Sanctum Zone

Keyword
A+ A A-
Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC: “US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 17 Sep 2013 18:45 #321

  • Gilly
  • Gilly's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Psychic Assassin
  • Posts: 11225
  • Thank you received: 6506
  • Karma: 99
knobmeup wrote:
I did try to get Hague held accountable Rep. It was yet another lesson in how these fuckers are above the law :mad:

But all credit to you for trying, and I think it'd be a different story if a good number of people showed the same backbone.

@ Mikey - Pilger's one of the very few people who I trust to tell it like it is.
Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]
Last Edit: 17 Sep 2013 18:46 by Gilly.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: mikey mikey, dubmeup

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 17 Sep 2013 22:13 #322

  • dubmeup
  • dubmeup's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 3239
  • Thank you received: 2296
  • Karma: 0
I've just been reading a bit of the Brown Moses blog. The one that all the journos refer to when they want info on munitions and stuff in Syria.
brown-moses.blogspot.co.uk/

I may do some searching as to his back story at some point.
However there is a glaringly obvious point that the journos don't seem to question him on.
I think the video of rebels using the mortar dubbed the 'hell cannon' has already been posted in this thread but here it is again:

. He regularly states in his blog that the hell cannon (homemade rebel weapon) is not a CW delivery system. He states that the gas bottle 'warhead' is filled with a fertilizer based explosive, not CW.
Ok, so lets take a look at what he dubs the UMLACA (Unidentified Munition Linked to Alleged Chemical Attacks) as reported to be used by Assad's forces.
He rather kindly provides a diagram:
330mm Chemrocket Diagram 2

Note that this weapon can be filled with either CW or high explosives. It has more than one use. Note too the similarity in design to the hell cannon's projectiles.

So the glaringly obvious question is, if the UMLACA can be filled with either explosives or CWs, does not the similarly designed projectile used with a hell cannon also have the same potential?

I suggest the answer to that would be yes, it does. It's just about what you shove in the cannister at the end.

If the answer is yes then the rebels do in fact have a homemade system capable of delivering CWs at least over short range. Without the need for any help from bandy bush and his ilk...

Why have the MSM journos who rely so heavily on this Brown Moses not questioned this? That is if they are a part of a 'free' press.
Is it not possible that the UMLACAs found after the 21st did not carry CWs but instead, explosives? Yes it is.
Is it not possible that hell cannon mortars too landed in the area at that time, perhaps rammed with Sarin? Yes it is.
The fact that these UMLACAs have been found to have sarin on them is not proof that they delivered the stuff. It's proof they came into contact with it. Which ofc they would have. Everything in the area would have....

What I am getting at is that the proof that the US, UK and France state to be contained in the UN report, is not proof at all......
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
Last Edit: 17 Sep 2013 22:34 by dubmeup.
You must register to post here.

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 20 Sep 2013 07:58 #323

  • dubmeup
  • dubmeup's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 3239
  • Thank you received: 2296
  • Karma: 0
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24167762

Regardless of the motivations behind this latest development, surely we must back any potential ceasefire.

Note that the US, through it's whore mouthpeice Kerry, maintains it's stance, even in the face of this news....
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
You must register to post here.

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 23 Sep 2013 00:06 #324

  • Black Cloud
  • Black Cloud's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Go Boil An Egg....
  • Posts: 2658
  • Thank you received: 1227
  • Karma: 22
This about sums it up......

I Speak Four Languages Sarcasm English Profanity, And Real Shit...

When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.
Joseph Stalin
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: psketti, dubmeup

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 23 Sep 2013 12:11 #325

  • angelchemuel
  • angelchemuel's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 2901
  • Thank you received: 1356
  • Karma: 11
Black Cloud wrote:
This about sums it up......


:bravo:

Yup, pretty much does! Nice find BC
:jane:
Jane
"love it better"
the more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war
You must register to post here.

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 24 Sep 2013 20:13 #326

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
RE: Obama's speech to the UN


Questioning the US (and UK/French etc) and their unfounded claim that it was Assad's forces that were responsible for August 21st's CW attack is an “insult to human reason,”


And why?


“The danger for the world is that the United States, after a decade of war, rightly concerned about issues back home, aware of the hostility that our engagement in the region has engendered throughout the Muslim world, may disengage – creating a vacuum of leadership that no other nation is ready to fill.”


because..


“I believe America is exceptional. In part because we have shown a willingness through the sacrifice of blood and treasure to stand up not only for our own narrow self-interest, but for the interest of all,”


There you have it folks.


The US is the leader and an irreplaceable leader. It is exceptional and their interests are the interests of the World. And to question this is to insult not just America but Human Reason.
thank you St Jude for favours granted
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: psketti, dubmeup

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 24 Sep 2013 20:51 #327

  • LightGiver
  • LightGiver's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 4238
  • Thank you received: 396
  • Karma: 0
Is the West and Everyone else going to get rid of their WMDs..Still Looking George..


