mushy wrote:
noseymutegirl wrote:
I might be reading you wrong here, mushy....
Are you saying it is not possible to mindfuck someone into violent craziness in a short period of time? Or, are you saying that military intelligence would never do such a thing? Or both?
Or are you just being unreasonable for the sake of argument, because I get the feeling that even you don't believe what you are saying, I mean come on now, stop being all coy and naive.
By the way, stage hypnosis is not a trick like sawing someone in half. Some people are susceptible to hypnosis.
Can you just get real and stop playing games?
i dont believe anyone can be mind controlled and i dont think this guy was in any way a setup .
clear enough i hope .
again i ask what would the motive be ?
power , gun restrictions scanners ?
is that it , does this attack ensure these things happen and what is the end game if they are put in place ?
an elite group of shadowy people to whom we are enslaved ?
thats very unlikely even the conspiracy community is divided on whos trying to enslave us ,
and who is the good guys ,
its a mess of confusing infactual crap mixed with facts from outside the ct community and 19cold war rubbish
if the ct community is saying these people were killed and injured by their goverment to introduce gun control and tsa scanners then thats in pretty poor taste and if the conspiracy communities think its ok to suggest such insulting unfounded nonsense
then shame on it for ignoring facts and bypassing any hope of a social revolution in favour of some sort of stupid adult child role playing game called conspiracy theories .

Right, the facts. The facts are, this guy went to a crowded movie theatre, fully armed, and wearing body armour. He walked into the theatre, sat down, answered his cell phone, went out through an emergency exit, returned the same way, threw two tear gas canisters and opened fire. Then he was arrested outside. The cops found his apartment to be "booby trapped", then they blew it up yesterday. This isn't a lone nut, someone knew to call him on his cell phone before the shooting began. So right away there's at least one other person involved. He also knew he wouldn't be killed, and would be going to jail, judging by his comment on an online dating service. That's one organized lone nut, wouldn't you say?
No one is disputing that it's horrible to have people die like that. Just questioning why he did it, and the "he was nuts" theory is not a good enough answer here. I remember on CNN after the Oklahoma City bombings, they were looking for "3 middle eastern types fleeing in a pick up truck" Timothy McVeigh did not look Middle eastern. That was another act of terror that was very well organized and carried out by a group of people. A group of US military people. Was McVeigh crazy, or just carrying out orders? It's hard to say at this point. But he was very well organized and was part of a group.
Yes of course this will be used to tighten security everywhere. The article I posted highlighted many instances where it is already taking place. Guns make too much money, and the NRA is too powerful of a lobby group to mess with. installing scanners and CCTV cameras everywhere, and employing extra security to check all bags of people in public places is exactly why they would set something like this up. It's hard to just get people to fall in line and accept a police state, they need to be shocked with a really good reason. Here is a really good reason. An armed gunman just might shoot you. If police were on site, and scanners in place, he never would have gotten by, right?

in the gloom of a theatre raising your hand to side of your head could look like taking a call
or like i said maybe he used that as an excuse to step away from people and move to fire exits
which unlock from inside guns could be hidden under clothes or outside were he retrieved them
the idea that this was staged lacks a motive or incentive and looks badly planned otherwise apartment would be clean or filled with evidence to incriminate the guy and take pressure off the group suposdley behind it .
reality is often stranger than fiction he is still alive surely he will spill the beans now he has nothing lose and is looking at life in jail if he isnt attacked by inmates (who will no doubt be covert agents sent to assasinate him or some crap )
in either case only the conspiracy and the idea of not knowing or accepting the truth will suffice for some ,