thoreau wrote:
G'day Thoreau.

Thank you for the welcome and the kudos, I appreciate it.

Are you saying that you don't like the blue font colour ? ... I'm crushed.

Actually, you are obviously one of the individuals that much of the Icke related threads have been for ... someone willing to look beyond what has been presented and research the researcher. So thank you for taking the time to read the information presented (coloured font, long sigs and all). In fact, a lot of the comments that I read and thought were bang on the mark were posted by yourself (among a few others) on the few threads that I have gotten around to reading so far.

I will definitely be looking forward to interacting on various other topics that aren't Icke related, though I'm not adverse to having a laugh at the Icke related antics that continually supply conspiratainment.

Anyway, I'll catch you around on some other topics ... and again, thanks for the welcome and kudos.

so...
same shit

different 'gate'

glad to be out of it

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Same one I had at DIF

oioioi wrote:
G'day Oioioi.

Ahhhh, I probably recall it from reading a post or two of yours after having been given a link to read over there. Being in the southern hemisphere, Antipodean, I have heard the term "oi" used in many various ways (the cringe-worthy ... Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi ... being one), so it's probably why it stuck in my mind.

I'll do my utmost to move up the ranking of what comes to mind when you hear/read 'oioioi'

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Then they can discuss it somewhere else
There's pm's , chat etc etc.
The forums for useful stuff.

andyh wrote:
Maybe there needs to be a conspiratainment section?

I meant that sort of jokingly, but on one hand you've got people who just want to move on and talk about "useful stuff", on the other there's now a situation where people from the past are arriving with experiences that resonate with current affairs - it's perhaps inevitable that some level of discourse about this stuff is going to continue, at least for a time. So maybe it would be a good idea to have some kind of space where people can talk about that stuff without it getting on the tits of those sick of hearing about it where they don't have to keep looking at it?

dogsmilk wrote:
If someone specifically joins this forum, takes screenies and then pastes it up on DIF and starts having rants then we don't want to be associated with it.
On most forums it'd be an instant ban ofc.

Again...I would encourage people to have some tact and use their noggin.
Put brain in gear before keyboard in motion and think about alternative ways to vent steam.
This forum is all about personal responsibility and control, which is ofc bloody difficult

oioioi wrote:
G'day Oioioi.

You already have done so.

andyh wrote:
G'day Andyh.

Censors also like to consider themselves the arbitrary judges of what is "useful stuff". So who decides what is "useful stuff" and by what reasoning does any given topic become "useful stuff" ?

Surely each and every individual forum member can decide for themselves and incorporate their decision into either posting or not posting upon such threads. Why is it necessary for any other individual to make such a decision for others ?

Welcome IAAIA, Things are starting to change now once upon a time certain researchers could expose other people but these same researchers were immune to being exposed themselves. As true seekers we should expose and learn from everyone. I see sean now from the Icke forum desperate to keep control and keep the icke disciples in place without questioning anything outside the Icke box.


I think Icke has done a good job but it time for him to relax more now and realise he does not have to be top of the truth/conspiracy pyramid.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Group, not individual.
There's no 'individual' decisions taken by mods here, the stay off DIF topic is merely a reminder for newcomers as there's been so many lately obsessed with it. Common sense should dictate whats 'useful'.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Aw, well I am glad to hear you are doing alright. I know you miss you orchards since your moving then.

I have been doing well, just getting over a case of bronchitis. As far as the game, I have put it on hold for awhile. I have written some additional dialogue to the script but not very much recently.

Hi IAAIA,

nice to see ya! i was only in your forum for a short time, cos i got sick of u lot crapping on about the DI forum, mods, etc.

so i only posted a few times... but u can look my posts, i was whimsycat. you lot were nice to me, but it got depressing seeing everyone going on and on all the time dissing DIF. so i jst went awol, lol.
If you gonna be really nice and friendly, on here, that would be great!
lots of infinate love, matey

ps, thanks to you or that other guy that helped me wiv me avatar, i thought that was very helpful and sweet! x

see, i havent forgotten you. Also, all the smilies u put in at DIF are still there. Not going to waste, but never used...

cheers

nirvana wrote:
G'day Nirvana.

