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Test Workers for Drugs Use! 10 Feb 2013 12:59 #81

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I call these institutionalised types, "The Forever Young Brigade" We have helped many such manify to realise their worth of themselves, by re-educating their minds to see that there is another paradigm that this course of action brings, this is where the saying "Help those who wants to help themselves" comes into play.

We all have something to offer, yet seemingly and as Icke says, have forgot who we are, thus do not know how to behave in ways that benefits their whole, because each action benefits another, take this traight away through institutions and the system is fragmented, corrupt, defunct, and can take hundreds of years in which to recover.

My eldest cousin is a result of such directions, he got cleverer and cleverer and in the end knows nothing because he is always catching up with the perpetuality of the educational paradigm, today he has letters after his name, but nothing.
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Test Workers for Drugs Use! 10 Feb 2013 14:13 #82

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Fuck me let me guess some 30 something uni grad wrecked out of his nut for 5 yrs who gets all his experience from books :killinme:

Nope. Wish I was still in my fucking thirties! Though I have been to university a couple of times.
Of course its relevant you fool of the inherent dangers of homeless people, the safety nets they have in the west ie you handing out your bowls of soup :roll: compared to the dangers and poverty of the African homeless .

Why is it relevant? The experience of an African person is totally removed. It is their experience in that place. A 13 year old in a South Asian sweatshop sewing trainers all day for a couple of dollars wouldn't care if it were pointed out somebody in Africa might be literally starving or that at least they've got a roof over their head as somebody sleeping in a Bradford doorway in the snow hasn't. Why should a homeless person in the UK care what's happening in Africa? Is it supposed to somehow make their life better or justify their predicament in some crazy fashion? I think it far more pertinent to their predicament to point out some of their countrymen are multi-millionaire tax dodgers who wish to destroy what safety net there is supposedly on the basis we can't afford it while they fleece the public purse of billions.
The UK only got a safety net in the first place because people fought for it. It is currently being incrementally removed. Largely because 'I'm alright jack' types like you might say retarded things like well there are children starving in Africa you know.... Are you going to post a Daily Mail article about benefits scroungers for an encore?

If you actually think the so-called 'safety net' actually catches everyone, then I think you might have been spending too long globetrotting and lost touch.

Hmm as they say travel broadens the horizons

If so, how come it evidently failed in your case?
As for educutun :roll: when I was at school only very few stayed on to the 6th form, the swots. Now for the last 25yrs every fuckers at uni :pmsl: Drugging it up, pissing it up, then wondering why they cant get jobs stacking shelves at Tescos :killinme:

Were I young today, I would never have gone to university because I come from a family who could not afford to subsidise me and would not have wished to spend my working life paying off an enormous debt. Access to education is something that is being pushed towards something it is far easier for the affluent to access whereas previously everybody could access education up to degree level.

So earlier you claimed 10% of ex service people are homeless. You claimed you know this because of "studies". So you go around claiming Oooooh I've lived me. Nobody knows the world like what I do. I've been to loads of countries and met a miniscule proportion of the people living there in a particular context so I know all about everything, but then you happily cite "studies" when it suits. Who does "studies" - "swots" do studies don't they? And you're happy to use bookworms as a source of authority when it suits. Because obviously while personal experience is very important and can be very valuable, the thoughts, research and data collection of other people is also valuable isn't it?

But hey - who gives a fuck about homeless ex-service people anyway? People are far worse off in Africa, right? I'll make sure if I encounter a homeless ex-services guy, I'll tell him he's got nothing to worry about because people are worse off in Africa. Why did you even bring it up? Fuck 'em - right?

I'd say you've probably had lots of interesting experiences that are worth hearing. unfortunately, you appear locked into a somewhat solipsistic mindset whereby you apparently find it difficult to see beyond your own experiences and understand that of others.

