Sanctum Zone

Keyword
A+ A A-
Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
  • Page:
  • 1

TOPIC: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law

Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 15:22 #1

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
I just read about this today:

www.goal.com/en-gb/live-update/1194/cris...-ronaldo-live-debate
...the law has changed in Spain, and from now, Cristiano Ronaldo be taxed 52% of his salary when before it was only 23%.
This is slightly inaccurate, apparently foreign workers in Spain were taxed at a flat rate of 24% rate due to a law which was dubbed "The Beckham Law" due to the fact that Beckham was one of the first foreigners to take advantage of it. However, under 'austerity' arrangements in Spain, this law has now been repealed, and the top rate of tax in Spain is now set by the federal government. In Madrid this is 52%, but in Catalunya it is as high as 56%.

www.totalfootballmadness.com/2012/01/09/...-the-premier-league/
La Liga had been living a charmed life under the old ‘Beckham Law’, introduced just before the former Manchester United midfielder joined Real Madrid in 2003.

Under that system foreign players only paid 24 per cent tax – which was lifted in 2010 – and this has now been replaced with the new system, clearing the way for English clubs to compete on an even footing with their Spanish counterparts.

Jose Maria Gay, economics professor at the University of Catalunya, told The Sun: ‘Now foreign players will be more expensive.

‘Before, thanks to the cushy Beckham Law, we were among those who paid the least in that area and now we are among those who pay the most.

‘It is 54 per cent — 56 per cent in Catalunya. The repeal of the Beckham Law along with the rise in income tax is a bad joke.’

56% is a whole lot of moolah to concede, now TFM is no math magician but looking at Ronaldo’s 2011 income, he made $38 million, and assuming the tax law kicked in last year he would have had to pay $21,280,000 in taxes.
According to another source, Messi earnt roughly $41,500,000 dollars in 2011, so under Catalunya tax regulations, he would pay $23,240,000 in tax.

Now this may all seem fairly trivial, it is after all just some people who kick a ball around being paid what would appear to be far too much to do it. But it's quite incredible and disgusting to me that nearly three-fifths of the money that Messi earns - and he only commands that sort of market value owing to the fact that he's a total genius and works incredibly hard at maximising his performance - is ultimately being filtered into the Bank of International Settlements through the Spanish taxation system. There is more information on how this works and occurs in practice here:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/35279-To...orld-Debt.html#35336

Obviously Ronaldo and Messi still have a phenomenal lifestyle and a brilliant life, but ultimately they are still being bled dry by the same greedy parasites that offer nothing of value to the human race whatsoever. And the social controllers are so good at getting us to fight amongst ourselves that when these people express any dissatisfaction with this, they are only likely to attract opprobrium from people in the street, who have been taught that paying taxes is simply a part of life, and, of course, have never heard of the Bank of International Settlements. So you have a situation like the following:

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/oct/13/rafael-nadal-uk-tax-queens
The world No2, Rafael Nadal, will not play at next year's Aegon Championships at Queen's Club, his traditional warm-up event before Wimbledon, due to the UK's tax demands.

Nadal, who won the tournament in 2008, will instead compete in the Gerry Weber Open at Halle in Germany, where he will receive a reported £750,000. However, he insisted that the appearance fee was not behind his decision, which was instead forced by British tax laws, which oblige foreign athletes to pay tax on their worldwide endorsements.

Nadal told the Times: "I like to play in all the tournaments where they really want me. It is good for tennis. There is a big change in Halle, they have wanted me to be there for the last few years but I really wanted to play in Queen's.

"The truth is, in the UK you have a big regime for tax, it's not about the money for playing. They [HMRC] take from the sponsors, from Babolat, from Nike and from my watches. This is very difficult. I am playing in the UK and losing money. I did a lot more for the last four years, but it is more and more difficult to play in the UK."
...which is quite ridiculous when you think about it. I fully support Nadal. A tennis player signs a contract with Nike. He receives money for this for promoting their products. He gets off a plane and lands on a different landmass. An organisation to which he has no affiliation or link whatsoever demands money from him, so that they can 'keep the economy running' (although it's fucked beyond repair and they have shown absolutely no ability whatsoever to do this job competently). If he doesn't pay it, he'll probably end up in court. In any sane language it'd be called the fucking mafia, but we call it 'democracy'!
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
Last Edit: 03 Sep 2012 15:24 by wake_up_bomb.
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 15:49 #2

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
Well, the govt does need it to pay those bankers their welfare handouts lol :)

Austerity ™
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 16:06 #3

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
It might conceivably be justifiable were this not the case.