Aukai Collins, born on February 13, 1974, also known as Aqil Collins, is an American of Irish descent who converted to Islam and fought with Islamic Chechen irregulars of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. He was wounded in combat with elements of a Russian Spetsnaz unit from which he subsequently lost his leg.. About 30 minutes into the film, police say, around 12:30 am,he re-entered the theater through the exit door. He was dressed in black and wore a gas mask, a load-bearing vest (not to be confused with a bulletproof vest), a ballistic helmet, bullet-resistant legging...
The ONF emerged in the early 1980s when young radicals such as Nick Griffin, Derek Holland, Patrick Harrington and David Kerr became attracted to Third Position ideas and, eschewing the route of electoral politics favoured by the National Front up to that point, hoped to develop a cadre of devoted nationalist revolutionaries..Emphasising a strong anti-capitalist as well as anti-communist line, the ONF began to emerge as the most powerful group within the NF after the series of splits in late 1979 and early 1980..The Jewish National Front (Hebrew: חזית יהודית לאומית‎, Hazit Yehudit Leumit), commonly known in Israel by its Hebrew acronym, Hayil (Hebrew: חי"ל), is a far-right political party in Israel...Founded in the late 1940s by Mohammad Mossadegh, the National Front was a political coalition comprising a broad spectrum of parties and associations. The most important groups in the Front were the Iran Party, the Toilers Party, the National Party, and the Tehran Association of Bazaar Trade and Craft Guilds...

TFC1 1


Adrienne Mayor, a classical folklorist, proposes that the griffin was an ancient misconception derived from the fossilized remains of the Protoceratops found in gold mines in the Altai mountains of Scythia, in present day southeastern Kazakhstan, or in Mongolia..The griffin is a legendary creature with the body, tail, and back legs of a lion; the head and wings of an eagle; and an eagle's talons as its front feet...

Oh my papa's got money - Oh my papa's got slaves + Oh my papa's got power - He has fun with bombs and guns, oh how Kinky...

You talk about the left wing You talk about the right wing Being nothing's getting pretty frightening - We go to demonstrations + We picket rocket stations - And then we try to bomb the installation..

Oh my mama, don't worry Oh my mama, I'm sorry Oh my mama loves her sherry She wears gloves when she makes love + Knees up mother brown..Nice cup of tea in the morning..Now you're here and now you're gone...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_National_Front
sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Medical-Establis...html?start=40#130715 I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, molecular Acid..Ash is a god damn robot.. It must be using it for blood...You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you + Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility...We ain't outta here in 10 minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space...sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/spirituality-rel...html?start=60#128873
The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you.. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!
You must register to post here.

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 25 Sep 2013 17:10 #328

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
:killinme: :killinme:
thank you St Jude for favours granted
Last Edit: 25 Sep 2013 17:10 by mikey mikey.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: psketti, andyh, oioioi

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 25 Sep 2013 19:03 #329

  • psketti
  • psketti's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Hired help
  • Rankadmin
  • we cant stop here, this is dog country
  • Posts: 15528
  • Thank you received: 5668
  • Karma: 100
:D
the anorak hides the fact that sean is composed of 95% vaginas
You must register to post here.

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 27 Sep 2013 07:56 #330

  • dubmeup
  • dubmeup's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 3239
  • Thank you received: 2296
  • Karma: 0
I note that the draft UN resolution includes Chapter VII provision. So the Russians essentially caved in...
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
You must register to post here.

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 01 Jan 2014 10:30 #331

  • dubmeup
  • dubmeup's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 3239
  • Thank you received: 2296
  • Karma: 0
And now, true to form, enough time has elapsed for the official line to unravel :facepalm:
www.globalresearch.ca/nyt-backs-off-its-...rin-analysis/5363023
For months, the “slam-dunk” evidence “proving” Syrian government guilt in the Aug. 21 Sarin attack near Damascus was a “vector analysis” pushed by the New York Times showing where the rockets supposedly were launched. But the Times now grudgingly admits its analysis was flawed.

An interesting read. Not only for it's news regarding the Syria issue but also a it sheds a bit more light on media propaganda practices.

The lie was told big and loud. Front page for days. Drive the message home. In this instance a rebuttal of the lie came forth so.....print it small and do your best to hide it ;)
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: andyh, Gilly
Moderators: psketti, oioioi, batou
Time to create page: 0.159 seconds

Latest Members Blogs

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Prev Next

What is going on when it comes to 9-11 I…

The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

Read more

9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

Read more

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

Read more

Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
donation thermometer
56%
Most Recent Donation:
$122 USD on 4th Jan 2021
Bitcoin Address: bc1q0kazqya0nurfxtunxv807vm0m8852nnrrk8mj8
 
Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.

TradeZone Latest

Visitors

Today102
Yesterday282
Week1831
Month1831
Total1055680

Your IP Address: 216.73.216.244 Your Browser and OS: Unknown - Unknown Saturday, 06 June 2026 08:01

Who Is Online

Guests : 845 guests online Members : No members online
© 2012 – 2021 Sanctum Zone | All rights reserved. This website is a place for people to express and discuss their views on the news and world events. DISCLAIMER: Please Note: Views expressed and submitted by contributors are their own personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions and beliefs of the Sanctum Zone website and its founder(s) , administrators , moderators , and any other website maintenance technicians, personnel and volunteers. Articles and messages posted on this website and forum are solely the opinion of their authors.

Login or Register

LOG IN

Register

User Registration
or Cancel