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2045 Strategic Social Initative 07 Jan 2013 23:55 #21

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The technology isn't the problem and in theory, transhumanism has a lot of potential to change the world for the better. We could incorporate computers into our evolution, why not? It's just the people in control who are going to use it for selfish purposes. That's always the problem.

As WUB said, it's not for the plebs. We might get some funky little gadgets and toys thrown to us to keep us entertained and distracted. They don't give a toss about some poor bastard with dysentry starving in a ditch somewhere in Africa at the moment, and that's unlikely to change in the future.

Who are "they"?

If you continue to be antagonistic to our members on here, I will have no choice, I will have to stick my tongue out.

Try to be nicer eh? A bit more polite?

I honestly don't understand who "they"are jhado?

I like Lesley and was not trying to be impolite please forgive me.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 07 Jan 2013 23:55 #22

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
The technology isn't the problem and in theory, transhumanism has a lot of potential to change the world for the better. We could incorporate computers into our evolution, why not? It's just the people in control who are going to use it for selfish purposes. That's always the problem.

As WUB said, it's not for the plebs. We might get some funky little gadgets and toys thrown to us to keep us entertained and distracted. They don't give a toss about some poor bastard with dysentry starving in a ditch somewhere in Africa at the moment, and that's unlikely to change in the future.

Who are "they"?

You know...them, those people.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 07 Jan 2013 23:57 #23

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But if i bring up how people live happily in tribes off the land in Africa everyone get's upset.
There's no point in having a conversation with you, you either can't read, or choose not to. Probably the latter. Some people consider you to be a flagrant racist. I don't know if this is true or not, but you are either stultifyingly ignorant or deliberately disingenuous.

You've already asked me about people in Africa. I answered:
Dying in a ditch next to them due to malnutrition /​dehydration /​polio or other preventable diseases, etc, already killed in a war /​by drone attacks, etc, working seventy hours a week for two dollars a day to grow ‘cash crops’ that are sold to make repayments against debt that can never be repaid. And so on.

To which you answered:
I honestly do not understand why i really don’t…

If you can't understand what I wrote above then you shouldn't be here because to all intent and purpose you can't read and write. I don't believe you're that stupid, though. I will remind you that you're on your final warning:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/The-Community-Ch...html?start=180#90675

Please don't waste the very intelligent Lesley's time by asking her who 'they' are when it's already been explained in an earlier post. If you post any more derailing nonsense on this thread, I will report you. As far as I'm concerned, you should have been banned by now, anyway.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 07 Jan 2013 23:57 #24

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:

You know...them, those people.

No i don't know them or who they are

I really don't...

But good to see you back Lesley...
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 07 Jan 2013 23:59 #25

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
The technology isn't the problem and in theory, transhumanism has a lot of potential to change the world for the better. We could incorporate computers into our evolution, why not? It's just the people in control who are going to use it for selfish purposes. That's always the problem.

As WUB said, it's not for the plebs. We might get some funky little gadgets and toys thrown to us to keep us entertained and distracted. They don't give a toss about some poor bastard with dysentry starving in a ditch somewhere in Africa at the moment, and that's unlikely to change in the future.

Who are "they"?

You know...them, those people.

What Leslie said, you know, "them"
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 00:12 #26

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I don't think we've properly met .….…..

Unless we have. If we have then hi.

Anyway, whoever "they" are kind of depends on your own beliefs about how the world works. It could be the Illuminati, Satanists, Joos, Bildebergers or bankers.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 00:16 #27

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An interesting channel 4 documentary on the subject of (scientifically achieveable) immortality, worth a watch.

truth-zone.co.uk/ - the other place...

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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 00:18 #28

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'They' are not 'us'.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 00:22 #29

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Please don't waste the very intelligent Lesley's time by asking her who 'they' are when it's already been explained in an earlier post. If you post any more derailing nonsense on this thread, I will report you. As far as I'm concerned, you should have been banned by now, anyway.

Hey, someone called me intelligent. :hypo:
Thanks buddy. :chuckle:
Last Edit: 08 Jan 2013 00:23 by LesleyPumpshaft.
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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
I don't think we've properly met .….…..

Unless we have. If we have then hi.

Anyway, whoever "they" are kind of depends on your own beliefs about how the world works. It could be the Illuminati, Satanists, Joos, Bildebergers or bankers.

Ok thanks Lesley i just wasn't sure if you were specifically talking about the pro-transhumanist people.

Thank you for clearing that up and sorry for my confusion.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 00:28 #31

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Hey, someone called me intelligent. :hypo:
Thanks buddy. :chuckle:
Well, you know, you gave me that sit on my hand tip it was the least I could do...
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 00:31 #32

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A bit of ​transhumanist trivia here...

William Shatner has been very vocal in his support of ​transhumanism.
Last Edit: 08 Jan 2013 00:32 by LesleyPumpshaft.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 12:17 #33

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As for the kid in Africa who is dying in a ditch, where are the parents to take care of (s)he so the kid can have a good life?

lol, the people of africa used to be self sufficient until they all got herded by war into areas where they could not sustain themselves, quite deliberately.
Just as the chagossian islanders were self sufficient until they got forced onto boats with revoked citizenship and no means of sustaining themselves in a foreign land.

Exact same principle. Self sufficiency depends upon many things and its very easy to break the cycle they depend upon.
If you stick hundreds of thousands of people into camps in the desert and make them reliant on 'aid' convoys and have wars going on all around them then they're going to have a bit of a tough time and parents alone won't make much of a dent on that.

Its ironic tbh as the country is rich in resources and has been raped to pieces for it all, yet the people there have hardly seen any benefit from it.
Again an artificially deliberately created scenario to maintain an economic paradigm.
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 12:40 #34

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I've been looking at BCI info this morning.

I'm not too keen to have one of these things stuck in my head.

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Needs a longer lead.
Si me puede disparar los conejos, a continuación, puedo disparar fascistas
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 12:53 #35

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hugorune wrote:
I've been looking at BCI info this morning.

I'm not too keen to have one of these things stuck in my head.

400px BrainGate


Needs a longer lead.

Now if it were bluetooth.....
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2045 Strategic Social Initative 08 Jan 2013 14:00 #36

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"Being polite" is ideologically a very conservative position.
If everyone is polite, then they could retain outdated, erroneous assumptions for centuries, and everyone would be too polite to contradict them.
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Hey, someone called me intelligent. :hypo:
Thanks buddy. :chuckle:
Well, you know, you gave me that sit on my hand tip it was the least I could do...

You can have that one for free.
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