Spain2a

Spain1o
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 16:09 #4

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
Its just madness.
I reckon you'd have to put politicians through something like a clockwork orange version of truther videos with their eyes stapled open to actually print their own money :)
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 17:10 #5

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
Bit of good news for once :D
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 20:33 #6

  • Boots
  • Boots's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Junior Boarder
  • Rank2
  • Posts: 434
  • Thank you received: 234
  • Karma: 22
andyh wrote:
Its just madness.
I reckon you'd have to put politicians through something like a clockwork orange version of truther videos with their eyes stapled open to actually print their own money :)

:chuckle:

Followed by a frontal lobotomy and an intense course of mind control.
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 21:29 #7

  • hugorune
  • hugorune's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • I'm not wearing hockey pants
  • Posts: 4656
  • Thank you received: 4131
  • Karma: 15
The tax system in this country has been mentioned as the reason for Usain Bolt not competing at grand prix meetings. Not sure if he's charged a percentage per stride. Maybe double if he breaks a record.

I can just imagine the revenue collectors meeting him off his flight and marching him to a cash point.
Si me puede disparar los conejos, a continuación, puedo disparar fascistas
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 21:58 #8

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
hugorune wrote:
The tax system in this country has been mentioned as the reason for Usain Bolt not competing at grand prix meetings. Not sure if he's charged a percentage per stride. Maybe double if he breaks a record.

I can just imagine the revenue collectors meeting him off his flight and marching him to a cash point.
I didn't know that, I was lucky enough to see him run in Manchester, but I found this quite easily:

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfina...aws-are-changed.html
Usain Bolt refuses to race in UK until tax laws are changed

Triple London 2012 Olympic champion Usain Bolt has refused to compete in the UK again until the country changes its tax laws

The sprinter, who won gold medals in the 100m, 200m and 4x100m relay at the Games in London, objects to a law that sees him taxed on global sponsorship and endorsement earnings as well as any appearance fee - levied at the 50pc higher earning rate - when he competes in Britain.

And despite setting a new world record during the Olympics, the 25 year-old, who earns an estimated $20m (£12.7m) a year, says his UK-based fans won't see him compete until the tax laws are loosened.

“As soon as the law changes I'll be here all the time," Bolt said. "I love being here, I have so many Jamaican fans here and it's wonderful."

Glyn Bunting, a partner at Deloitte, told Radio 4 that HMRC would not only want a slice of Bolt's winnings in the UK but also his £12.5m sponsorship deal with Puma.

"Usain Bolt will be paid a considerable amount of money to wear a particular brand of clothing or a particular type of racing shoe and HMRC wants its share of that income," Mr Bunting said.
It's completely taking the piss, in my opinion.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 22:12 #9

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
Does Puma pay tax?
If so how much and where and why is that not the object of HMRC's attention instead of Usain Bolt?

Ofc we needn't bother with any of this if govt printed its own money at 0% interest instead of having to pay for it :facepalm:
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 23:00 #10

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
andyh wrote:
Does Puma pay tax?
This took some finding:

about.puma.com/wp-content/themes/aboutPU...abschluss_e_2010.pdf

See page 9...in 2010 Puma made 2,706.4 million euros (2.7 billion) worth of sales, and paid 99.3 million euros in tax. This would amount to 3.6% of their turnover. Their profit was 1,344.8 million euros (1.34 billion), so in effect they paid about 7.3% tax on their profits. Of course, they managed to deduct nearly 2.4 billion euros in 'expenses' before their tax was calculated.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: andyh

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 23:15 #11

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
wake_up_bomb wrote:
andyh wrote:
Does Puma pay tax?
This took some finding:

about.puma.com/wp-content/themes/aboutPU...abschluss_e_2010.pdf

See page 9...in 2010 Puma made 2,706.4 million euros (2.7 billion) worth of sales, and paid 99.3 million euros in tax. This would amount to 3.6% of their turnover. Their profit was 1,344.8 million euros (1.34 billion), so in effect they paid about 7.3% tax on their profits. Of course, they managed to deduct nearly 2.4 billion euros in 'expenses' before their tax was calculated.

You know...this is what I like about you wub :)
You look stuff up, you actually research for real and its amazing to watch tbh.
Your book is full of factual references up the wazoo, unlike other 'truther stuff' I could care to mention and yet there's such a small pool of people who have read it. I only wish it was more, many more.

