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Orgonite 24 Nov 2012 20:42 #1

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I know nothing of this subject except that it's apparently good for many things.

So, do any members here use orgonite and if so, do they get results?
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Re: Orgonite 24 Nov 2012 20:53 #2

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It's a pity Anthony65 disappeared. This is another of his areas of expertise. He swears by it.
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For a second I thought you said orgasm... I know not of either, so... maybe this site will help (with the orgonite, not the other).
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@gilly... yeah I remember he talked of it a few times quite passionately but never went into detail.

@stars... cheers for the link but I suppose I was kinda hoping some here used it so could give first hand accounts on any results. There's tonnes of stuff online and its more a case of where to start?
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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 02:23 #6

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Here is an interesting article by Osho on Wilhelm Reich, the phycist and psychologist discoverer of organite:



Osho on Wilhelm Reich


Wilhelm REICH

Wilhelm Reich





Osho on German Psychologist, Wilhelm Reich

Question - Beloved Osho, The german psychologist, Wilhelm Reich, stumbled upon some inner secrets of bio-energy. He also started practicing these on his patients but he was declared anti-social, was imprisoned and pronounced mad. Osho, what is it that Reich was working on and where did he go wrong. What was he missing?

Osho - Wilhelm Reich is one of the most important names in the world of psychology. Perhaps he was second only to Sigmund Freud -- but he was the youngest disciple of Sigmund Freud and before I answer your question, I have remembered something which is the only incident in the long life of Sigmund Freud which shows something of Zen. It is something which was always present around the great masters but you can't expect it in Sigmund Freud's life. I want to tell you about it for the important reason that even a man like Sigmund Freud has the potential of being a mystic. If he missed it, that is another thing.

Wilhelm Reich was continually writing letters to Sigmund Freud. He was young -- perhaps thirty-five, half the age of Sigmund Freud -- and Sigmund Freud was not interested in such a young person. His work was long and he had old colleagues with whom he was working and his movement had become almost international. Now he was unable to go on taking new students and new responsibilities, so he refused. And he refused his best student.

But Wilhelm Reich was a German, stubborn; you could not just reject him and then things are finished. He went anyway to an appointment that had been cancelled. He knocked on the door and Sigmund Freud himself opened the door. They looked at each other. There was a moment of silence.
Sigmund Freud said, "But I have cancelled the meeting."

Wilhelm Reich said, "But I have not -- and certainly a meeting means a meeting of two persons, so it is only you who has cancelled it. From my side, I am still available and I thought that I should present myself because I have not cancelled it."

Sigmund Freud again looked at Wilhelm Reich as if hesitating or weighing..."What to do with this man?" He said to him, "I am old. You are too young; I will not be able to finish my teaching. And you may not agree with me because there is a generation gap. So why waste your time? Start on your own, you have my blessings."

With tears in his eyes, Wilhelm Reich thanked Sigmund Freud and returned home. He learned about human energies, about the functioning of the mind, about levels of consciousness -- and it was good that he was refused, because he opened a totally new door and he went on thanking Sigmund Freud his whole life; "If he had not refused me, I would have been just a Freudian. At that moment I was hurt but I am immensely obliged to him that he left me alone. I had to start from scratch but I went in a totally different direction and now I can see that all of Sigmund Freud's work is dream analysis and has nothing to do with reality."

Dreams are only shadows. At the most, psychoanalysis can give you normal dreams, can help you to avoid nightmares. But more than that has not happened.
Wilhelm Reich started working on human energy. Naturally, if you work on human energy you are going to come to the source of all -- that is sexual energy. The moment he touched upon sexual energy, all the religions were against him. The government was against him, the psychologists were against him, and his situation was a very strange one.

He had come to experience that when two lovers are approaching closer to each other, there is a magnetic force -- if there is love. If there is no love, then only two bodies meet, but not two energies.

