Next time they come near me , i will ask them that. I dunno if the young lads actually get what they are doing as missionaries. ... :rofl: poor lil mis-informed chappies, i reckon they are. I just hope they dont become postal workers :( :O :hahano:
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Re: The mormons and money 17 Jul 2012 22:32 #32

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It's sad to see these young guy's out there doing what they think is the right thing to do, they are genuine in their beliefs but like everything they are compartmentalized and dont know the real objectives behind the hierarchy, they are brainwashed.
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Re: The mormons and money 19 Jul 2012 14:52 #33

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yep, they ride bikes and try to be good, ( their evil overlords probably ride in limo's with drivers)
this is just like that ep in the Simpsons, where Homer was sucked into a cult.

( the simpsons can be very educational if only the unwashed masses, heeeheee bad me, actually took notice of all the messages that are IN THEIR FACE... if only they would see.) :chuckle:
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Re: The mormons and money 19 Jul 2012 22:36 #34

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LOL yep the Simpsons do have a lot of Aha ha! moments. curtaincat.

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