7.3% tax on profits and the sports stars who everyone concentrates on and whines about pay 50+%.

Here I am earning what is probably an enviable salary for a lot of people and paying little in the way of tax myself and yet I'm on a forum telling people how screwed up the system is...what does that make me?
You know, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time but theres always people like yourself DG, Mikey, Dubs, Oi, Pesky, Notty and many others who inspire me to do better.
I have this internal dialogue going all the time saying, 'why bother? why tell everyone when you can just concentrate on enjoying your own life and bollocks to it?'.

Feel the power of the darkside lol. Bah, its nothing compared to the light the shines from you guys on this forum, thanks everyone!
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 03 Sep 2012 23:59 #12

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
andyh wrote:
You know...this is what I like about you wub :)
You look stuff up, you actually research for real and its amazing to watch tbh.
Your book is full of factual references up the wazoo, unlike other 'truther stuff' I could care to mention and yet there's such a small pool of people who have read it. I only wish it was more, many more.

7.3% tax on profits and the sports stars who everyone concentrates on and whines about pay 50+%.

Here I am earning what is probably an enviable salary for a lot of people and paying little in the way of tax myself and yet I'm on a forum telling people how screwed up the system is...what does that make me?
You know, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time but theres always people like yourself DG, Mikey, Dubs, Oi, Pesky, Notty and many others who inspire me to do better.
I have this internal dialogue going all the time saying, 'why bother? why tell everyone when you can just concentrate on enjoying your own life and bollocks to it?'.

Feel the power of the darkside lol. Bah, its nothing compared to the light the shines from you guys on this forum, thanks everyone!
Thanks very much, mate, that's very kind of you. Your posts about self-employment did at least get through to me. If it got through to absolutely no-one else at all, you at least got through to one person! I wouldn't profess to be making that much money yet, but I don't intend to do a workaday job ever again.

Hopefully my book will come out soon. It's hard enough just finding a publisher in itself because most publishers just want to publish lowest common denominator stuff, which is understandable, really, as they don't make any money. Most of the world's biggest publishers print educational textbooks; ie. they sell to people who are obliged to read their stuff!

Puma probably pay more tax than many other corporations, but it does put things into perspective when one Argentine footballer pays over two and a half times the amount of tax paid by a multinational sportswear manufacturer. I thought I'd look up Nike just now. They do actually pay more Income Tax than Messi, which is decent of them, see page 56:

www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320187/0...12511194791/d10k.htm

Revenue: 20,862 million
Income Taxes: 711 million

It's almost exactly the same percentage as Puma, 3.5%. They manage to write off over $18 billion per annum in expenses before tax is calculated.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: andyh

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 04 Sep 2012 00:02 #13

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
I don't really want people to just be self employed, I want people to know the injustice of the system.
You can only know via experience, telling people isn't enough. You can't realy know something unless you live it.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 04 Sep 2012 00:26 #14

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
andyh wrote:
I don't really want people to just be self employed, I want people to know the injustice of the system.
You can only know via experience, telling people isn't enough. You can't realy know something unless you live it.
To me this should be blindingly obvious when billions of people don't have any food or water and a few live in the lap of obscene luxury, and the gap between rich and poor is quite visibly getting bigger. I still think the most important thing is the education system because you don't come out of it with any concept of what's important or what's going on, you have a completely false concept of reality. It takes a lot for people to admit to themselves that all the things they were taught to believe in are phony and defunct. You know, despite everything, I think the institutions of Britain are still generally respected, people still have a positive image and impression of them. People still think this is a 'good' country, while other 'poor' countries are somehow corrupt. I'm not sure to what extent this is wilful ignorance, and to what extent it's genuine belief. Usually the people that realise how upside-down things are either felt very ill at ease from a young age with the way the world was and never swallowed the propaganda in the first place, or they experience some life changing event, or both. Otherwise most people will basically adapt to and accept any social system that exists, and in fact not even know that they're living in a social system.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: andyh

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 04 Sep 2012 01:04 #15

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
Where i can read more about your book dude? I hope your cutting andyh a percentage he sold it well ;)
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 04 Sep 2012 01:25 #16

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
Guevarista wrote:
Where i can read more about your book dude? I hope your cutting andyh a percentage he sold it well ;)

You should know I don't endorse much thats for sure.

Go ahead and link it wub, its not DIF :)
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 04 Sep 2012 03:49 #17

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
You can read more about my book here:

hostiletakeoverbook.blogspot.co.uk/

The hard copy is supposed to be coming out this year, hopefully. I heard from my publisher today actually, so fingers crossed it will be quite soon.