He had a scientific mind. He made a box in which two persons would make love. His idea was that the energy love creates can be caught and can be used. Now this was a troublesome thing. He could not show anything -- the box was empty. There was no way to materialize the biological energy, but he gathered every possible evidence.

Somebody was suffering from impotence. Wilhelm Reich would put him in the box and his impotence would disappear, at least for a few days, as if his battery had been recharged. It was an indirect proof but something had happened. In the box, something had happened, the box was not empty.

He told lovers, "Even without loving, you can simply lie down, cuddling, melting into each other." His work was strange, hard... and it was made more difficult by the society because they started immediately condemning him, saying that he was in conspiracy with the devil -- just like me! -- saying that sex had to be renounced and he was teaching people some strange exercises.

Those strange exercises show his genius. He had no idea of tantra, he had never been to the East. But the exercises that he found are ten thousand years old. He discovered them and thousands of witnesses who were healed by him... because soon he started healing other patients, not only the sexual ones. Because sex energy is pure energy, it can be converted into many forms. It can become your intelligence, it can become your silence. He started treating people.

The treatment was simple: he would just put them in the box. They would remain for fifteen minutes or twenty minutes, a few sessions -- and they were cured. But medical sicence was against him because "this man cannot practice medicine."
This is how law is blind. This man cured thousands of people of strange diseases which were not curable by ordinary, official medicine but that couldn't be counted. The question was whether he had a registration: "Is he licensed to practice?"

Wilhelm Reich said, "I don't use medicine, I don't prescribe anything. My whole medicine is the box. If you accept it as medicine, then the medical faculties of your universities have to prove what kind of medicine is there. When I tell you to look into what I have found, you think I am crazy and when I cure people, then I am criminal. I have not harmed anybody."

But medical science, the Christian Church, the government -- all started many cases against him. You can start any case -- it may be absolutely false, unfounded, but you can harass the person for years. So many cases... and the man became so tense and there was nobody to support him, not even the people of his own profession. They were against him because their psychoanalysis would die if his energy box succeeded.

Medicine is not ready to accept somebody who has no medical certificates. His friends left him. He was in great agony because he knew he had found something of great value for humanity and he also saw that he could not convince anybody. He was only convincing people that he was crazy. People were simply laughing, making cartoons, bringing court cases against him.

Finally he was jailed because he was practicing medicine without a license. Now you see the tricky world. He was not practicing medicine, he was practicing healing -- that you can say, but you cannot say he was practicing medicine. He had not harmed anybody, and he was ready to cooperate with any research group. He was available to talk about everything he had discovered.

But his discoveries were going against Christianity, his discoveries were going against your so-called morality. His discoveries were going against your whole social structure, educational structure, political structure.

He was one of the greatest revolutionaries ever and he has remained unknown, unrespected, unremembered. And in jail, they must have tortured him immensely. He was not a man who can fall apart easily; he was a very integrated person and the people who knew him testified that it is very difficult to find such a strong, well-rooted and grounded person -- but he went mad in jail.

I suspect he was forced to go into madness. It is very easy to drive anybody mad when all the powers are in your hands and the person is made absolutely helpless. When he became mad.... This is the world: when he was at the peak of his fame, there were friends, there were colleagues, there was a beautiful woman who loved him. But when he came out of jail, the woman divorced him, the friends disappeared, the colleagues made it clear to him that they didn't want any more connection with him because even to be connected with him created suspicion.
It is sad that he died, but I will say he was forced to die. If you boycott a person in such a way that he becomes an island in the great ocean of humanity -- separate, isolated, cannot communicate with anybody, everybody thinks he is mad -- naturally, his will to live will disappear.

He shrank and died. And it is strange that after his death his work has remained where he left it. It has immense potentiality. It needs to be developed and it needs to be developed in collaboration with tantra.

I call Wilhelm Reich a modern tantra master, although he was not aware of it. Perhaps in his past lives he may have known the secrets of tantra -- because his work contained the secrets of tantra.

