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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 04 Feb 2014 23:47 #1

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www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/04...r-rejecting-violence
A Ukip MEP believes that British Muslims should sign a special code of conduct and warns that it was a big mistake for Europe to allow "an explosion of mosques across their land".

Gerard Batten, who represents London and is member of the party's executive, told the Guardian on Tuesdaythat he stood by a "charter of Muslim understanding", which he commissioned in 2006.

The document asks Muslims to sign a declaration rejecting violence and says parts of the Qur'an that promote "violent physical Jihad" should be regarded as "inapplicable, invalid and non-Islamic".

Critics said his comments represent the "ugliest side of Ukip" and "overlap with the far-right", in spite of the efforts of party leader Nigel Farage to create a disciplined election machine ahead of the European elections.

Asked on Tuesday about the charter, Batten told the Guardian he had written it with a friend, who is an Islamic scholar, and could not see why "any reasonable, normal person" would object to signing it.
Yeah, we're libertarians. Of course, we want you to sign a state-sanctioned code of conduct or we'll kick you out of the country.
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 00:16 #2

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If he had said that all Abrahamic religions are outdated and have no place in a enlightened society because much of the literature promotes rape,murder,homophobia,slavery,a psychotic jealous god and other anti human actions he might have a point but he didn't.

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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 00:20 #3

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humanspirit wrote:
If he had said that all Abrahamic religions are outdated and have no place in a enlightened society because much of the literature promotes rape,murder,homophobia,slavery,a psychotic jealous god and other anti human actions he might have a point but he didn't.

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It's the UKIP, hs... not some parallel universe :psketti:
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 00:25 #4

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Not sure why i put enlightened society.LOL

I am definitely fooling myself with that one.
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 00:37 #5

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Leaving aside the obvious, would you like to know what the genius who came up with this idea has missed?

Whether or not you're a Muslim is a completely abstract concept. Anyone can claim or claim not to be a Muslim. Asking whether someone is a Muslim is pointless because you can just say that you're not a Muslim, and it's impossible to prove otherwise. That's before you go into whether or not there's any point in asking someone "are you going to carry out Jihad?" Yes, I am...oh shit, I shouldn't have said that.

There's a joke in The Simpsons where Homer, Smithers and Burns enter Cuba and they fill in a form in which they're asked their purpose for visiting. "Business / Pleasure / Assassinate Castro". It's rather like that.
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 00:43 #6

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That's before you go into whether or not there's any point in asking someone "are you going to carry out Jihad?" Yes, I am...oh shit
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 00:58 #7

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Actually, I got it slightly wrong, I haven't watched that episode for a while.

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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 01:06 #8

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Not like you to get anything Simpsons related wrong WUB... you're slipping lad :coffee:
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 01:37 #9

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psketti wrote:
Not like you to get anything Simpsons related wrong WUB... you're slipping lad :coffee:
I know, I know, I'm more than disgusted with myself. That was never one of my favourites, I've only probably watched it about six times.
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 02:09 #10

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
psketti wrote:
Not like you to get anything Simpsons related wrong WUB... you're slipping lad :coffee:
I know, I know, I'm more than disgusted with myself. That was never one of my favourites, I've only probably watched it about six times.


That's your homework.

You have until Friday :coffee:
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 02:15 #11

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Their own vetting system OTOH is just great. :coffee:
A man who served as UKIP's Commonwealth spokesman for a year is the former leader of a kidnapping gang in Pakistan, BBC Newsnight can reveal.

Mujeeb ur Rehman Bhutto's gang were behind a high-profile kidnapping in Karachi in 2004 and he then took a £56,000 ransom payment in Manchester.

In 2005, Bhutto, of Leeds, admitted being the gang's "boss" and was jailed for seven years by a UK court.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26019668

It's not like they want Muslims to wear yellow crescents or anything. I mean they're not Nazis
The UK Independence Party’s Harrogate chairman has resigned saying it was now a “professional political party” not suited to “amateurs” like him.

John Upex, who was due to be UKIP’s candidate at next year’s General Election, said he did not want to embarrass the party.

He has expressed controversial views on his website including describing recent immigration as an attempt to “destroy Britishness” and compared the movement of people in the European Union to the way “the Nazis moved ethnic Germans into the occupied territories of Poland - and the Israelis are establishing Jewish Settlements in the occupied territories.”

Mr Upex has also suggested that the entrance of Poland to the EU amounted to the reunification of “Bismark’s Reich

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics...m_source=twitterfeed

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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 02:21 #12

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Where to begin... :facepalm:
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I tend to avoid polls and just general party information... but I'm curious now - how popular are these fuckers?
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psketti wrote:
I tend to avoid polls and just general party information... but I'm curious now - how popular are these fuckers?

It is expected UKIP will win the election for the EU parliament in May, beating Labour and pushing the Tories into third place.

So VERY popular, is the answer.
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Verlander wrote:
psketti wrote:
I tend to avoid polls and just general party information... but I'm curious now - how popular are these fuckers?

It is expected UKIP will win the election for the EU parliament in May, beating Labour and pushing the Tories into third place.

So VERY popular, is the answer.


Is that a serious answer :psketti:

WTF
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 02:43 #16

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Don't believe the hype.

Ukip as much chance of winning European elections as finding alien life on Mars, say British public
Monday 27 January 2014
Despite Nigel Farage's prediction that the UK Independence party will cause an “earthquake” in British politics at the European Parliament elections, Britons give Ukip as much chance of winning as finding life on Mars.

Ipsos MORI’s research reveals what the British public think is likely to happen in 2014 compared with the odds offered by Ladbrokes. Only three in ten think it is likely that they will be the largest party, the same as think the NASA Mars Rover will find evidence of life on Mars, according to the pollsters' representative sample of 954 adults.
www.independent.co.uk/incoming/ukip-as-m...-public-9087515.html

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psketti wrote:
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It is expected UKIP will win the election for the EU parliament in May, beating Labour and pushing the Tories into third place.

So VERY popular, is the answer.


Is that a serious answer :psketti:

WTF

Every politics programme I've seen suggests UKIP have an excellent chance of winning. The polls suggest it will be a close run thing though between UKIP and Labour.

Don't forget the voting system is PR for the EU election, not first past the post.
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UKIP Really are Utter Idiots 05 Feb 2014 03:03 #18

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Well UKIP was quite popular on DIF. But then again so was the TPV. :gleek:

It gets a disproportionate amount of press with regards to its actual support partly because they have lots of chums in rags like the Express and the Telegraph and partly because mentalists make news. (e.g. gays cause floods, holocaust was perpetrated by Jews, women do crap at competitive things etc)
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Most recent poll for the Euro elections :

Lab 32%
UKIP 26%
Con 23%
LibDem 9%

It may be that Farage peaked too early and will not get his wish of being the largest UK party in Europe. Still, second place would not be bad for a party which had only been around for 10 years.
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That's odd. The 30th of Jan 2004 this Yougov poll says
CON 32%, LAB 42%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%.

What's your source?

ETA: ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8606
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