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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 14:31 #1

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www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/eu-l...king-union-1.1732023
The European Union’s plan for an integrated banking union passed a decisive milestone today after member states and the European Parliament reached agreement on the Single Resolution Mechanism, a centralised resolution body and accompanying €55 billion fund that will be responsible for winding-up troubled banks.

While agreement on the complex piece of financial legislation was reached between member states in December after months of talks, the Greek presidency of the council had been tasked with reaching agreement between member states and the European Parliament under the EU’s co-decision system.

Following months of talks, the Parliament finally signed off on the deal this morning following 16 hours of talks in Brussels.

The negotiations began at 3 pm yesterday afternoon, with bleary-eyed negotiators, including euro group president Jeroen Dijsselbloem emerging with a deal at 7am. At least one phone call was made to German finance minister Wolfgang Sch äuble at 5.30am on the deal which is largely seen as favouring smaller countries such as Ireland, by accelerating the pace at which the €55 billion fund will be fully mutualised.

The European Parliament secured a number of changes from the original position agreed by member states, which itself had conceded to a number of German demands in the early set of discussions regarding mutualisation.

Under the package agreed, the period during which the €55 billion fund will move from being a pool of different national funds towards a fully shared fund has been reduced from 10 years to eight. The new proposal also sets out a quicker pace of mutualisation, with 70 per cent of the fund fully pooled within the first three years, compared to 30 per cent in the first draft, which had conceived of a gradual mutualisation of 10 per cent per year over a decade. Under the revised package 40 per cent of the fund will be mutualised in the first year, 20 per cent in the second year, and the rest equally over a further six years.

According to Dutch MEP Corienn Wortmann-Kool this will create a resolution process that would treat banks equally regardless of country they were based in. “We want bail-in of creditors and investors to be applied in the same way to all banks irrespective of the member states these banks are located in,” she said using the example of Ireland as compared to larger states such as Germany and France.

While the plan agreed in December would have meant that a French or German bank, for example, with a large fund behind them would have been able to implement a moderate bail-in, an Irish bank with a smaller national fund would be forced into a deeper bail-in, leading to higher funding costs, she said.

“This would definitely not be what we want to achieve in terms of breaking the link between sovereign and banking debt,” Ms Wortmann-Kool said in a press conference in Brussels this morning.

The agreement also envisages that the European commission will approve decisions made by the SRM’s board on resolving banks, rather than member states, though finance ministers will still have the right to intervene in certain cases. MEP’s had been trying to limit the power of member states to interfere in the decision-making process, amid fears of political interference.

The fund will also have a borrowing capacity, which will go some way to assuaging some concerns about the firepower of the €55 billion fund.

Asked if the imminent European elections had contributed to the outcome of today’s agreement, Ms Wortmann-Kool denied that there had been any political grand-standing at play, or that MEP’s had been under time pressure to reach agreement too early.

“During the process we got a lot of support from the ECB, from the European Commission from experts [...]actually we haven’t met any expert who could explain to us that Council’s position in December could really work, effectively, therefore for us it was extremely important to achieve a credible system.”

The changes achieved by the European Parliament showed democracy at work, she added.

The European Parliament will now have to vote on the proposal at their plenary session in Strasbourg in made-April, the last session before the European elections in May.

EU Internal Markets commissioner Michel Barnier said the agreement allows the completion of the “architecture of the banking union for the euro zone.”

“Backed by an appropriate resolution funding arrangement, and an acceptable decision-making process, this second pillar of the banking union will allow bank crises to be managed more effectively, “ he said.
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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 14:57 #2

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This is a total headf*ck.

Why would they need a 55bn fund if its about enforcing bail-ins instead of bail-outs? :p
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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 18:57 #3

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I know nothing about banking and finance, however , I take it this is not for our benefit ?
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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 19:12 #4

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jhado wrote:
I know nothing about banking and finance, however , I take it this is not for our benefit ?

