I might be reading you wrong here, mushy....

Are you saying it is not possible to mindfuck someone into violent craziness in a short period of time? Or, are you saying that military intelligence would never do such a thing? Or both?

Or are you just being unreasonable for the sake of argument, because I get the feeling that even you don't believe what you are saying, I mean come on now, stop being all coy and naive.

By the way, stage hypnosis is not a trick like sawing someone in half. Some people are susceptible to hypnosis.

Can you just get real and stop playing games?

noseymutegirl wrote:
i dont believe anyone can be mind controlled and i dont think this guy was in any way a setup .
clear enough i hope .

again i ask what would the motive be ?
power , gun restrictions scanners ?
is that it , does this attack ensure these things happen and what is the end game if they are put in place ?
an elite group of shadowy people to whom we are enslaved ?
thats very unlikely even the conspiracy community is divided on whos trying to enslave us ,
and who is the good guys ,
its a mess of confusing infactual crap mixed with facts from outside the ct community and 19cold war rubbish

if the ct community is saying these people were killed and injured by their goverment to introduce gun control and tsa scanners then thats in pretty poor taste and if the conspiracy communities think its ok to suggest such insulting unfounded nonsense
then shame on it for ignoring facts and bypassing any hope of a social revolution in favour of some sort of stupid adult child role playing game called conspiracy theories .

noseymutegirl wrote:
In all fairness to mushy, I'm sure some stage hypnotists are fake. Some are legit, and know how to work with the power of suggestion, they do a little test with the volunteers to see if they are good candidates for hypnosis. Those that are not are usually asked to return to their seats. But if we need to discount stage hypnotists, that's fine, because there are legit hypnotherapists, psychologists and psychiatrists who employ hypnotism. I don't think that can be disputed. mushy might attempt to, but I mean no one can legitimately dispute that hypnosis is not real.

A great book about the CIA, LSD and mind control is Acid Dreams.

books.google.ca/books/about/Acid_dreams....R0bdUJcC&redir_esc=y

That was @40 years ago. You can imagine how far along they are now with their methods.

mushy wrote:
Right, the facts. The facts are, this guy went to a crowded movie theatre, fully armed, and wearing body armour. He walked into the theatre, sat down, answered his cell phone, went out through an emergency exit, returned the same way, threw two tear gas canisters and opened fire. Then he was arrested outside. The cops found his apartment to be "booby trapped", then they blew it up yesterday. This isn't a lone nut, someone knew to call him on his cell phone before the shooting began. So right away there's at least one other person involved. He also knew he wouldn't be killed, and would be going to jail, judging by his comment on an online dating service. That's one organized lone nut, wouldn't you say?

No one is disputing that it's horrible to have people die like that. Just questioning why he did it, and the "he was nuts" theory is not a good enough answer here. I remember on CNN after the Oklahoma City bombings, they were looking for "3 middle eastern types fleeing in a pick up truck" Timothy McVeigh did not look Middle eastern. That was another act of terror that was very well organized and carried out by a group of people. A group of US military people. Was McVeigh crazy, or just carrying out orders? It's hard to say at this point. But he was very well organized and was part of a group.

Yes of course this will be used to tighten security everywhere. The article I posted highlighted many instances where it is already taking place. Guns make too much money, and the NRA is too powerful of a lobby group to mess with. installing scanners and CCTV cameras everywhere, and employing extra security to check all bags of people in public places is exactly why they would set something like this up. It's hard to just get people to fall in line and accept a police state, they need to be shocked with a really good reason. Here is a really good reason. An armed gunman just might shoot you. If police were on site, and scanners in place, he never would have gotten by, right?

The David Icke forum is becoming pure Fantasy.

There are people over there who think this batman shooting is all staged, nobody was really shot, it was all actors.

48 hours last night had interview after interview of people in the hospital in Colorado full of bullet wounds.

Mk Ultra or Not the conspiracy world is going way out of control over this.

This is not 9/11 people, Chicago and Philly have more murders then this almost every single weekend.

And that does not mean it's not sad & horrible, i'm far from desensitized.

America has 30,000 gun murders a year so why would the Dark Knight movie shooting change anything?

TPTB know damn well they can't get the guns from all the rednecks who will just bury them on the farm.

TPTB also know damn well that the guns doing murders in the cities are hidden in the abandon homes in the hood.

This country is huge so who is going to confiscate all the guns and how will they do it?

I smell paranoia...

@ RealAmerican

The Batman shooting would change things because it's a big dramatic event with a fairly large number of deaths and injuries. People will remember it. People tend not to really think about a large number of smaller gun crimes, I would imagine they're pretty used to it.
Something on a big scale would sink in to peoples heads more I reckon. And they can call it something as well so that people remember. The Dark Knight Massacre, The Batman shooting, etc etc.

Although to add, why can't one lone guy with no outside help be very well organised? How organised do you need to be to walk into a place and shoot some people? Y'know.

