Oh WUB, you're such a pesky pessimist! If you ever see Russel eating a bag of chips, be sure to have a piss on them before he's finished!
Unfortunately, I agree.
The little hope we have is that practically everybody (apart from the elitists who want this) wake up to what's happening (esp. including military /police order takers) and refuse to participate any more for their own good. We know that's not going to happen though, because they've simply been conditioned to obey for their own meal ticket, and the best we can hope for is that by spreading the word some people are more prepared for the inevitable I suppose.
I have to say though at university at the moment there are a considerable amount of youngsters and lecturers (even though my course is totally unrelated) who are switched on to what is going on, and that is encouraging.
We mustn't give up hope.

I think he does know though, he just wouldn't be pinned down on giving the intricate details of a new system because he doesn't assume to have taken into account everybody's input and try to speak on behalf of them which is what MPs do

Space Bandit wrote: Some say 'pessimist', I say 'realist'! I just don't really see a scenario where the establishment realise that we're on to them, and decide to roll over and give up. They have many, many more tricks up their sleeves yet. As you say, it is going to take a massive, concerted effort from a lot of people. Coupled with that, I meet everyday people on a daily basis, and I'm afraid I don't notice any great appetite for wide reaching socio-economic change.

I also think it is criminal to write an article about not voting, without mentioning direct democracy, which we should all be pushing for. This would make some difference if it could be achieved. But you're right that we shouldn't give up hope, having said that I can't see any other likely scenario than the present social trends becoming more ingrained.

oioioi wrote: You're already talking like a follower of a cult*.






*May include typo's*

I think maybe in Russel's case he's just getting going with this kind of topic & there's still a bit further for him to go. It's certainly positive that somebody like him is able to get themselves into positions where they can challenge MPs and the status quo etc while still being fairly mainstream and have a reasonably sized audience.... and he doesn't need to start up his own telly channel or anything like that. I've seen 3 different people post up the Pacman vid on my FB page by people I'd suspected wouldn't be that interested so obviously it's having a degree of impact.

You're just talking crazy. Nobody's more loveable than you, Bats.

feather wrote:
A cult with no leaders has no followers.

I think he does know though, he just wouldn't be pinned down on giving the intricate details of a new system because he doesn't assume to have taken into account everybody's input and try to speak on behalf of them which is what MPs do

, you could see the change in expression on alex jones' face.

andyh wrote:
Dropped like Hitler's when he saw the gas bill?

Space Bandit wrote:
Heh, wasn't quite as unsubtle as that but you could see it for sure
He's probably planning his 'turd in the punchbowl' show for russell brand already.