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Re: Teeth 20 Jun 2012 18:42 #21

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I agree with Mrindigo's statement of guiding the larger adult teeth in. There seems to be less cutting of the gums and pain while getting your adult teeth in when the baby teeth loosen up and slide out just as the adult ones come in (already a hole there and other teeth spread out a bit around the area of new teeth coming in).

Also tend to think that the first set of teeth, being milk teeth (like other mammals have) are made for nursing. Some difference in them maybe, makes them accommodate being breastfed whereas adult teeth would not meet that requirement.
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Re: Teeth 21 Jun 2012 18:48 #22

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I'll take your word for it bel as I have no intention of testing the theory on myself!

Can I ask, did you get your kids vaccinated, if not (I'm pre-empting :emb: ) how were/are they healthwise in comparison with their peers?
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Re: Teeth 22 Jun 2012 20:16 #23

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oioioi wrote:

Can I ask, did you get your kids vaccinated, if not (I'm pre-empting :emb: ) how were/are they healthwise in comparison with their peers?

My boys, yes as I didn't know any better then.

My daughter, not a single one and the healthiest by far.

Wasn't an easy descision by any stretch but one I'm glad I made. Best thing to do oi, is research... for your own peace of mind because as soon as you mention this to any person involved in the health profession, you're gonna be bombarded with all the nasty 'buts' they are programmed to fill you with.

This place was very informative back then and I expect it still is. It's real people with real damaged kids;

www.jabs.org.uk/

DI also made a few documentries that covered the subject well so you should check those out too.
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Re: Teeth 23 Jun 2012 05:38 #24

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So the office manager gave birth to a really large boy, despite her own child-like size, in late March. The kid is already growing two, middle, lower, bottom teeth!

Breast feeding is finished as I understand.

I've known kids if the same age to roll over and crawl, but teeth?

The orthodontist from about 30 years ago (when in my late teens) mentioned I only had upper wisdom teeth; Evidence of a slowly increasing evolutionary trend within the past 120 (+/-) years, noting a narrowing, lower jaw, creating more of a teeth crowding situation requiring more frequent correction due to the number of teeth crammed into a smaller space.

I guess my co-worker took super prenatals during her pregnancy. Poor kid, he doesn't have a snowball's chance if his rich family doesn't plan very wisely and consider trends at least 30-40 years out.
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Re: Teeth 24 Jun 2012 11:46 #25

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oioioi wrote:
I'll take your word for it bel as I have no intention of testing the theory on myself!

Can I ask, did you get your kids vaccinated, if not (I'm pre-empting :emb: ) how were/are they healthwise in comparison with their peers?

Hi dub, that's a very good question! My eldest son has 'borderline' ASD, he had both sets of MMR and the symptoms came on when he was a year and a half, his weight dropped by a tremendous amount, he was thought to have coeliacs disease but that was inconclusive and I thought the weight-drop was down to me stopping the breastfeeding as he was a couple of months over a year old. I do think that if I hadn't breastfed he may have been full-blown. He is still going through a proper diagnosis, I was badly let down by the authorities and sacked them all. He is now 16 and we have a visit to the shrink on tuesday, part of the full diagnosis. He suffered from a lot of coughing when young and his breath wasn't too good. his tonsils were enlarged and he suffered from sleep apnoea and I was told it was due to the shape of his head. (Complete and utter bullshit, his tonsils were enlarged as it's the first line of defence) He had them taken out and despite his autism is a strong and healthy lad now.
My youngeset son had the first MMR jab as I was pretty thick and very slow on the uptake back then ann was breastfed until just over a year old. (When I could put him on cows milk and forget the dubious powdered stuff) but didn't have the second one. He is very rarely ill and has a different father to my first child.
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Re: Teeth 24 Jun 2012 19:13 #26

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Ab Origine wrote:
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I don't know why we have two sets of teeth, but I have a few guesses as to why.

Babies/young children's jaws are too small to accommodate a full set of adult teeth, so the first set might serve some other purpose than the obvious. They may help to guide/set the stage for proper growth pattern of more specialized adult teeth when they reach that growth stage. Unlike lesser advanced species like sharks that grab and slice, we don't need to constantly replace teeth.

For anyone with tooth decay problems, cut out high fructose corn syrup, and white flour from your diet. Ingest a healthy amount of phosphates, calcium, and Omega-3 (which is great for dealing with oral infection and gum inflammation). Get rid of fluoridated toothpaste (this is one of the most important parts), and switch over to a toothpaste that uses xylitol.