If you're interested you can read about the book I'm currently writing (when I get chance) here:

beebbrother.blogspot.co.uk/
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
Last Edit: 04 Sep 2012 03:58 by wake_up_bomb.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Guevarista

Re: Taxation in Spain - the Beckham Law 04 Sep 2012 14:55 #18

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
Just read this today, and it reminded me of something that Vaclav Klaus said:

www.anatolykarpovchessschool.org/home/karpovinterviews.html
WF: When Spassky lost, there was a lot of talk that he wasn't treated well.

AK: What do you mean he wasn't treated well?

IWF: The Soviet authorities were unhappy that he lost; there was so much at stake.

AK: The Soviet authorities were very disappointed, and of course chess players had deep (many) privileges within the society until that moment. We started to come under attack years later, not immediately, but at that moment the prizes (money) were not taxed...At the end, they (Soviet authorities) attacked not only Spassky, but all of our advantages. In 1975, they created a law under which we gave part of our prizes (money), a big part of our prizes, to the state.

IWF: Really?

AK: When I played my match with Korchnoi in 1978, I received only 20% of my prize.

IWF: 80% went to the state?

AK: Yes, Spassky received 100%.

IWF: So that hurt chess players from then on.

AK: Before Spassky lost to Fischer, and two years after, we didn't give any money (to the state) from our prizes. From exhibitions, yes, but not from prizes. I was the biggest victim in 1978. We had good money in the Philippines, but I had to give most of my prize to the state.

IWF: Did they call it a tax?

AK: No, actually it wasn't a direct tax. We had to give it to the Sports Ministry. They called it participation in developing sport and chess in the country.

www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affair...59niix-1226102111423
Czech leader Vaclav Klaus rails against carbon tax

THE President of the Czech Republic has likened climate change to a totalitarian philosophy similar to Communism which will inhibit democratic freedoms.

President Vaclav Klaus used an address at the National Press Club in Canberra today to attack the "arrogance" of global warming advocates and warned of the futility of trying to fight the climate.

Mr Klaus said supporters of climate change action sought to suppress the free market, dictate prices and exert greater control over society. He said those who had not experienced life under a centrally planned communist regime did not place the same premium on freedom.

"We experienced communism, central planning and all kinds of attempts to organise the society from above. I feel obliged to warn against the arguments and ambitions which sound very similar to those we had to resist decades ago," he said.

"I am absolutely convinced that all the old almost forgotten economic arguments should be repeated now. It's time to do it and it's our duty to do it."

While he explicitly rejected suggestions climate change was a kind of communist conspiracy, Mr Klaus said he saw troubling similarities between the two.

Formerly a professional economist, Mr Klaus said he was opposed to put a putting a price on carbon.

He warned an emissions trading scheme was not a true market based solution as often claimed.

He was more upbeat about the merits of Coalition's direct action policy.

"I would say that, in some respect, I would be in favour of direct action," he said.

"Direct action is visible, understandable and probably people can more easily discuss the cost benefits of such measures."
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
Last Edit: 04 Sep 2012 14:57 by wake_up_bomb.
You must register to post here.
  • Page:
  • 1
Moderators: psketti, oioioi, batou
Time to create page: 0.178 seconds

Latest Members Blogs

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Prev Next

What is going on when it comes to 9-11 I…

The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

Read more

9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

Read more

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

Read more

Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
donation thermometer
56%
Most Recent Donation:
$122 USD on 4th Jan 2021
Bitcoin Address: bc1q0kazqya0nurfxtunxv807vm0m8852nnrrk8mj8
 
Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.

TradeZone Latest

Visitors

Today544
Yesterday4382
Week9440
Month34375
Total1132799

Your IP Address: 216.73.217.23 Your Browser and OS: Unknown - Unknown Wednesday, 26 August 2026 07:34

Who Is Online

Guests : 688 guests online Members : No members online
© 2012 – 2021 Sanctum Zone | All rights reserved. This website is a place for people to express and discuss their views on the news and world events. DISCLAIMER: Please Note: Views expressed and submitted by contributors are their own personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions and beliefs of the Sanctum Zone website and its founder(s) , administrators , moderators , and any other website maintenance technicians, personnel and volunteers. Articles and messages posted on this website and forum are solely the opinion of their authors.

Login or Register

LOG IN

Register

User Registration
or Cancel