marina wrote:

I used to use Neways products for a while a few years back. Good stuff but expensive.

psketti wrote:
Was that Multi-Level marketing sketts?

Wise Haven wrote:

I have no idea what that even is so that would be a no

My mum was a housekeeper for some rich bitch at the time who used it... mum liked it and ended up getting stuff which led to me also using the products for a while

psketti wrote:
It is Wise Haven, and apparently the management changed in 2006, after I quit. The Neways site doesn't even list the products any more, and it's a shame, the products are really good, it would sell itself if not for the pyramid scheme. To make money out of it, you'd have to live and breathe neways, talking about it all the time to strangers and all, and it's not my thing, even though I believe in the product.

marina wrote:
Thought it was - I recognized the method - MLM companies try not to swipe sales from their distributor by selling online and also encourage customers to get product info from their retailer/distributor.

psketti wrote:
Are those products the same as Amway in the USA and Australia?

Babs wrote:
I had the same thought Babs. Amway went through a tough time in the UK so It wouldn't surprise me if they re-branded for the UK.
There were a lot of issues between Amway and their Independent distributors who were openly flaunting company terms and conditions to promote their own sideline business interests.

Wise Haven wrote:
Different companies and products, not the same thing. Looks like with amway you can order it online even, not so much with neways, I guess only through distributors (luckily there's quite a few where I live, if you have money lol). It's like avon, only more expensive and supposedly clean and free of harmful chemicals. I used the face care ages ago, acne treatment, while I was using it my skin was great, no pores, no break outs, baby smooth skin, thing is you have to always use it and it's just too expensive, and also did a whole body cleanse. As I said I love the product, but I don't agree with MLM and all that, never have. I'd prefer to buy something in store or least have it available online without going through the distributor bullshit, last I remember, when I was one, it was a 10% cut for a starter like myself and the higher the top the better the deal. I think up to 50%, so you're talking out of $100, $50 is yours, and you also make money out of the sales of those distributors that are under you brought in by you.... Those on top make big buck. But I just couldn't do it, felt like I was manipulating people. Not very different from the mainstream marketing though, you pay 10x the price of what the product would cost, only it goes to people and not to the corporation (or rather that's the illusion).

www.neways.com/en/home.aspx
www.neways.com/gb-en-gb/Content1.aspx?PageId=289#.UzxOC_mSySo
images.neways.com/euweb/docs/catalogues/[UK]-Neways-Product-Catalogue.pdf

marina wrote:
MLM or network marketing is actually a good and fair business model if it is done legally; which is strictly regulated in the UK.
However, the distributor (The big money people) side of the business can fall short of the ideal. And that is where a lot of problems lay.
Products are, in general, high value/quality products, usually - and accordingly attract a high selling price. But, like the traditional sales models it is open to abuse by fly-by-night operators.
Network marketing, per-se is not a bad model as long as potential distributors do their homework on the product and do not fall for the distributor (Training System) shenanigans.
As long as you choose the right Company, with a marketable product and a trustworthy distributor network there is no reason you could not make it into an ethical and profitable small business venture.

Do your homework

Think I'll split some of these posts off into their own thread.... any objections and how does multi-level marketing sound like for a title?

psketti wrote: Do it woman, sorry for derailing Feeling like a Scientology promoter haha.
How's MLM aka "Buy my books complete fucking idiots, no offence" for a title ehh?

marina wrote:

No need for apologies on any derailing... its what we're good at around here innit

Although I do have an issue with the fact that it now looks like I started a thread about something which I only learnt the meaning of an hour ago

psketti wrote:
"With great power comes great responsibility"

Jus' sayin'

No pressure Psketts.....

Toes are tappin;

They need an answer now - no pressure -

Gid Psketts - chilren' are probably, maybe sufferin' all round the world now

Won't anybody think of the children?

Well that Amway mirror and glass cleaner was EXCELLENT, mind you my daughter and her hubby at the time fell out with a couple who where their friends when they turned into SALESPEOPLE, my daughter said it was horrible as every time they had a dinner or drinks meet it turned into a sales pitch. Good way to lose friends................

Crap thread title BTW

Babs wrote:
Yep! - Typical example of the re-framing process that seeped into the business because of the distributors taking on NLP techniques. Very sad - I saw this happen too many times.

Wise Haven wrote:

lol give me a fucking chance eh ffs


*goes off to mutter about summit under breath just so it takes longer*

Babs wrote:
Yep! SALESPEOPLE to me are like Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on your door...

One thing about Neways I noticed while being at their presentations, they carry themselves like worshipers of sorts, almost cultish like, it was a major turn off for me, despite loving their products, I felt some arrogance from their part. I could never do it like they do, felt like in a church environment where they worship it, like the religious folks worship the bible.... weird experience for me as I'm sorta a rebel. It is legit and the product is good, but ffs... it's like selling enlightenment..... and apparently much changed under new management, it became more of a pyramid than it was. While the small distributors sorta make a living, those on top get rich. I guess it's alright to sell to rich people as it seems only those could afford it, they'd have no problem paying $100 for a product that's $50 and don't mind you keeping the difference, but if you sell to simple folk, it's a rip off.