Xylitol is a naturally occurring enzyme found in many plants and fungi. There are high levels of it in birch trees. It was originally used in northern Europe as an alternative to sugar for diabetics. It was later found to have some interesting and beneficial dental hygiene properties. When it enters the human body, it causes an increase in saliva flow which prevents bacterial growth. It also turns the human saliva into a more alkaline state, making it a harsher environment for oral bacteria. This same chemical change causes the inner areas of human teeth to call for more calcium and phosphates to areas with weakened enamel, which causes the teeth to actually repair themselves. It does have a few negative properties. It can have a laxative effect for some first time users, but goes away with regular use. I didn't experience that myself. Xylitol is really bad for dogs. Small doses can cause hypoglycemia, while larger doses can cause death via organ failure. Keep away from your dogs!

What Mr I said.

I'd also add a little sodium bicarb rubbed into the gums when there is pain always works wonders for me. If you're doing it for yourself, mix a little up into a paste and have a good, old brush with the stuff.

I have a theory re teeth actually...as well as other body 'parts'. I reckon we should be perfectly capable of re-growing bits and pieces as required, given adequate nutrition and mental focus. I think the baby/adult teeth thing is a bit of ruse, tbh. What would the poor, old dental industry do if we all knew we could just regrow or repair our own teeth? I've tried to see if I could do it myself but the pain just gets the better of me, especially with my rubbish diet and fizzy pop addiction, so I've had quite a few yanked.

I still hope to perfect this self-repair technique though, so I'll be sure and let you all know as and when I start sprouting new gnashers. I'm focusing on penis growth at present and don't want to spread my mental abilities too thin.

I happen to agree with you Ab. The human body and mind are indeed capable of regrowing bits and pieces. The various placebo studies with terminally test subjects shows that to be a reality. I've never tried the sodium bicarb method you describe. I'll give it a try sometime, thank you. I hope you can give up soda. The phosphoric acid in that stuff is no good. It makes it difficult to gather calcium if you drink it constantly. Please do let me know if you do succeed in dental regrowth. :)
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Re: Teeth 24 Jun 2012 20:03 #27

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Thanks mri. :up:

Often, what I say in jest I am actually quite passionate about, and I firmly believe that we are capable of such things. I did find a few bods on various forums actually, that said they had some success with the bicarb in terms of new teeth coming in, well into adulthood. I think it has something to do with alkaline environments, hence the bicarb. One chap in particular ditched the regular toothpaste completely and just brushed with a bicarb paste, and he swore he had new growth as a result...all anecdotal, of course.

I myself had an exposed nerve earlier in the year, which I then had a filling put on, which caused me immense pain. All I did was brush with bicarb and that seems to have healed what ever was going on up in that tooth now.

Having suffered from skin complaints in the past too, the same could be said for bathing in things like bicarb, epsom salts and even white vinegar! I think Dom's the man to ask, but it has to be said that in my own experience, 'disease' states are certainly lessened in an alkaline environment.

The bicarb thing really does work for this reason, though you won't hear the medical profession shouting about it. It only costs a couple of quid from Boots anyway, so what have you to lose?

The soda restriction is going well, thanks for asking. I haven't kicked it completely, but a week cold-turkey has helped me immensely as I now don't really enjoy the taste and have managed to limit intake to occasional and always with a meal. (I'm brewing yet another 'theory' about sugar and fibre intake having to be equal, as it would be in nature).
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Re: Teeth 24 Jun 2012 21:09 #28

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what you can grow new teeth with bicarbonate of soda paste? that would be cool im missing a tooth lol ill let you know what happens. what if it takes a long time?
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Re: Teeth 24 Jun 2012 21:14 #29

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batou wrote:
what you can grow new teeth with bicarbonate of soda paste? that would be cool im missing a tooth lol ill let you know what happens. what if it takes a long time?

It probably would take a while, bats, if it happened at all. It also has a lot to do with diet and nutrition, imo. Like I said though, you've nothing to lose by giving it a whirl.

You gummy bastard.
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Re: Teeth 24 Jun 2012 21:31 #30

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i know its terrible lol
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Re: Teeth 02 Jul 2012 19:51 #31

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Ok, I've had enough!

