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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 00:10 #141

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I'am well aware of what they are saying on info wars.

That information could have come from any number of sources it's documented and factual. So the inference that it's just what they are saying on info wars is simply the introduction of a logical fallacy.
People need to understand that what happened in Katrina is just one super small part of America.

I think people are well aware how big the USA is and like every other country it's made up of smaller communities which can be managed as individual units. Some areas will be considered as greater risks than other areas so it doesn't take a genius to workout that the government will have established the risk and prioritised those areas.

Why do you think they have been conducting lock down maneuvers/exercises in different areas and operations like the one following Katrina? They have also been practicing crowd control using combined military and police forces in cities and at major sporting events.
And obviously all those guns are right back on the street and New Orleans still has gun murders almost everyday

Do you think they would be giving you people more of a heads up than they need to? Of course things have returned to normal in New Orleans carry on nothing to see here. ;)
America is huge, no way they could get all the guns.

They don't need to get all the guns in and they will start small and then increase their activities. If they impose martial law and cut communications people will be unaware of what's happening over the county or state line.
I would honestly not even worry about it.

Good luck with that.

Frog, I really understand what you are saying so it's hard to debate that tptb will take it slow.

All im saying is that America is huge and they will have a hard time digging up all the guns on the red neck farm's.

Also good luck getting all the guns out of the abandon homes all over the ghetto's

I really can't argue with you b/c only time will tell how it will play out.

America is not the UK, so TPTB would have to bring in troops from China or the 3rd world.

That would be crazy but im not worried about it at all.

The underclass of America will put up a serious fight if the SHTF.

Right now many people are distracted with addictions.

But they will wake up fast if the SHTF.
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 01:10 #142

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But they will wake up fast if the SHTF.

I'm praying for this on a universal scale.
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 01:31 #143

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They elite never let the shit hit the fan in the west b/c they want to have generational wealth.

If they let the shtf their kids might not have as great a quality of life and they don't want that.

My parents said the same thing about the 60's War protest, JFK, MLK woodstock ect.

I dont see any signs of real changes coming, certainly not caused by this batman shooting.

The wealthy need to stay rich so they dont have to work hard and can have the poor do all the labor.

They dont want the system to crash and that's why it never really does.

Only the poor suffer during recession & depression the wealthy could care less about the working man problems.

That's why America is only bad in the ghettos, everyone else just keeps on working to get by.

Basically that's the great conspiracy in summary.

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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 01:41 #144

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I might be reading you wrong here, mushy....

Are you saying it is not possible to mindfuck someone into violent craziness in a short period of time? Or, are you saying that military intelligence would never do such a thing? Or both?

Or are you just being unreasonable for the sake of argument, because I get the feeling that even you don't believe what you are saying, I mean come on now, stop being all coy and naive.

By the way, stage hypnosis is not a trick like sawing someone in half. Some people are susceptible to hypnosis.

Can you just get real and stop playing games?

i dont believe anyone can be mind controlled and i dont think this guy was in any way a setup .
clear enough i hope .

again i ask what would the motive be ?
power , gun restrictions scanners ?
is that it , does this attack ensure these things happen and what is the end game if they are put in place ?
an elite group of shadowy people to whom we are enslaved ?
thats very unlikely even the conspiracy community is divided on whos trying to enslave us ,
and who is the good guys ,
its a mess of confusing infactual crap mixed with facts from outside the ct community and 19cold war rubbish

if the ct community is saying these people were killed and injured by their goverment to introduce gun control and tsa scanners then thats in pretty poor taste and if the conspiracy communities think its ok to suggest such insulting unfounded nonsense
then shame on it for ignoring facts and bypassing any hope of a social revolution in favour of some sort of stupid adult child role playing game called conspiracy theories .

:chuckle: Right, the facts. The facts are, this guy went to a crowded movie theatre, fully armed, and wearing body armour. He walked into the theatre, sat down, answered his cell phone, went out through an emergency exit, returned the same way, threw two tear gas canisters and opened fire. Then he was arrested outside. The cops found his apartment to be "booby trapped", then they blew it up yesterday. This isn't a lone nut, someone knew to call him on his cell phone before the shooting began. So right away there's at least one other person involved. He also knew he wouldn't be killed, and would be going to jail, judging by his comment on an online dating service. That's one organized lone nut, wouldn't you say?