Throughout history, educated people have been considered problematic. For example, when the Nazis invaded Poland, they liquidated the intelligentsia and planned long term to keep the Polish masses educated only enough to work for them - stifling a broader education that would cause them to think about their situation would increase the likelihood of rebellion. In the early 20th century, working men's associations would club together to buy books and/or thrift editions would be published so the working classes could educate themselves and thus be better equipped to stick up for themselves. Of course that's a certain sort of education, not teaching people just how to assemble circuit boards or market iPhones. And of course everything we know about the past is the product of people being educated enough to make sense of it and you certainly can't hop on a plane and go visit 1941 or whenever.

I think you would be well served by actually broadening your mind, not assuming it's happened by default just because you've been to lots of countries.
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Test Workers for Drugs Use! 10 Feb 2013 14:16 #83

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Don't you be trying to edumicate him DM
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Test Workers for Drugs Use! 10 Feb 2013 14:53 #84

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dogsmilk wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:

Fuck me let me guess some 30 something uni grad wrecked out of his nut for 5 yrs who gets all his experience from books :killinme:

Nope. Wish I was still in my fucking thirties! Though I have been to university a couple of times.
Of course its relevant you fool of the inherent dangers of homeless people, the safety nets they have in the west ie you handing out your bowls of soup :roll: compared to the dangers and poverty of the African homeless .

Why is it relevant? The experience of an African person is totally removed. It is their experience in that place. A 13 year old in a South Asian sweatshop sewing trainers all day for a couple of dollars wouldn't care if it were pointed out somebody in Africa might be literally starving or that at least they've got a roof over their head as somebody sleeping in a Bradford doorway in the snow hasn't. Why should a homeless person in the UK care what's happening in Africa? Is it supposed to somehow make their life better or justify their predicament in some crazy fashion? I think it far more pertinent to their predicament to point out some of their countrymen are multi-millionaire tax dodgers who wish to destroy what safety net there is supposedly on the basis we can't afford it while they fleece the public purse of billions.
The UK only got a safety net in the first place because people fought for it. It is currently being incrementally removed. Largely because 'I'm alright jack' types like you might say retarded things like well there are children starving in Africa you know.... Are you going to post a Daily Mail article about benefits scroungers for an encore?

If you actually think the so-called 'safety net' actually catches everyone, then I think you might have been spending too long globetrotting and lost touch.

Hmm as they say travel broadens the horizons

If so, how come it evidently failed in your case?
As for educutun :roll: when I was at school only very few stayed on to the 6th form, the swots. Now for the last 25yrs every fuckers at uni :pmsl: Drugging it up, pissing it up, then wondering why they cant get jobs stacking shelves at Tescos :killinme:

Were I young today, I would never have gone to university because I come from a family who could not afford to subsidise me and would not have wished to spend my working life paying off an enormous debt. Access to education is something that is being pushed towards something it is far easier for the affluent to access whereas previously everybody could access education up to degree level.
Unfortunately, there is also a pervasive

So earlier you claimed 10% of ex service people are homeless. You claimed you know this because of "studies". So you go around claiming Oooooh I've lived me. Nobody knows the world like what I do. I've been to loads of countries and met a miniscule proportion of the people living there in a particular context so I know all about everything, but then you happily cite "studies" when it suits. Who does "studies" - "swots" do studies don't they? And you're happy to use bookworms as a source of authority when it suits. Because obviously while personal experience is very important and can be very valuable, the thoughts, research and data collection of other people is also valuable isn't it?

But hey - who gives a fuck about homeless ex-service people anyway? People are far worse off in Africa, right? I'll make sure if I encounter a homeless ex-services guy, I'll tell him he's got nothing to worry about because people are worse off in Africa. Why did you even bring it up? Fuck 'em - right?

I'd say you've probably had lots of interesting experiences that are worth hearing. unfortunately, you appear locked into a somewhat solipsistic mindset whereby you apparently find it difficult to see beyond your own experiences and understand that of others.

Throughout history, educated people have been considered problematic. For example, when the Nazis invaded Poland, they liquidated the intelligentsia and planned long term to keep the Polish masses educated only enough to work for them - stifling a broader education that would cause them to think about their situation would increase the likelihood of rebellion. In the early 20th century, working men's associations would club together to buy books and/or thrift editions would be published so the working classes could educate themselves and thus be better equipped to stick up for themselves. Of course that's a certain sort of education, not teaching people just how to assemble circuit boards or market iPhones. And of course everything we know about the past is the product of people being educated enough to make sense of it and you certainly can't hop on a plane and go visit 1941 or whenever.