You will not believe that in India there were at one time, two thousand years ago, two hundred thousand followers of a special group of tantras. They lived naked. Couples used one gown, just one loose gown around both, made of a special silk which prevented the radiation of any kind of energy from going out or in. They would go for begging or anything but they would remain together, naked, in their gown.

They were doing a great experiment, of melting and mixing the female and the male bio-electricity. Because the very meeting of this bio-electricity can help you to go into deep meditation without much effort in fighting with your thoughts. There were one hundred thousand couples and Raja Bhoj, the king in those days, was so furious -- "This is destroying our whole morality, this is corrupting our children. Children will see and they will ask, what kind of people are these? -- naked in one gown.... These people will corrupt our whole religion and tradition."

Bhoj decided to kill all of them. One hundred thousand couples -- that means two hundred thousand people -- were killed all over the country, burned alive. Not a single couple was left alive; their literature was burned, their temples were burned. Never before or after has any tradition been so brutally destroyed, so inhumanely destroyed.

But when you bring up the subject of sex, immediately you annoy all the people who are in power because nobody who is in power wants people to live to their optimum sexually. They want you to live your minimum sexually because at the minimum you can be enslaved. At the maximum, you are so powerful, you are so intelligent -- you are a rock and you cannot be destroyed. Whoever tries to destroy you will be destroyed.

Wilhelm Reich will have a revival because what he was doing was absolutely scientific. No Christianity can prevent it, no government can prevent it. And perhaps....

I have so many sannyasins educated in psychology, in psychoanalysis, in analytical psychology and different schools -- perhaps a few of my sannyasins will start working on Wilhelm Reich. He belongs to us. I give him posthumous sannyas.

Source - Osho Book "Sermons in Stones"
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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 02:39 #7

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www.lifeenergysolutions.com/orgonite/
Orgonite, life energy solutions



www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/listenlittleman.pdf
Listen, little man! By Wilhem Reich
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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 05:27 #8

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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 06:10 #9

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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 14:46 #10

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Was I the only one shouting 'fall in, fall in' @ 3:03?
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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 14:56 #11

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Complete mythology imo.

Not one single piece of empirical evidence to measure or support the claims.
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Re: Orgonite 25 Nov 2012 17:12 #12

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I have a rock/crystal/semi-precious stone collection and I think that different rocks and stones have different vibrational qualities which are subtle but definitely there.

I don't know anything about orgonite other than it is made with quartz crystal. What I would wonder is if there would be a difference on who made the orgonite? Or, if it didn't matter because any energy coming from the orgonite is from the crystal and not the intentions put in by the maker. I don't know, but I think I would rather have a plain quartz crystal than orgonite that was assembled by someone that I do not know. Even with a solid quartz crystal, depending on where it has been, they probably should be cleansed just in case.
Modern Science has clearly established that stones have very symmetric atomic structures. The bonds that bind these formations cause certain specific vibrations in stones. That is what makes a quartz watch. Rubies were used to create energy for the lasers. The needles of Record Players were made of "piezo-electric" (generate electric charge under pressure) crystals. Through Kirlian Photography (image of the energy field around the object is filmed) it has now been established that the energy field around a person is much increased when the person is in contact with a crystal.

A famous scientist from IBM, Marcel Vogel spent a large part of his life trying to work out this mystery of crystals. Vogel was one of the greatest inventor who worked for IBM for twenty seven years. He got attracted to crystals while working with Liquid Crystal Displays or LCD as they are called today.

Our human body consists of 70-80% Silicon and Water. Quartz Crystal is also Silicon Dioxide (SiO2) and Water (H2O). Both quartz crystal and Ice have a similar hexagonal geometry. Marcel Vogel hypothesized that there is a constant assembling and dissembling of bonds between molecules inside these solids. This causes them to vibrate ( such vibrations or resonance have been scientifically measured). Vogel then spent close to an year cutting Quartz Crystals and ultimately created a Double-terminated crystal. This he called the "tree of life" since it resonated at the same frequency as that of water.