Whether it was organised by tptb, whatever, or just one guy acting alone doesn't really matter because it's a win win for tptb anyway.

Frog wrote:


So you quote cathy o brian who was mind controlled by an MK CIA project so fucking mind controlled she managed to nock 2 books out 10yrs apart OH DEAR...i GOOGLED this just out of curiosity because I love this shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O'Brien 1st item I come across

So ask yourself this...the US military has roughly 1.5 million men and women on active service with a further 1.25 million in reserve.

All weapons trained, some will be crossed trained in weapons, explosives and a variety of other nice skills

Why would the black ops need to recruit some nerdy little fuck wit with no experience , when they could MK a number of operatives all ready highly skilled and just make him disappear ie fire him out of the torpedo tube of a submarine for example ( not the first time btw ).
noseymutegirl wrote:
Tacticts I would never dream of oh dear you have not been paying attention have you

Playing loud music errr and is that not a legitimate tactic for sleep deprivation WACO was not quick 51 days(ty wiki) . If they had listened to the SAS ad visors who were there, well then yes it would of ended quicker.

So when was the last time you sat down with an Intel officer and had a chat then about what goes on behind the scenes ?

As for a warning about theaters being targets..hmmmm well guess what its a place people congregate, closed in with limited entry and exit points which are also funneled its called a " soft target"

Isn't it true that some people just crack/lose it...have access to a gun and go on a killing spree? Nothing more..... no conspiracy.

Sometimes people just want to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

pheony wrote:
Wash your mouth out, missy!

Ab Origine wrote:
Will not.

@ entranger

It wouldn't make sense to MK someone with a military background. They would rather a nerdy fuckwit for the sake of the "random lone wolf nut" thing. It would be suspicious if they used ex military etc. and also wouldn't have the same impact on people. IMO. They don't want him to disappear, they want another famous looney to impact upon peoples consciousness. If it was organised that is.

MK or not, lone nut or not, tptb will see this as an opportunity to tighten the screws. That's what I think.

RealAmerican wrote:
Here is a clue as to how it will go down and they have already had a practice run after Katrina.

Frog wrote:
I'am well aware of what they are saying on info wars.

People need to understand that what happened in Katrina is just one super small part of America.

And obviously all those guns are right back on the street and New Orleans still has gun murders almost everyday

America is huge, no way they could get all the guns.

I would honestly not even worry about it.

entran­ger­mer­cen­ary wrote:
In actual fact I wasn't quoting Cathy O'brian that marker is the start point of that segment. Are you under the delusion that mind control is fiction? Have you actually read about the MK Ultra project which is just one of many such projects probably the most publicised.

If I had been trying to present the case for an assassin rather than the more general concept I would have used this video @54:25...

If you watch the rest of that video other aspects are covered in relation to the MK ultra program as well as other aspects of mind control. The TV is undoubtedly the most successful mass mind control project ever undertaken, and has proven to be extremely successful in dumbing down populations on a global scale.

That's how people are easily fooled into believing that blowing that fuck out of people places like Libya is justifiable and rational. It's pure propaganda which is mind control for the masses, so that they repeat the party line due to implanted misinformation supplied by the media.

Well, this is interesting...

Link is here.

irrepressible wrote: Obviously you will be correct. I wouldn't quite put it so much as "tighten the screws", just that any situation will be exploited. If you look at the absolutely monumental financial fraud that has taken place which caused the supposed 'financial crisis', has anything been done to change things systematically? Actually, yes, the organisations that were instrumental in causing it have been given literally tens of trillions of dollars. And they're still engaging in all of the conduct they did before the supposed 'crisis' began. In terms of taking all the guns in America, obviously this will be very difficult if not impossible, but I'm sure this event will be used for propaganda purposes, as everything that can be conceivably exploited in this way always is. I just head Cameron today talking about Bradley Wiggins as if he fucking cares, or knows anything about cycling. If something positive happens, the ruling-class try to bask in its reflected glory and have it somehow associated with them and the establishment, if something negative happens, they use it to demonise their enemies; absolutely everyone else other than them and their cronies.

RealAmerican wrote:
That information could have come from any number of sources it's documented and factual. So the inference that it's just what they are saying on info wars is simply the introduction of a logical fallacy.

I think people are well aware how big the USA is and like every other country it's made up of smaller communities which can be managed as individual units. Some areas will be considered as greater risks than other areas so it doesn't take a genius to workout that the government will have established the risk and prioritised those areas.

Why do you think they have been conducting lock down maneuvers/exercises in different areas and operations like the one following Katrina? They have also been practicing crowd control using combined military and police forces in cities and at major sporting events.

Do you think they would be giving you people more of a heads up than they need to? Of course things have returned to normal in New Orleans carry on nothing to see here.

They don't need to get all the guns in and they will start small and then increase their activities. If they impose martial law and cut communications people will be unaware of what's happening over the county or state line.

Good luck with that.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Such a rare high level of logic in this post.

You really don't see much of this anymore.

Just had a DIF flashback...