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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 03:19 #61

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I find it quite remarkable that you speak so highly of your president and your country when they are responsible for the deaths of so many thousands and thousands of innocent people.

You're off your head.
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 04:20 #62

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wake_up_bomb wrote:

I don't think there is any point in continuing this 'discussion'. If you want to believe in Obama and vote for him, good luck to you. You don't have to justify yourself to me. I wish the American people well; they're going to need it considering they're flat broke and have just re-elected Obama, and 98% of them voted for either Obama or Romney. So you're going to need a lot of luck. It's often said that repeating the same behaviour over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. I maintain that it is merely stupid.

And, again, don't worry, people behave in an almost identically stupid fashion in Britain.

I can tell you a good reason you might not wan't to continue this 'discussion'...

You have said this multiple times now about America...

"It's often said that repeating the same behaviour over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity"

So i feel that was a cheap shot and i'm going to need to go back and point out the last 70 years of UK leadership.

In 1952 Queen Elizabeth II became the constitutional monarchy of the United Kingdom and overseas territories. :thdown:

In 1953 Dwight Eisenhower was the president and he spoke out against the Military industrial complex in 1961. :up:

In 1961 JFK The Legendary Irish president who stood with MLK for equal rights was in the white house........... :up:

In 1977 Queen Elizabeth II had her Silver Jubilee celebration to mark her 25th UK ruling anniversary................ :thdown:

In 1977 Jimmy Carter the guy who stands up for the Palestinian people was president of the USA................... :up:

In 2002 Queen Elizabeth II had her Golden Jubilee in celebration to mark her 50th UK ruling anniversary......... :thdown:

In 2008 Barack Obama becomes the first African American President of the United States............................ :up:

In 2012 Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee to celebrate her 60th year of rule with the Sceptre over the British :thdown:

So yea I guess your right...

"repeating the same behaviour over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity"

And the UK has been insane to let that madness go on for the last 60 years in a row...

:facepalm:
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 04:28 #63

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The UK is a messed up as the USA .

Happy Christmas :saturn:
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 09:30 #64

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dawnbreak wrote:
The UK is a messed up as the USA .

Happy Christmas :saturn:

And to you, dawn. :)
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 10:48 #65

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The case is clear RA. You either don't comprehend what others say or are trolling.
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 11:12 #66

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dubmeup wrote:
The case is clear RA. You either don't comprehend what others say or are trolling.

Option 2. ;)
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 11:25 #67

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“repeating the same behaviour over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity”

Or really boring, inane, unfounded, trolling.
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 11:56 #68

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I don't think anyone is trolling we just got some different opinions.
Sometimes, if you stand on the bottom rail of a bridge and lean over to watch the river slipping slowly away beneath you, you will suddenly know everything there is to be known.

“Just living is not enough, one must have sunshine, freedom, and a little flower”
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 12:10 #69

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I think this is the first example I can think of of me disagreeing with you thor :O
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 12:14 #70

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first time for everything so they say :)
Sometimes, if you stand on the bottom rail of a bridge and lean over to watch the river slipping slowly away beneath you, you will suddenly know everything there is to be known.

“Just living is not enough, one must have sunshine, freedom, and a little flower”
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 13:13 #71

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.......... wrote:
And the UK has been insane to let that madness go on for the last 60 years in a row...

:facepalm:
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And, again, don't worry, people behave in an almost identically stupid fashion in Britain.
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 14:57 #72

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thoreau wrote:
I don't think anyone is trolling we just got some different opinions.

Thank you, i think i made some valid points in comparing UK leadership with the US over the last 60 years.
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 15:01 #73

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Whilst completely failing to acknowledge that WUB consistently said that Britain is just as bad if not worse....
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 21:54 #74

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Where is mikey to criticize me for being right wing when i'm trying to explain why i voted for Obama...

Hypocrisy... :facepalm:
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 24 Dec 2012 23:26 #75

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
.......... wrote:
And the UK has been insane to let that madness go on for the last 60 years in a row...

:facepalm:
wake_up_bomb wrote:
And, again, don't worry, people behave in an almost identically stupid fashion in Britain.

Obviously he didn't notice that either :)
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 25 Dec 2012 14:05 #76

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andyh wrote:
Obviously he didn't notice that either :)

I noticed it, just had to point out some differences that's all...
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 25 Dec 2012 14:10 #77

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Come off it RA that list aint worth the time you took to write (C+P?) it.

You may as well have written:
Presidents=good
Queen=bad
and left it there.
You'd certainly have got me at least agreeing with the second equation ;)
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 25 Dec 2012 15:29 #78

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but your position is basically presidents = bad, queen= bad.
I really appreciated that post by RA, and agree with his it's not all black and white, he no doubt could be pessimistic and dismiss it all, but I think there is more worth in his optimistic position, for a start it immediately broadens our understanding of in what ways Barack is a positive influence, and I definitely think he is for a lot of young people in the US, it encourages me that lot's of middle class white americans will grow up with an alternative perspective on Black America than the one available in gangster rap.
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 25 Dec 2012 15:50 #79

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Thanks for at least recognizing that just because you aint a monarchist it doesn't mean you have to be a republican :)
Summat which the MSM ram down people's throats literally every time the subject of ditching the monarchy is allowed to come up :(
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Re: Do you Ever Wonder Why you Bother? 25 Dec 2012 16:27 #80

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Guevarista wrote:
but your position is basically presidents = bad, queen= bad.
I really appreciated that post by RA, and agree with his it's not all black and white, he no doubt could be pessimistic and dismiss it all, but I think there is more worth in his optimistic position, for a start it immediately broadens our understanding of in what ways Barack is a positive influence, and I definitely think he is for a lot of young people in the US, it encourages me that lot's of middle class white americans will grow up with an alternative perspective on Black America than the one available in gangster rap.

I've been watching the entire series of 'Roots' recently and it goes to show how far America has come.

People need to understand multiculturalism is the natural destiny for planet earth so it's unavoidable.

America just happens to be the trendsetter for this so the spotlight is on the US in good and bad times.

The day's of the movie Roots are over we (the north) won the civil war and now we have a black president.

Honestly the gangster rap culture and rednecks are rare views into the US that get exploited in the media.

Most schools and suburban neighborhoods are fully multicultural now and that's the way it should be.

People from the UK who paint Obama as a war monger who kills people with drones might not relate.

I don't care if people want to repeatedly point out that the US and UK are corporate warmongers.

They need to explain that to all the people who wan't to move here from the 3rd for "this freedom".

I think it's important that during the queens rule of England, America has had multicultural leaders.

And i think having an Irish president like JFK or an African president like Obama should be noted.

Also for the British to paint Americans as being this country full of warmongers is certainly laughable.
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