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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 16:34 #21

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diamondgeezer wrote:

The hard way :D

I started playing bandits to win over 20 years ago, they of course were a lot less complex in their programming than they are today, and there wasn't a big 'network' of players as there is now. It was just me and a couple of mates going round Manchester city centre pubs every day, creaming off the easy money after watching a punter lose. And so we learnt as we went along, met other players doing the same thing etc. Other guys would empty the quiz machines back then, learn the Q&A's on em. Halcyon days...

I've always fancied being able to have them over but never found out where to get the info from. Never trusted the look of those 'learn how to play fruit machines' books.

Nope not quite...

As I understand it, all the virtual roulette machines in every branch of say, William Hill, are independent of each other as in what numbers they choose to land on etc, but they ARE linked to each other when it comes to percentage payout. For example, you could be playing in a William Hills in Manchester that hasn't paid out all day. Thats irrelevant...if a few people in London branches of William Hills have just had a big win, your machine up here will adjust its PP to reflect that, ie it won't pay until the whole network of the WH terminal system has took enough back to want to pay again.

Bear in mind though, I'm not completely clued up on virtual roulette (no-one is to my knowledge), so could be slightly wrong. These things are a completely different ballgame to pub fruit machines.

Try it out... as long as you press the button within the same time frame each machine will land on the same number. Happens every time.
I used to play red/black. Bet a quid on one, then if I lost I'd double the stake and bet on the last colour to come in. It worked really well most of the time...
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 17:00 #22

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Space Bandit wrote:
I've always fancied being able to have them over but never found out where to get the info from. Never trusted the look of those 'learn how to play fruit machines' books.

Yep those books are, on the whole, bollocks. At best, the info in them is so outdated as to be useless. Remember those ads in the back of Viz for gadgets to ''beat the fruity''? Radio frequency jammers and the like? They never worked either..

''rodding'' or ''strimming'' (inserting a device up the machines payout chute in order to trigger its payout mechanism) worked, and you could buy these devices, but of course with that you are crossing a big line into criminality. Never bothered with that meself...
Try it out… as long as you press the but­ton within the same time frame each machine will land on the same num­ber. Hap­pens every time.
I used to play red/​black. Bet a quid on one, then if I lost I’d dou­ble the stake and bet on the last colour to come in. It worked really well most of the time…

I will, ta ;)

Mate of mine (who started playing fruit machines with me back in the day, and still plays now) spent a lot of money trying to suss out the virtual roulette system. He gained a good knowledge of it, but eventually gave it up as unworkable, ie not viable. Perhaps he's wrong.

The first person to work out a workable scam/scheme on those will be a rich man..
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 18:02 #23

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diamondgeezer wrote:

Yep those books are, on the whole, bollocks. At best, the info in them is so outdated as to be useless. Remember those ads in the back of Viz for gadgets to ''beat the fruity''? Radio frequency jammers and the like? They never worked either..

''rodding'' or ''strimming'' (inserting a device up the machines payout chute in order to trigger its payout mechanism) worked, and you could buy these devices, but of course with that you are crossing a big line into criminality. Never bothered with that meself...

Yeh.. the monkey paw (?) thing I heard about worked apparently. I've also heard about some sort of fruit machine key that gives access to engineers parameters being touted about for a few hundred quid. All sounds a bit too ropey though...



I will, ta ;)

Mate of mine (who started playing fruit machines with me back in the day, and still plays now) spent a lot of money trying to suss out the virtual roulette system. He gained a good knowledge of it, but eventually gave it up as unworkable, ie not viable. Perhaps he's wrong.

The first person to work out a workable scam/scheme on those will be a rich man..

I've heard of people who've claimed such knowledge, but never met anybody who knows how to diddle it. If either of us find out, I'll make a pact now to impart the knowledge. :D
I usually bet using mathematical probablility rather than just picking some numbers & hoping for the best. Sometimes, when I'm doing red/black and betting on the colour that came in last, it will stay on the same colour 10-15 times. That's when I start upping the ante & get on a good roll. My mate knows where on the board, often to the number where the ball is going to land once you see where the ball comes out on the screen. Dedication. Always puts a few quid on 0. :D
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 18:04 #24

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Are these knowledgeable gamers a bit like the Masons then, dg? How do you recognise each other and what kind of reprisals can you expect for divulging holy secrets?