The broken tooth I mentioned before... It's going all fucked up now! It's getting sore and it seems it's in two pieces actually from which the inner one is getting loose! :O

It feels like, I could actually pull it out myself. I know that broken teeth eventually drop out naturally, but that takes long time and can cause some quite severe shit before it gets loose. I've heard of horror stories of blood poisonings and stuff if tooth is left to rot on it's own.

This is rather disgusting actually. Funny thing is, I've never been afraid of dentist, and when I was kid, I used to pull out loose baby teeth by my hands. :twisted:

The problem I have is that I'm busy, tomorrow I have rehearsal with my friends band, I should do some guest vocals for them, I need to stay in another town 'till wednesday, at wednesday I come back here and I have my own bands rehearsals.... Earliest possibility is thursday. Unless I change plans. I guess I could get this teeth problem sorted out quite soon, because it's quite.. well, obvious that it's gonna rot unless removed.
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Re: Teeth 02 Jul 2012 20:12 #32

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Fucken hell, if I would just have guts to, I'd pull the fucker out myself... I wonder how long are the roots?
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Re: Teeth 02 Jul 2012 22:04 #33

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Hexhammer wrote:
Fucken hell, if I would just have guts to, I'd pull the fucker out myself... I wonder how long are the roots?

Even if a dentist has pulled it you can't guarantee he has got all the roots out.

I'm still reeling from the last sick, sadistic dentist who refused to pull my tooth without doing an X-ray and bugger me if he hasn't left a root in still! Don't anyone tell me that he couldn't see a piece missing from the pulled tooth without needing to X-ray anyway!!

I have heard that these root canal fillings are just keeping a dead tooth in place and can cause arthritis.

What annoys me the MOST through this 'dentist' thing is my youngest sister being the dental nurse.
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Re: Teeth 02 Jul 2012 22:13 #34

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It seems that nearly all my upper left teeth are more or less in crappy condition... Shit. This might get more complicated than i expected.

Well, the broken one needs to be pulled the heck out. There's not much more than roots left.
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Re: Teeth 02 Jul 2012 22:45 #35

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Bloody hell!! Never ever try to move broken, nearly loose tooth by hand without anesthetic. Shit!!! I just took a painkiller, it doesn't seem to work.

Hurts like hell! It appears i have some live nerves in there still. Or then its behind the tooth...
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Re: Teeth 03 Jul 2012 08:19 #36

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Bloody hell!! Never ever try to move broken, nearly loose tooth by hand without anesthetic. Shit!!! I just took a painkiller, it doesn't seem to work.

Hurts like hell! It appears i have some live nerves in there still. Or then its behind the tooth...

I can sympathise with that. When my tooth broke the nerve was exposed. Anything that touched it hurt like crazy. Hydrogen peroxide seemed to help a little. When Mr Sado looked into my mouth he put that pointy instrument right on the nerve and I leapt off the chair. I very nearly punched him through automatic response. Then he had the cheek to say it was a damaged nerve. No it wasn't, it was working perfectly!!

Do they have things like an emergency dentist where you are? How about visiting the doctor?
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Re: Teeth 03 Jul 2012 08:35 #37

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Hex, get some oil of peppermint, and rub it around that wound. :thumbup:

Don't get it near your eyes, or scratch your baws though. :down:

It won't cure you, but it'll relieve the pain, and you won't feel the bottom half of your head until next thursday.
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Re: Teeth 03 Jul 2012 14:27 #38

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Thanks for the replies...

I think the nerve in my tooth is completely dead, there's something working BEHIND the tooth, up there where the roots are... I tried to get a time to dentist today, what a surprise, nobody answered there. I'll try to get this fixed asap, it's painful.
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Re: Teeth 03 Jul 2012 15:48 #39

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Hexhammer wrote:
Thanks for the replies...

I think the nerve in my tooth is completely dead, there's something working BEHIND the tooth, up there where the roots are... I tried to get a time to dentist today, what a surprise, nobody answered there. I'll try to get this fixed asap, it's painful.

When my tooth was pulled any pain was gone. The nerve was in the tooth. Quite incredible really, I wondered where it was connected to.
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Hexhammer wrote:
Thanks for the replies...

I think the nerve in my tooth is completely dead, there's something working BEHIND the tooth, up there where the roots are... I tried to get a time to dentist today, what a surprise, nobody answered there. I'll try to get this fixed asap, it's painful.

When my tooth was pulled any pain was gone. The nerve was in the tooth. Quite incredible really, I wondered where it was connected to.

Interesting... I read somewhere, it's a instant relief when a broken tooth is pulled out. I hope it'll be like that.
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