No one is disputing that it's horrible to have people die like that. Just questioning why he did it, and the "he was nuts" theory is not a good enough answer here. I remember on CNN after the Oklahoma City bombings, they were looking for "3 middle eastern types fleeing in a pick up truck" Timothy McVeigh did not look Middle eastern. That was another act of terror that was very well organized and carried out by a group of people. A group of US military people. Was McVeigh crazy, or just carrying out orders? It's hard to say at this point. But he was very well organized and was part of a group.

Yes of course this will be used to tighten security everywhere. The article I posted highlighted many instances where it is already taking place. Guns make too much money, and the NRA is too powerful of a lobby group to mess with. installing scanners and CCTV cameras everywhere, and employing extra security to check all bags of people in public places is exactly why they would set something like this up. It's hard to just get people to fall in line and accept a police state, they need to be shocked with a really good reason. Here is a really good reason. An armed gunman just might shoot you. If police were on site, and scanners in place, he never would have gotten by, right? ;)
witness said "he seemed to answer his cell phone or make a call"
in the gloom of a theatre raising your hand to side of your head could look like taking a call
or like i said maybe he used that as an excuse to step away from people and move to fire exits
which unlock from inside guns could be hidden under clothes or outside were he retrieved them
the idea that this was staged lacks a motive or incentive and looks badly planned otherwise apartment would be clean or filled with evidence to incriminate the guy and take pressure off the group suposdley behind it .

reality is often stranger than fiction he is still alive surely he will spill the beans now he has nothing lose and is looking at life in jail if he isnt attacked by inmates (who will no doubt be covert agents sent to assasinate him or some crap )
in either case only the conspiracy and the idea of not knowing or accepting the truth will suffice for some ,
im not going to change that .
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 01:55 #145

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The David Icke forum is becoming pure Fantasy.

There are people over there who think this batman shooting is all staged, nobody was really shot, it was all actors.

48 hours last night had interview after interview of people in the hospital in Colorado full of bullet wounds.

Mk Ultra or Not the conspiracy world is going way out of control over this. :umm:

This is not 9/11 people, Chicago and Philly have more murders then this almost every single weekend.

And that does not mean it's not sad & horrible, i'm far from desensitized.

America has 30,000 gun murders a year so why would the Dark Knight movie shooting change anything? :conf:

TPTB know damn well they can't get the guns from all the rednecks who will just bury them on the farm.

TPTB also know damn well that the guns doing murders in the cities are hidden in the abandon homes in the hood.

This country is huge so who is going to confiscate all the guns and how will they do it? :ownd:

I smell paranoia... :think:

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yep fantasy is somehow acceptable when facts arent , thetes a phrase that i keep hearing regarding this and its "suspension of reality "

for gun laws to change people need to change
its the cycle of dependency (need the gun to protect against the gun )
like you say there must be absolutely shed loads of guns hidden in america restricting legal guns as a result of the people saying we dont want this culture anymore could create a fork or split in society with non gun types having to live amongst pro gun types now (in a non armed america ) engaged in an almost civil war type scenareo with police ,
now were is that hinted at hmm ?,
survivalists and patriots along with neo nazis and gangs all benifit from guns nobody else in normal day to day life does except those in the cycle of dependencey and everyone else who doesnt own a gun or only has a sporting weapon is left out of the equation .

its really simple get rid of the guns eliminate the culture of the gun by eliminating any need to have one .
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 02:11 #146

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wish when describing the event people wouldnt cherry pick facts ,
one thing is clearly seen in gloomy theatre while other things arent ,
how the hell can that be debated with any degree of certainty
nobody saw the guys face he was wearing a mask but they saw him take a call no they didnt they thought he had a mobile because he raised his hand aa if he had one
there was a picture on tge dif someone posted of a womwn in the 20s on a busy street in daylight in focus etc and it said it was proof of a time travellere because clearly she was talking on her mobile in the pic ,
no she was fixing her hair ,
but no the more improbable time traveling theory crushed that idea and there followed a shit load of scientific data to peove time travel possible and therefore rubbishing any claims she had an itch .

please if your going to suply claims check and re check and check again ,
if it sounds like its possible then fair enough
but dont jump to conclusions the truth is strange enough these days .
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 02:50 #147

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for gun laws to change people need to change
its the cycle of dependency (need the gun to protect against the gun )
like you say there must be absolutely shed loads of guns hidden in america restricting legal guns as a result of the people saying we dont want this culture anymore could create a fork or split in society with non gun types having to live amongst pro gun types now (in a non armed america ) engaged in an almost civil war type scenareo with police ,
now were is that hinted at hmm ?,

its really simple get rid of the guns eliminate the culture of the gun by eliminating any need to have one .

