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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 26 Jul 2012 16:32 #41

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psketti wrote:
He posted this nine days ago.

How long would any of us be around for if we made such a clip?


Oh Yuck! that is so mind-controlled turned into a freak... his backdrop is like the back of Corination Street... ( trying to get Corrie watchers into this shite)

I really think they mind-controlled him when he went to yanky land and thought he could do what he wanted, he ended up in gaol/jail , and he is not himself anymore. He is saying exactly the opposite of what he ever said b4. Now ... a british resistance that does not exist... wot the f !
This is total crap... wtf has happened to him, i reckon some sort of mind control in jail. He changed completely. He is so weird now, i hope nobody gets sucked in.

Really horrible clip, indeed. Freaked out by what he is supposedly like now. YUK ! :pissed:
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 27 Jul 2012 15:10 #42

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I didn't really have a strong opinion about Veitch, folks used to post his "Love Police" vids on the DIF and I watched a few. I didn't really think of him as a "truth" or "conspiracy" kind of person, he was more attention seeking, and had little things to offer about who was allowed to do what, and where they could do it. More guerilla comedy than anything. A humanist. But it did strike me as odd that he all of a sudden became a spokesperson for the official story of 9 - 11, and made a big deal about mocking "truthers" and that kind of thing.

I've said this before, but I'll say it again; his "change" coincided with his incarceration at the "special" jail in Toronto. He was here for the G8, and he was detained in that jail for a few days. No one seems to know why, maybe it was a pre-emptive strike against someone the authorities may have thought was a serious threat to the security of the summit. Nonetheless he was detained, then returned to England -- not long after that he was renouncing 9 - 11, his videos became very negative, he seemed to do a complete about face. I think he may have been harrassed or threatened, as Canada is nothing more than an appendage of the Queen's empire, and he may be really seen as a problem by the "authorities" in England. I think this is a point to consider when looking at Veitch; something may have happened that forced his change of mind.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 27 Jul 2012 15:48 #43

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I didn't really have a strong opinion about Veitch, folks used to post his "Love Police" vids on the DIF and I watched a few. I didn't really think of him as a "truth" or "conspiracy" kind of person, he was more attention seeking, and had little things to offer about who was allowed to do what, and where they could do it. More guerilla comedy than anything. A humanist. But it did strike me as odd that he all of a sudden became a spokesperson for the official story of 9 - 11, and made a big deal about mocking "truthers" and that kind of thing.

I've said this before, but I'll say it again; his "change" coincided with his incarceration at the "special" jail in Toronto. He was here for the G8, and he was detained in that jail for a few days. No one seems to know why, maybe it was a pre-emptive strike against someone the authorities may have thought was a serious threat to the security of the summit. Nonetheless he was detained, then returned to England -- not long after that he was renouncing 9 - 11, his videos became very negative, he seemed to do a complete about face. I think he may have been harrassed or threatened, as Canada is nothing more than an appendage of the Queen's empire, and he may be really seen as a problem by the "authorities" in England. I think this is a point to consider when looking at Veitch; something may have happened that forced his change of mind.

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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 27 Jul 2012 16:19 #44

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He seemed genuinely shaken up in the videos he released directly after his release in Canada. There was a major shift on his part following that episode. Have there been reports of other people who were retained there suffering a similar shift in their opinions?

I never really had a problem with him prior to the stuff he started coming out with after his detention. The early LP stuff was relevant at the time with regard to expressing opinions in public places etc. but they never developed much beyond that. After the split with Danny the LP gig was pretty pointless and repetitive. It did seem like he was a bit of an attention seeker with aspirations of breaking into a more mainstream market. Ultimately only he knows what his original ambitions were and his current stance may or may not be in line with his original objective. Whatever his intentions may have been I don't think anyone took him overly seriously and now most people don't even consider him or his views at all. He was like some lobotomised moron in the 9-11 comedy show, which totally wrote him off in most peoples minds. He needs to move on and find a new hobby that doesn't involve public speaking or delusions of comedic talent.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 27 Jul 2012 16:45 #45

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Frog wrote:
He seemed genuinely shaken up in the videos he released directly after his release in Canada. There was a major shift on his part following that episode. Have there been reports of other people who were retained there suffering a similar shift in their opinions?