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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 18:17 #25

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unforunately the thought 'of getting a big win' is a big pull for people
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 18:24 #26

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diamondgeezer wrote:
Can’t under­stand why peo­ple defend mas­sive com­pa­nies rights to rip off gullible une­d­u­cated people/addicts,so called anar­chists defend­ing LTD com­pa­nies hahaha the truth is out.

*edit*....I wasn't doing that btw. As is obvious if you read my posts in this thread carefully.

It was aimed at andyh.
sounds more like a nimby :P
The little scam artist in my area put money in the roulette machine then cash out and get the ticket,scan the ticket at home and print another copy and try to cash one and feed the other back into the machines.LOL
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 18:35 #27

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Space Bandit wrote:
I've also heard about some sort of fruit machine key that gives access to engineers parameters being touted about for a few hundred quid. All sounds a bit too ropey though.

:D The refill key!

On Barcrest machines, it shows how much money is in the hopper, on a readout on the screen. For the engineers/operator guys benefit. Beneficial to a player to have that info too of course... ;)

I've heard that on JPM machines, the same key can be used to actually alter the machines programming, but cannot confirm that as fact personally.

I've still got one somewhere, will have a look for it. I'll send a cut copy free of charge to yourself if I find it. Its not illegal to insert a refill key btw. The keyhole on the machines is normally somewhere on the underside of the shelf above the payout tray, on the right. Run your fingers around under there and you'll find it.
I’ve heard of peo­ple who’ve claimed such knowl­edge, but never met any­body who knows how to did­dle it. If either of us find out, I’ll make a pact now to impart the knowl­edge. :D

Its a deal *shakes* :cool:
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 18:46 #28

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diamondgeezer wrote:
:D The refill key!

On Barcrest machines, it shows how much money is in the hopper, on a readout on the screen. For the engineers/operator guys benefit. Beneficial to a player to have that info too of course... ;)

I've heard that on JPM machines, the same key can be used to actually alter the machines programming, but cannot confirm that as fact personally.

I've still got one somewhere, will have a look for it. I'll send a cut copy free of charge to yourself if I find it. Its not illegal to insert a refill key btw. The keyhole on the machines is normally somewhere on the underside of the shelf above the payout tray, on the right. Run your fingers around under there and you'll find it.

Great!
I remember some old machines where you could peer into the machine to see how full the hopper was. Dead givaway whether it was worth playing or not.

Its a deal *shakes* :cool:

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We'll be rich in no time if we found a way... :D
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 19:16 #29

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humanspirit wrote:

It was aimed at andyh.

Pray tell...why would anarchists want to ban things? :D

Don't you need government for that and ermmm aren't anarchists against that kind of thing?
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 07 Aug 2012 19:18 #30

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Are these knowledgeable gamers a bit like the Masons then, dg? How do you recognise each other and what kind of reprisals can you expect for divulging holy secrets?

:hmm:

It used to be something you got into from both playing bandits and by making contact with and getting to know other people that played em Abs...at least thats how it was for me. But these days it is the latter only, ie you need to know the right people to start with. Playing and learning a bandits features isn't enough in itself anymore.

So yep, a bit Mason like in a way.

As for reprisals...well if I was still in the game and I was caught posting the stuff I have in this thread, I'd be out of the club, ostracised at best. At worst, who knows lol :D
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Re: British Losing £1 billion in Slot Machines 08 Aug 2012 20:26 #31

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Take for example a bandit that everyone who goes in a pub will have seen, 'Deal Or No Deal', themed on the TV gameshow with Noel Edmunds smarmy boat all over it. Its everywhere, huge machine. I'm reliably informed that there are over a hundred different programmes out for this one machine.

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When you get on the board on D o nD, is there any way to see what's in the box that's blacked out?
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diamondgeezer wrote:

Take for example a bandit that everyone who goes in a pub will have seen, 'Deal Or No Deal', themed on the TV gameshow with Noel Edmunds smarmy boat all over it. Its everywhere, huge machine. I'm reliably informed that there are over a hundred different programmes out for this one machine.

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When you get on the board on D o nD, is there any way to see what's in the box that's blacked out?

Not sure tbh, I don't play the thing....like I said, too many programmes out for it. Its become notoriously unreliable to take on. I'll ask my mate tho, he still has a pop on it.

One thing I do know for sure however...the cashpot is 'free'...ie its already been paid for, so taking the cashpot won't affect the mood of the machine. ;) ;) ;)
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