And the big question is who is really trying to stop the big money going into the fire arms industry?

Nobody in politics ever has the heart to try to shut down the military industrial complex.

It's been 50 years since someone major spoke about the biggest issue in the world today.

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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 03:49 #148

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If people want to believe the guy was a lone nut so be it.. People do go nuts, but they usually get their own asses killed in the process. This guy was wearing a gas mask, body armour, and was armed with tear gas and pretty serious weapons. He didn't "just crack" he was organized. His place was apparently wired with something explosive, according to the police, because they blew his place up. BTW, that also destroyed evidence. Witnesses said he threw two canisters, then systematically opened fire, on everyone in sight. He somehow knew he was going to be jailed ahead of time. Why didn't he go out in a blaze of glory? Again in this day and age, the whole doing it to be famous thing is ridiculous. He'll be "famous" until next week, when the Olympics starts..... or something else like this happens.

Time will tell how this plays out. We were first told that Dylan Kleibold and Eric Harris were bullied, and they cracked. Turns out they were bullying and terrorizing people at school, and were part of a little militia group. Timothy McVeigh was military. He blew up a daycare. Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly acted alone....... etc. Recent history shows us that the "lone nuts" that are highly organized like this young man was, are not lone nuts, but part of something else.

Bottom line, this was a terrorist act, by definition. They have already begun implementing changes as far as security goes, in airports, sporting events, all since 9 - 11, but this kind of thing calls for even stricter measures. School shootings brought about metal detectors and guards at schools. My son's elementary school goes into lockdown if a student screams at the principal.... There you have it, security tightened at schools. 9 - 11 brought about major changes at airports, and there you have it, tighter security including full body scans at airports. They've tightened security at sporting events and concerts...... Now, we have an issue at a movie theatre, and we now have already seen a few changes made since this shooting occurred, as reported in the massive MSM coverage.

Why do these things only seem to happen in the US? You can get guns anywhere if you want them. Anywhere in the world. The reason this happens in the US is because of the fact that many people in the US are armed, by constitutional right. One of the provisions of that right is to protect yourself against a hostile domestic government..... They want tight, armed security everywhere. They want to quell any uprisings quickly. They want to scare the populace into submission. Acts like this just hasten the march toward a totalitarian police state.

That's why this thing happened.
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 04:27 #149

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mushy wrote:
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mushy wrote:
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I might be reading you wrong here, mushy....

Are you saying it is not possible to mindfuck someone into violent craziness in a short period of time? Or, are you saying that military intelligence would never do such a thing? Or both?

Or are you just being unreasonable for the sake of argument, because I get the feeling that even you don't believe what you are saying, I mean come on now, stop being all coy and naive.

By the way, stage hypnosis is not a trick like sawing someone in half. Some people are susceptible to hypnosis.

Can you just get real and stop playing games?

i dont believe anyone can be mind controlled and i dont think this guy was in any way a setup .
clear enough i hope .

again i ask what would the motive be ?
power , gun restrictions scanners ?
is that it , does this attack ensure these things happen and what is the end game if they are put in place ?
an elite group of shadowy people to whom we are enslaved ?
thats very unlikely even the conspiracy community is divided on whos trying to enslave us ,
and who is the good guys ,
its a mess of confusing infactual crap mixed with facts from outside the ct community and 19cold war rubbish

if the ct community is saying these people were killed and injured by their goverment to introduce gun control and tsa scanners then thats in pretty poor taste and if the conspiracy communities think its ok to suggest such insulting unfounded nonsense
then shame on it for ignoring facts and bypassing any hope of a social revolution in favour of some sort of stupid adult child role playing game called conspiracy theories .

:chuckle: Right, the facts. The facts are, this guy went to a crowded movie theatre, fully armed, and wearing body armour. He walked into the theatre, sat down, answered his cell phone, went out through an emergency exit, returned the same way, threw two tear gas canisters and opened fire. Then he was arrested outside. The cops found his apartment to be "booby trapped", then they blew it up yesterday. This isn't a lone nut, someone knew to call him on his cell phone before the shooting began. So right away there's at least one other person involved. He also knew he wouldn't be killed, and would be going to jail, judging by his comment on an online dating service. That's one organized lone nut, wouldn't you say?

No one is disputing that it's horrible to have people die like that. Just questioning why he did it, and the "he was nuts" theory is not a good enough answer here. I remember on CNN after the Oklahoma City bombings, they were looking for "3 middle eastern types fleeing in a pick up truck" Timothy McVeigh did not look Middle eastern. That was another act of terror that was very well organized and carried out by a group of people. A group of US military people. Was McVeigh crazy, or just carrying out orders? It's hard to say at this point. But he was very well organized and was part of a group.