I never really had a problem with him prior to the stuff he started coming out with after his detention. The early LP stuff was relevant at the time with regard to expressing opinions in public places etc. but they never developed much beyond that. After the split with Danny the LP gig was pretty pointless and repetitive. It did seem like he was a bit of an attention seeker with aspirations of breaking into a more mainstream market. Ultimately only he knows what his original ambitions were and his current stance may or may not be in line with his original objective. Whatever his intentions may have been I don't think anyone took him overly seriously and now most people don't even consider him or his views at all. He was like some lobotomised moron in the 9-11 comedy show, which totally wrote him off in most peoples minds. He needs to move on and find a new hobby that doesn't involve public speaking or delusions of comedic talent.

I only watched a few of his vids, never took him seriously, an upper class scot.

but the jail changed him , he got brainwashed, i reckon. very sad.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 28 Jul 2012 13:41 #46

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curtaincat wrote:
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He seemed genuinely shaken up in the videos he released directly after his release in Canada. There was a major shift on his part following that episode. Have there been reports of other people who were retained there suffering a similar shift in their opinions?

I never really had a problem with him prior to the stuff he started coming out with after his detention. The early LP stuff was relevant at the time with regard to expressing opinions in public places etc. but they never developed much beyond that. After the split with Danny the LP gig was pretty pointless and repetitive. It did seem like he was a bit of an attention seeker with aspirations of breaking into a more mainstream market. Ultimately only he knows what his original ambitions were and his current stance may or may not be in line with his original objective. Whatever his intentions may have been I don't think anyone took him overly seriously and now most people don't even consider him or his views at all. He was like some lobotomised moron in the 9-11 comedy show, which totally wrote him off in most peoples minds. He needs to move on and find a new hobby that doesn't involve public speaking or delusions of comedic talent.

I only watched a few of his vids, never took him seriously, an upper class scot.

but the jail changed him , he got brainwashed, i reckon. very sad.

He made a funny video onboard the Toronto subway at rush hour, made some people laugh, the bullhorn etc.... then he was "arrested and detained". After that, he changed his whole tune. I don't know if he has to be brainwashed so much, just paralyzed by fear for the safety of himself and his loved ones.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 29 Jul 2012 13:56 #47

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Yeah, maybe not exactly brainwashed, but he had never been that scared in his life b4 , ever.
It has changed him beyond belief.
This can happen to anyone that is not street-smart ( just thinks they are).

Anyone with power over another can do this to anyone.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 01 Aug 2012 11:07 #48

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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 10 Aug 2012 15:42 #49

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Here's Danny Shine's own take on CV's U-turn:



He expanded on this in his blog at https://dannyshine.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/charlies-911-u-turn-part-2-part-1-is-on.html

The impression I get from Danny and from comments by CV's ex-girlfriend, Silkie, is that CV was a chancer right from the start, who saw a means of making himself the centre of attention and becoming a minor cult figure.

There are a few people who disliked him from the start and gleefully exclaimed "I told you so!" once CV fell from grace. CV should never have been put on a pedestal in the first place. Nobody should be - you're only setting yourself up for a fall if you become a follower rather than a do-er.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 10 Aug 2012 16:54 #50

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... CV should never have been put on a pedestal in the first place. Nobody should be - you're only setting yourself up for a fall if you become a follower rather than a do-er.

G'day DReamweaver.

Good call. :thumbup:


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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 01 Sep 2012 03:00 #51

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I think we should all remember that Veitch and many other so called "spokesmen" of the movement are all just human beings/
And as human beings they all have all to human flaws. Be it ego based or fear based, attention seeking whatever.
None of us are any better are we? We all have flaws too.
Too often we put these people on a pedestal and the stress of that can be too much.
Lets just remember his is a person just like us. A person who did his best to talk about and act on the things he believed in. We can ask no more of anyone. We should not have to take a microscope to their lives or have a check list of points that they need to pass before they are accepted as the real deal. Just treat em like you treat your mate. Listen to em, take in any useful shit they have to say then have a good laugh about the rest of the crap :)
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Why should we ask for any more than that off CV?

Saying that. On a personal; level I expect I would not like him as a mate, just something about him that rubs me up the wrong way. But hey! thats ok cause most people dont like me :D
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 01 Sep 2012 12:59 #52

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curtaincat wrote:
Frog wrote:
He seemed genuinely shaken up in the videos he released directly after his release in Canada. There was a major shift on his part following that episode. Have there been reports of other people who were retained there suffering a similar shift in their opinions?

