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TOPIC: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn

Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn 23 Jul 2012 20:17 #21

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Whilst I wouldn't doubt or deny that the Rothschilds have an awful lot of fiat stashed away and off books through the havens, my research into Pompeygate showed me that there are many more from disparate backgrounds that similarly keep most of their wealth hidden from view in these places. This sort of thing transcends such publicly known allegiances as Zionism. The uniting factor (if there is one) between all these shady characters is basically greed. Backed up in no small part by a love of power.

Zionism is a party name for a certain ideology. It appears to be the "religion" of the very powerful people in the world. I just look at the Rothschilds and see their centuries old influence still at play. It is their revised model of usury that is still used today, and it's allowed the extremely rich and powerful to become even more wealthy. It's a great game for those at the top of the capstone. The game is rigged in favour of the psychopathic elite.
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Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn 23 Jul 2012 21:02 #22

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Super rich elite already looking for loopholes to help avoid being exposed for using loopholes
Super rich tax loopholes

After the government promised to name and shame wealthy people who use ‘aggressive’ tax avoidance schemes, users of ‘aggressive’ tax avoidance schemes have already begun looking for ‘aggressive’ exposure avoidance schemes.

Popular tax avoidance schemes, such as donating money to the Conservative Party so that loopholes remain open, are estimated to cost the economy billions.

The super rich have expressed their annoyance at the inconvenience of finding ways of avoiding being exposed for avoiding paying tax

“If the tax laws become too restrictive then I’ll have to take my enormous wealth elsewhere,” threatened one multi-millionaire.

“Technically I’ve already got my vast wealth elsewhere, but that’s not the point.”

“What’s important is making people think that they’d be worse off if I moved overseas.”
Super-rich loopholes

Accusations that the government’s plans are nothing but populist rhetoric designed to avoid actually closing tax loopholes exploited by some Tory donors have been dismissed by Downing Street.

“Suggestions that we’re trying to create the illusion of doing something while actually doing nothing are unfair,” insisted David Gauke, the minister with responsibility for tax matters.

“These schemes take money away from public services that help people who are the most in need.”

“While we appreciate the super rich trying to help, we’re perfectly capable of doing that all by ourselves.”

Read more: newsthump.com/2012/07/23/super-rich-elit...holes/#ixzz21TgdAqaX
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Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn 23 Jul 2012 21:21 #23

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ronisron wrote:

Zionism is a party name for a certain ideology. It appears to be the "religion" of the very powerful people in the world. I just look at the Rothschilds and see their centuries old influence still at play. It is their revised model of usury that is still used today, and it's allowed the extremely rich and powerful to become even more wealthy. It's a great game for those at the top of the capstone. The game is rigged in favour of the psychopathic elite.

My view is that the Rothschilds are a bit like the poster boys. They get a lot of attention but there are many others that go under the radar. When I started to follow the Pompey money I found that it led straight into a network of complete and utter wankers. Many were Zionists but far from all. The main "conspiracy" researchers largely seem to ignore the others for some reason.....
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Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn 23 Jul 2012 22:41 #24

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dubmeup wrote:
The main "conspiracy" researchers largely seem to ignore the others for some reason.....

Perhaps because its not entertaining enough to enthrall people and sell piles of subscriptions and books.
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Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn 23 Jul 2012 22:54 #25

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dubmeup wrote:
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Zionism is a party name for a certain ideology. It appears to be the "religion" of the very powerful people in the world. I just look at the Rothschilds and see their centuries old influence still at play. It is their revised model of usury that is still used today, and it's allowed the extremely rich and powerful to become even more wealthy. It's a great game for those at the top of the capstone. The game is rigged in favour of the psychopathic elite.

My view is that the Rothschilds are a bit like the poster boys. They get a lot of attention but there are many others that go under the radar. When I started to follow the Pompey money I found that it led straight into a network of complete and utter wankers. Many were Zionists but far from all. The main "conspiracy" researchers largely seem to ignore the others for some reason.....

It's just that no one else has outwardly assumed that leadership role, and TBH the Rothschilds seem to have moved into the "background" themselves. In recent history, and at least up until WWII, the Rothschilds were definitely at the top of the banking cartel. Maybe this was a part of the overall plan of these elite bankers -- They wanted to spread this around so as to not have a clear leader, hence why all of these no names and "wankers" appear in info searches now.
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Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn 24 Jul 2012 02:30 #26

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ronisron wrote:
It's just that no one else has outwardly assumed that leadership role, and TBH the Rothschilds seem to have moved into the "background" themselves. In recent history, and at least up until WWII, the Rothschilds were definitely at the top of the banking cartel. Maybe this was a part of the overall plan of these elite bankers -- They wanted to spread this around so as to not have a clear leader, hence why all of these no names and "wankers" appear in info searches now.

Let me put it this way. When I was following the Pompeygate trail, I had to work really really hard. The no name wankers were pretty darned invisible until I'd followed obscure leads on buried sites running from tax havens and other places. I had to go dozens of pages into search results before I got anywhere near to leads.
It's not all about bankers and financiers, I'm referring to a mega bucks network of seriously dodgy criminals doing seriously dodgy things and keeping pretty well out of sight. The banks and tax havens enable it for sure and the Rothschilds are instrumental in that but then so is the British Queen who owns 13 of the 24 big tax havens. The money being laundered and hidden is astronomical. I'd say it represents a global economy as big if not bigger than the one we are led to believe is the 'real'one.
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