Well basically it looks like this is geared towards making bail-in standard (banks taking depositors money like cyrprus) however this 55bn pool will be from taxpayers money in various EU states to 'smooth over' bail-ins with partial bail-outs (govt giving welfare to banks).

The solution is ofc to ensure that banks can no longer dick with money by outlawing fraudulent fractional reserve loans altogether but no-one has the balls to do it because it would mean the end of the 'system' as we know it as banks would basically stop loaning altogether and people would have to pay cash for everything including houses. Which ofc means a total housing market collapse but in reality that would simply mean coming down to realistic prices again and inflation not happening anymore, money remaining relatively stable without inflation and of course everyone then being able to see if they are being ripped off with shit wages etc.
Yuppies would no longer go round doing buy to let business and taking the piss out of tenants..in fact the list goes on and on showing again and again how this would solve hundreds if not thousands of primary issues we face today, yet our politicians refuse to do it, no matter what party they belong to.

No single country can do that unilaterally though as the other fractional reserve countries would refuse their treasury notes. The bankers would probably go so far as to set countries at war with each other over such a scenario.
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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 19:20 #5

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andyh wrote:
jhado wrote:
I know nothing about banking and finance, however , I take it this is not for our benefit ?

Well basically it looks like this is geared towards making bail-in standard (banks taking depositors money like cyrprus) however this 55bn pool will be from taxpayers money in various EU states to 'smooth over' bail-ins with partial bail-outs (govt giving welfare to banks).

The solution is ofc to ensure that banks can no longer dick with money by outlawing fraudulent fractional reserve loans altogether but no-one has the balls to do it because it would mean the end of the 'system' as we know it as banks would basically stop loaning altogether and people would have to pay cash for everything including houses. Which ofc means a total housing market collapse but in reality that would simply mean coming down to realistic prices again and inflation not happening anymore, money remaining relatively stable without inflation and of course everyone then being able to see if they are being ripped off with shit wages etc.
Yuppies would no longer go round doing buy to let business and taking the piss out of tenants..in fact the list goes on and on showing again and again how this would solve hundreds if not thousands of primary issues we face today, yet our politicians refuse to do it, no matter what party they belong to.

No single country can do that unilaterally though as the other fractional reserve countries would refuse their treasury notes. The bankers would probably go so far as to set countries at war with each other over such a scenario.

A simple yes or no would have done Andy :)
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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 19:43 #6

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jhado wrote:
andyh wrote:
jhado wrote:
I know nothing about banking and finance, however , I take it this is not for our benefit ?

Well basically it looks like this is geared towards making bail-in standard (banks taking depositors money like cyrprus) however this 55bn pool will be from taxpayers money in various EU states to 'smooth over' bail-ins with partial bail-outs (govt giving welfare to banks).

The solution is ofc to ensure that banks can no longer dick with money by outlawing fraudulent fractional reserve loans altogether but no-one has the balls to do it because it would mean the end of the 'system' as we know it as banks would basically stop loaning altogether and people would have to pay cash for everything including houses. Which ofc means a total housing market collapse but in reality that would simply mean coming down to realistic prices again and inflation not happening anymore, money remaining relatively stable without inflation and of course everyone then being able to see if they are being ripped off with shit wages etc.
Yuppies would no longer go round doing buy to let business and taking the piss out of tenants..in fact the list goes on and on showing again and again how this would solve hundreds if not thousands of primary issues we face today, yet our politicians refuse to do it, no matter what party they belong to.

No single country can do that unilaterally though as the other fractional reserve countries would refuse their treasury notes. The bankers would probably go so far as to set countries at war with each other over such a scenario.

A simple yes or no would have done Andy :)

lol :)
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EU leaders reach deal to complete banking union 21 Mar 2014 21:18 #7

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Oh FFS how much evidence do we need.

Ever get the feeling that we are being softened up?

Concepts such as would have been beyond the pale are now taken as a POV.

Makes you think just exactly how the internet has been manipulated.
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