I never really had a problem with him prior to the stuff he started coming out with after his detention. The early LP stuff was relevant at the time with regard to expressing opinions in public places etc. but they never developed much beyond that. After the split with Danny the LP gig was pretty pointless and repetitive. It did seem like he was a bit of an attention seeker with aspirations of breaking into a more mainstream market. Ultimately only he knows what his original ambitions were and his current stance may or may not be in line with his original objective. Whatever his intentions may have been I don't think anyone took him overly seriously and now most people don't even consider him or his views at all. He was like some lobotomised moron in the 9-11 comedy show, which totally wrote him off in most peoples minds. He needs to move on and find a new hobby that doesn't involve public speaking or delusions of comedic talent.

I only watched a few of his vids, never took him seriously, an upper class scot.

but the jail changed him , he got brainwashed, i reckon. very sad.

Where are you curtiancat?

He had the hard word put on him and it didn't take much for him to turn.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 02 Sep 2012 03:35 #53

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I can't image any hard word put on vietch what new evidence did he come out with 0 it what new evidence could he come out with fuck all
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 02 Sep 2012 04:32 #54

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I kept seeing this topic listed and it made me think about Charlie again. I went to his youtube and watched a couple of videos and then I read some of his blog. He still appears to be an activist as much as he ever was. He still appears to care about injustice. I think the hate aimed at him is misguided perhaps.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 04 Sep 2012 16:16 #55

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Was this the guy that was some kind of media 'puppet' we all know what some of the media are like and the ones who hide behind them. 'camouflage' :)

Nothing but interfering trouble makers some of them.
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 20 Oct 2012 19:58 #56

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veitch is part of the hightgate disinfo mafia led by belinda mckenzie...her home is a meeting place for all the intelligence shills like machon,fetzer,gage,barrett and co...why do they do it? for bucks or is it more deeper than that..are they affiliated to occult groups who have a hidden agenda? i'll keep digging away until i get to the truth...be sure of that
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 20 Oct 2012 20:23 #57

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I don't think he is a fake - rather he is someone who when confronted with contrary evidence to that he previously put stock in had an open enough mind to rethink his beliefs.

That makes him much realer imho - not saying he is right or wrong in his beliefs - just respect anyone who is open to having their beliefs challenged and not so closed minded as to believe what they wish to no matter how much evidence to the contrary is put in front of them.

perhaps because I have no strong views either way over 9/11 it is easier for me to see things in this way
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 20 Oct 2012 20:50 #58

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"occult group who have a hidden agenda" ? nah lol
As for 9/11 I do not think just cause someone does not agree about one subject that he should be ostracized when it comes to all other subjects. That to me stinks of dogma. We are intelligent enough to be able to agree and disagree on different issues but still be able to support each other on the issues we agree on.

HOWEVER
In the case of Charlie Veitch, I do think everyone should be sure to Watch this video so that you can see first hand the lies he has said about the Ian Tomlinson issue.

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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 21 Oct 2012 00:22 #59

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Thoreau's avatar reminds me how Charlie Veitch poked me in the eye once. He claims it was an accident...
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Re: Did you suspect Veitch was a fake ? 21 Oct 2012 22:48 #60

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thoreau wrote:
I don't think he is a fake - rather he is someone who when confronted with contrary evidence to that he previously put stock in had an open enough mind to rethink his beliefs.

That makes him much realer imho - not saying he is right or wrong in his beliefs - just respect anyone who is open to having their beliefs challenged and not so closed minded as to believe what they wish to no matter how much evidence to the contrary is put in front of them.

perhaps because I have no strong views either way over 9/11 it is easier for me to see things in this way