Yes of course this will be used to tighten security everywhere. The article I posted highlighted many instances where it is already taking place. Guns make too much money, and the NRA is too powerful of a lobby group to mess with. installing scanners and CCTV cameras everywhere, and employing extra security to check all bags of people in public places is exactly why they would set something like this up. It's hard to just get people to fall in line and accept a police state, they need to be shocked with a really good reason. Here is a really good reason. An armed gunman just might shoot you. If police were on site, and scanners in place, he never would have gotten by, right? ;)

witness said "he seemed to answer his cell phone or make a call"
in the gloom of a theatre raising your hand to side of your head could look like taking a call
or like i said maybe he used that as an excuse to step away from people and move to fire exits
which unlock from inside guns could be hidden under clothes or outside were he retrieved them
the idea that this was staged lacks a motive or incentive and looks badly planned otherwise apartment would be clean or filled with evidence to incriminate the guy and take pressure off the group suposdley behind it .

reality is often stranger than fiction he is still alive surely he will spill the beans now he has nothing lose and is looking at life in jail if he isnt attacked by inmates (who will no doubt be covert agents sent to assasinate him or some crap )
in either case only the conspiracy and the idea of not knowing or accepting the truth will suffice for some ,
im not going to change that .

First of all, theatres have their lights on until the previews start...... right?
Secondly, all you know is that something happened where a gunman shot up a movie theatre, and we have some particulars. You don't know what his motive or mindset was/is. Right? End of.
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 09:29 #150

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noseymutegirl wrote:
Coincidentally, on May 17, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security issued a warning about possible terrorist attacks in American theaters. This was reported by Huffington Post.

Last night, Rob Dew was guest on Coast to Coast. At the 1:20 mark you can hear him talk about how 100 Federal agents were on the scene very quickly.



I am not sure if this is relevant or not, but I know that sometimes police departments and FBI are at odds with each other because the police feel that the FBI takes over their jurisdiction and steers the investigations in other directions. It is not always the case; it depends on the police department and on the crime itself.


In regards to the phone call, here are two witnesses who describe what they saw including a man taking a phone call then walking to the back exit and propping the door open.




Another eye witness report from inside the cinema, who saw someone move to the emergency exit prior to the gunman entering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hhev_9vmh7I
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Re: shooting in colorado 23 Jul 2012 13:28 #151

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First of all, theatres have their lights on until the previews start...... right?
Secondly, all you know is that something happened where a gunman shot up a movie theatre, and we have some particulars. You don't know what his motive or mindset was/is. Right? End of.

They said the guy bought a ticket and originally went in the main entrance to the theater so he could stick something in the door to keep it open. He went to his car and got the guns then came back thru the door he propped open when the previews started and it was dark. Plus people were all dressed up in batman costumes since it was opening night.
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RealAmerican wrote:
ronisron wrote:

First of all, theatres have their lights on until the previews start...... right?
Secondly, all you know is that something happened where a gunman shot up a movie theatre, and we have some particulars. You don't know what his motive or mindset was/is. Right? End of.

They said the guy bought a ticket and originally went in the main entrance to the theater so he could stick something in the door to keep it open. He went to his car and got the guns then came back thru the door he propped open when the previews started and it was dark. Plus people were all dressed up in batman costumes since it was opening night.

Context, man... The lights were on when he took the cell phone call, or made the cell phone call. He came back in when the house lights went down.
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Horrible situation.

I've not heard much about it (don't watch the news) but I've heard one guy was holding his baby , sitting next to his girlfriend and two year old son and placed the baby on the floor and ran away , leaving his girlfriend and his children behind!

What a wanker
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I wonder how gun designers/manufacturers/retailers sleep at night when their products are used to kill other people including children?

I wonder how much profit they made and is it enough?

The designers/manufacturers/retailers must be walking zombies with no emotions,just a shell of a person running on chemical instincts.

It would be fantastically ironic if they were hung by their own petard!
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I wonder how gun designers/manufacturers/retailers sleep at night when their products are used to kill other people including children?

I wonder how much profit they made and is it enough?

The designers/manufacturers/retailers must be walking zombies with no emotions,just a shell of a person running on chemical instincts.

It would be fantastically ironic if they were hung by their own petard!

Those people are all focused on the type of quality of life that comes along with that big money they make.