I think you would be well served by actually broadening your mind, not assuming it's happened by default just because you've been to lots of countries.
Of course you been to uni a few times it shows :killinme:
So now your saying everybody who goes to uni now needs a rich family to subsidise them :killinme: What a load of bollox. Ever heard of working to pay the bills or being innovative ?? Every thing needs to be on a plate now :roll:
So when you went it was free and you just got wrecked nice 1 but hey each to there own I guess.

Im sure if you tell any homeless person there are worse people off than them they will agree and tell them to sort themselves out while your at it. Trouble is its "all oh its not your fault its the bad system blah blah blah". Record it on your phone see what response you get, would make a good video :D

So yourself as part of the "intelligentsia " and the working class need to educate themselves to stick up for themselves :killinme: Did you stand on the street corner selling the Socialist Workers Party paper as well.

I suppose its all the governments fault eh :roll:

So what happend with all this education then ? Same Governments, same working class :think:
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Test Workers for Drugs Use! 10 Feb 2013 15:15 #85

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
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I'm sure a homeless person would recognise there s somebody worse off than themselves. And? A person who has been raped could have been gang raped and then murdered and could recognise this - so should we tell rape victims to pull themselves together and get on with it? A British soldier who has had both legs blown off will have Western medical care and will be better off than an African soldier who has had both legs and an arm blown off - so should we tell him to pull himself together, get in his wheelchair and get a fucking job?

It seems apparent to me that you in actuality have very limited life experience as you seem unable to grasp that many people's lives are not simply a matter of pulling themselves together and achieving wealth and glory as some kind of Randian hero. Many homeless people are indeed trying to sort themselves out -unfortunately the resources that help them do this are in many cases sadly limited. I mean, does the word "empathy" mean anything to you, or is that just something swots understand?

I was at a hostel a few weeks ago when this homeless couple turned up - she was pregnant. The hostel was full. They'd already been down the housing and they had nowt. So off into the snow they went. Bring feckless wasters, they'd completely failed to get a high powered job and buy a studio apartment of course.

i would not of have gone to university today because running up an enormous debt would have really necessitated engaging in study that would have maximised the chances of employment. Well I did a professionall course at postgrad, but my degree was simply what I wanted to do - to broaden my mind. Personally, I would not be prepared to get myself into massive debt for the benefit of the boss - that's like handing the fuckers your wages back.

This oooh just pull yourself together and get on attitude simply serves those far more rich and powerful than you are and you really only believe it because without you realising it they told you to believe it. If you were educated you might have realised. ;)

Though just to add, being "educated" doesn't necessarily mean going to university and stuff. There is a strong tradition of independent education. Which you should like as it's, y'know, getting on yer bike to learn for yourself and stuff. I reckon most of my most valuable learning' has occurred outside formal education.

For the record, Socialist Worker gets on my tits.
So what happend with all this education then ? Same Governments, same working class

Eh? Have you been locked in some capsule since the 1980s or something?
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Test Workers for Drugs Use! 10 Feb 2013 15:32 #86

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dogsmilk wrote:

Eh? Have you been locked in some capsule since the 1980s or something?

In a way, nail on the head there dogs. :D

From my experience, being around people that have been institutionalised for so long and trying to reason with them is akin to banging your head against an iron spiked wall.
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I left school at 16, was NFA for a number of years...and then went to uni.

I've never killed a man in order to put bread on the table though.

I've never wanked a pig either.

Am I man enough merc?
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I left school at 16, was NFA for a number of years...and then went to uni.

I've never killed a man in order to put bread on the table though.

I've never wanked a pig either.

Am I man enough merc?

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oioioi wrote:
I left school at 16, was NFA for a number of years...and then went to uni.

I've never killed a man in order to put bread on the table though.

I've never wanked a pig either.

Am I man enough merc?

Well hello :kisskiss:










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