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Blog Hijacked: The Death of The Love PolicePosted by: Charlie | Category: Blog | Date: 4th August, 2011 (12:24am)
Dear Readers,
This is not Charlie. This is the person that knows him better than anyone else.
I felt I needed to tell you all the truth about Charlie, especially since so many of you donated to fund his lifestyle. Please read carefully, save it, repost it if you like. He will delete this blog as soon as he sees it. He has a strong distaste for the truth.
Charlie preached in the streets about love and truth – but these are two values which he does not hold for himself. The majority of those in the government, and in the police force, are better human beings than Charlie is.
Charlie is not hired by MI5, or a paid ‘shill’. The truth is dirtier than that. Put simply, Charlie is a liar and a cheat. He never once practiced what he preached.
He tried to tell you all that his girlfriend, aged 20, was his ‘goddess’ – he came across like a family man, a loving man, an aspirational figure. In reality, he was very, very dark.
He admits that he cheated on every girlfriend that he ever had, from short term to the most serious long term relationships – but when he started the Love Police, he said he realised how wrong this was, and that he was a changed man. This was a sick veneer. At the time, he was cheating on his new girlfriend – the woman you knew to be the other half of the Love Police. The one that tirelessly campaigned to get him out of jail every time he was arrested. We don’t need to go into too much detail – the cheating was continuous, diverse, and relentless.
However – last year, in the honeymood period of his new relationship, he made a video called ‘Jasmine and the Morning Star’, featuring a 15 year old girl. Many of you voiced your concerns about the nature of the filming – it seemed perverted and almost paedophilic. You were right. Luckily, this girl’s mother was a bit wise to him, and accompanied the child to his flat in London, unexpected by him. He tried grooming her nevertheless, whispering to her that they had a special ‘connection’ and so on, but he could not make his sexual move in front of her mother. He had wanted her alone. He finally did get her alone, when the poor girl was only 16 years old. He got her very drunk, took her to his home, and slept with her despite her initial protests, and despite him apparently being in love with his ‘goddess’. Afterwards, the child went to the bathroom to be sick, and called a friend who luckily collected her. The story gets worse. The next day, she was very upset and told her mother. Her 40 year old mother confessed that she too, had been taken out by Charlie, and that he had also slept with her when she was too drunk to know what she was doing – just the night before he slept with her 16 year old child. Yes. I feel incredibly sick too.
He has today posted new videos that he has made with this child. The girl realises now that filming with him again was a mistake, and would like all footage of herself removed. He makes her feel uncomfortable and unsafe. She is aware of his dark, ulterior motives. It is not the first time Charlie has used children. When he was in his early 20s, he had a secret ‘relationship’ with a 14 year old schoolgirl.
Charlie was on a huge ego trip and was prepared to break young, innocent hearts along the way. He cheated with anyone he could get his hands on. He cheated on his ‘goddess’ at every festival he was stupidly given free tickets too – from ‘Sunrise’, to (ironically) ‘TruthJuice’, whilst his girlfriend was taking her university exams. Anyone that knows his ex-girlfriend knows that she devoted herself to him fully, giving pure, true love and dedication – but receiving only deceit in return.
He and this long term girlfriend started living together after the torture of the royal wedding arrest. We all know that she achieved mainstream coverage of the arrest, speaking to broadsheets and broadcasters as big as the BBC, to try to help Charlie. But whilst she was away, he actually cheated on her with their new flatmate who was, again, drunk, initially protested, and who was vulnerable having just come out of a 5 year relationship.
She was suspicious and would often ask if he was being loyal. He lied, and apparently continues to lie, and refuses to apologise. Only he knows how many other people he used, and cheated on her with.
His ‘goddess’ saw that he needed professional help, and offered guidance and forgiveness – but he chose to stay the dark and evil man that he is. Now that the truth has come out about the young girl he was grooming since 15, I know she would not forgive him or love him anyway. Paedophilia is the darkest of all evil. They never change.
Many of you have been dismayed not just by his change of mind about 9/11, but moreover by the treatment of his viewers concerning this change of mind. Now you know that he NEVER was about truth, or love – his whole entertainment of you was a lie. The BBC3 programme features a man of disgrace. He was simply lapping up the attention and donations you gave him, at a loose end after being made redundant in the city. So now, I say, the Love Police is dead. You should all:
Unsubscribe from this blog.
Unsubscribe from his Youtube.
Delete him on Facebook.
Don’t load him with more hate, and certainly not praise – simply ignore him.
And Charlie – take down your Youtube channel. For all of our sake, don’t make anymore videos.
You are a shameful man. You need to seek professional help, and then come back to the people you betrayed and used, and apologise. The truth hurts but it is for the best. You keep convincing yourself that you are a wonderful person, but maybe now that the world knows the truth, you will also be able to look yourself in the mirror and realise what you are and how much hurt you have given those you loved most. You are a liar, a pervert, a fraud, and a cheat.
You used a young, vulnerable child for sex, whilst pretending to be something you are not – she, and her mother, deserve an apology. You took donations from people whilst pretending to be something you are not – they ALL deserve an apology. Finally, your ‘goddess’ donated her whole world, youth, and heart to you, whilst you pretended to be someone you are not – she deserves a sincere apology.
Finally, I apologise sincerely that it came to this. But no more can I witness hero worship, and donations, for a fraudulent man, on a fraudulent basis. There are children dying of disease and starvation that could do with those thousands of pounds we spent on him, to keep them breathing.
I learned that many ‘truthseekers’ in fact thrive on lies. But I maintain that the truth, and love, are the most important values in the world. And I write this only out of truth and love. Sometimes, karma needs help on its way.
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