Vogel did various other tests to establish that Quartz crystals can store the thoughts, much the same way as magnetic media like tapes are used to record sound. The vibrations inside the crystals mobilizes the mental energy within it. He established that the Double Terminated Crystal is good for healing because the points on both ends serve as a focus, enabling the crystal to conduct subtle energies through its body and out the other end. For meditation the Single Terminated Crystal is better because the mental energies are contained within the crystal.


I've read that ancient advanced civilizations used crystals to harness energy and this is how they got their power. :dunno:
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Re: Orgonite 26 Nov 2012 05:36 #13

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It turns out that I knew even less about orgonite than I thought. For one thing, it does not necessarily have to have a crystal in it. The crystal is put into it to enhance its effects. Orgonite is made from resin and metal shavings. The resin may or may not be made from toxic polymers and even if it is organic, it puts out toxic fumes when it is being made - so there is that. Also, some people use aluminum shavings.... I would rather have copper or iron.

It is said to become piezoelectric, meaning can produce a voltage, I guess this would be possible. I think that I have heard of ceramic batteries, so maybe something like that? I wonder if anyone has built a large enough orgonite piece to light a bulb??

I might be off track, though. I know that people use it to balance, charge or protect themselves. But that it can also clear chemtrails according to this website: www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-chembusters.html
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A properly constructed CB unit should be able to greatly reduce the effects of chemtrails for about 45 miles in all directions (90 mile diameter) from the unit. If used with Slim Spurling’s environmental tools, and a few extra crystals, the diameter can be increased to about 120 miles in all directions.

I am someone who believes in a lot of things, but I am kind of skeptical about orgonite. On the other hand, there are people that I know and respect who use orgonite so there must be something to it, but I would be more apt to believe that the chemtrail buster pictured above, even if it worked a little bit, would be due more to the copper and the crystals and that the orgonite is just what is holding it together.

Or is that the point.... is that what orgonite is supposed to be... metals and crystals held together? Because I think there are vendors that sell orgonite and all they are selling are balls of resin and I also don't like the idea of aluminum being a part of it.

Something else that crossed my mind is what if everyone got on an orgonite kick and the majority of the earths crystals became encased in polymer resin. :goat:

Anyone feel free to set me straight as I admit I know nothing.
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Re: Orgonite 26 Nov 2012 07:55 #14

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yeah, I've used it.
works wonders on plants
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Re: Orgonite 27 Nov 2012 20:26 #15

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Hey martg, I take it then that it did not work wonders on you? And, are you sure it worked wonders on the plants, or, maybe it was you that worked the wonders?

Again, I'm no expert, and I would like one to come along, until then, I don't see the point in encapsulating stones inside of resin. Wouldn't you rather have a pretty rock that can breathe? And perhaps be able to emit vibrational energies? Stones have been used in healing for ages in India, by the way.
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Re: Orgonite 28 Nov 2012 20:03 #16

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I think belief is the key.

It will work for you if you truly believe it will or just be something to look at if you dont.

Maybe that counts for lucky charms as well.
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Isnt it the case that orgonite works by having a conductor and an insulator? Reich's orgon accumulators worked using layers of those two to bring in the orgon and sort of trap it.
What i'm getting at is i'm not sure it necessarily involves crystals. It's something i've always wanted to explore bit have just never done it :(
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This just looks crazy which means it could be true :D Dont know much about orgonite but my girlfriend got given a big bit couple months ago. Maybe a coincidence .I suddenly start looking at conspiracy and my girlfriend out of the blue is given some orgonit which is in our bedroom. :)

Was reading somehing on ickes forum last month about putting orgonite in a gas/electric meter and it slows the wheel down meaning you get more gas/electric. Tried it and it dont work for me.
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Here is an interésting video on Dr. Wilhem Reich's Orgone energy.







www.orgonelab.org www.naturalenergyworks.net Over many years Dr. Wilhelm ...
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