Thanks for the welcome.

Researching the researcher is frowned upon by many ... especially fan-boys.

There are some 'warning signs' of what constitutes a 'cult' ...

Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.

2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.

3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.

4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.

5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.

6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.

7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.

8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".

9. The group/leader is always right.

10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.


Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.

2. Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.

3. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".

4. Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.

5. Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.

6. Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.

7. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.

8. Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.

9. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.

10. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.

www.rickross.com/warningsigns.html

... which can be seen to be present with quite a few 'researchers'/'groups'.

andyh wrote:
G'day Andyh.

It simply sounds like another form of censorship to me ... because some individuals state it is "getting on our nerves", then other individuals are not allowed to discuss the topic. I'm sure it was getting on the nerves of the DI f admin that they had to defend their moderation of the forum ... does that justify the ban on allowing discussion about any moderation ?

Because some individuals have an emotional response to what other individuals are discussing, why does that equate to an allowing censorship to take place ?

By the way, in the General sub-forum, there are four DI related threads ...

Rumours about the David Icke Forum
845 replies
12,320+ views

The David Icke Forum
479 replies
7862 views

... the above two having the most replies and views.

It appears that at least some individuals on the forum would like to discuss the topic.

Interesting list IAAIAM, some points are applicable to the DIF and people who read DI but actually not that many and in very varying degrees. Also I find one point very subjective, namely this one:
4. Unrea­son­able fear about the out­side world, such as impend­ing cat­a­stro­phe, evil con­spir­a­cies and per­se­cu­tions.

What exactly is "the outside world" in this context? and what is "unreasonable fear"? Do you feel that conspiracy"theories" and potential disasterscenarios/information about disasters that has already happened are automatically false, the trait of a cult and should not be discussed?

Also isn't it possible that someone (not specificly talking about Icke here) IS being exposed to persecution from the mainstream society?

Oh and which other groups/researchers are you referring to specificly?

Mountain wrote:
G'day Mountain.

Bronchitis isn't much fun at all ... then again, no form of illness really is.

Well, there's no rush for the game. With the progression of technology it allows for better graphics to be used, so it's all good.

Do you know about Bluegrazz's game ?

Zombie-type rpg. Maybe you could have a chat with him about it ... there's a link somewhere on the IL forum for it, I'll see if I can find it for you sunshine.

I AM ALL I AM wrote: 'Some' since that thread started on DIF perhaps but ALL before the newcomers came along.
Beginning to get the picture now?
Would you want to sit and watch someone talk shit all day long?
It gets extremely tiresome after a while and it fuels the crap which was carried over from DIF.

Did as in past tense, those of us who were here long before sean advertised this forum to the whole world and brought you along were most certainly tired of it. That said, those of us sick of it heavily outnumber those who are not, even if they arrived recently.
This forum is run according to the rules we have published and moderated by the group as a whole, so again, I'm simply asking people to use some common sense, an important aspect of free speech.
Those who can't show any common sense aren't worthy of getting it imho.

curtaincat wrote:
G'day Curtaincat.

How are you doing sunshine ?

I can fully recognise why it could be a bit much at specific times on the IL forum, especially when there had been an influx of new members coming over from the DI f wanting to air their views/story. If I wasn't admin there, I probably wouldn't have gotten involved in a lot of the threads myself. Though I do recognise why some individuals express themselves about the whole scenario the way that they do.

I've been AWOL from the IL forum myself a few times ... sometimes there are other things that take precedence, whether in 'real life', or in the personal choices of how and where you are directing your focus/energy.



This particular avatar ?

You're welcome.

I found it hilarious that there were a few threads that I had started that were still stickies a looooong time after I had been banned. It was almost like an advertisement of the banning to anyone clicking on the threads.