The Fire Arm industry aka Military Industrial Complex is super powerful.

Just look at the money going into it every year.

Here are some great examples.

www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57343184...illion-defense-bill/

247wallst.com/2012/06/28/a-perfect-storm...es-record-gun-sales/

www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/30-000...-bomb-now-ready.html

People in the conspiracy world never talk about it because if millions of people realize this and start protesting the military industrial complex TPTB will have no protection anymore. Conspiracy Guru's almost never bring this up because the dark fantasy of the conspiracy world so many are in intrigued by would come to an end just like that.

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RealAmerican wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
I wonder how gun designers/manufacturers/retailers sleep at night when their products are used to kill other people including children?

I wonder how much profit they made and is it enough?

The designers/manufacturers/retailers must be walking zombies with no emotions,just a shell of a person running on chemical instincts.

It would be fantastically ironic if they were hung by their own petard!

Those people are all focused on the type of quality of life that comes along with that big money they make.

The Fire Arm industry aka Military Industrial Complex is super powerful.

Just look at the money going into it every year.

Here are some great examples.

www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57343184...illion-defense-bill/

247wallst.com/2012/06/28/a-perfect-storm...es-record-gun-sales/

www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/30-000...-bomb-now-ready.html

People in the conspiracy world never talk about it because if millions of people realize this and start protesting the military industrial complex TPTB will have no protection anymore. Conspiracy Guru's almost never bring this up because the dark fantasy of the conspiracy world so many are in intrigued by would come to an end just like that.

:scotty:

It sounds like TPTB are on to a nice little earner keeping the citizens of the USA in fear and when they are finished using those citizens TPTB could always get the citizens to wipe each other out with the weapons they sold them if they need to.

Win win for the sludge monster zombies at the top of the pile. :thumbup:

Most if not all conspiracy guru's and conspiracy cliques are a form middle class revolt :rofl: or TPTB mugging people off. :thumbup:
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entran­ger­mer­cen­ary wrote:
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Coco wrote:
, but I ask how he accessed the building from the back to begin with?
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What has been reported through various witnesses is that walked into the theatre with his ticket took an aisle seat and then received a phone call on his cell phone. He then walked out the exit door leading into the parking lot and somehow propped/fixed the door so he could get back in. Other witnesses first saw him as he entered the back exit door... I would like to know more about the phone call that he got.
What a load of fuck­ing shit.….so now every time some­body goes on a mur­der spree its mind con­trol There are some mad fuck­ing peo­ple in this world, some with mur­der­ous inten­tions c’est la vie. Do you say that about all the gang­sters that are killing each other daily eg zetas .

Mind con­trol …fuck off

Excuse me? I did not hear anyone say that "every time somebody goes on a murder spree its mind control".

Looking at it from all angles, mind control is an obvious possibility. In fact, I was thinking mind control and/or demonic possession, as they can work hand in hand.

So, I suppose you can tell me to quadruple fuck off, Eh?

Yes fuck off x4 :killinme: SO mind control :roll: so the tribesman in lets say Sudan who kills a load of other tribesmen for cattle is not mind controlled but a shooter who lives in America who kills a load of people is mind controlled. Where do you draw the line :conf:

Every single time a mass shooting occurs its mind control MK ultra blah blah blah :killinme: Maybe some of you people should take a trip around the planet and see some of the insane cunts who actually inhabit planet earth.
If mind control was so easy Presidents of various countries would be assassinated on a daily/weekly/monthly basis by various foreign governments ;) Unless you believe we are controlled by alien annunaki or what ever the fuck they are called :spank:

First off, I don't think every incident is mind control and I do believe that some people are just crazy assholes(and some people are just assholes). And MK Ultra is old mind control technology, anyway.

You don't even know me or what I think. How dare you tell me to "fuck off" for merely hinting at mind control. I will not "fuck off". I will ask questions- even absurd questions. It's better than asking no questions and writing someone off as "crazy". If you don't like it, then you can fuck off. And I don't need to travel the planet to meet "crazy" people; I meet them all the time right where I am.

And, btw, if the "tribesman" was studying neuroscience, could elaborately rig up explosives that baffle the FBI and was obsessing over Hollywood productions loaded with neuro linguistic programming- then, yes, I might consider he was involved in some sort of mind control.

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James Holmes, Colorado shooting suspect makes first court appearance

Suspected Colorado shooter James Holmes had a date with a judge Monday morning, giving the public a first look at the the man suspected of killing 12 people and shooting 70 others at a midnight showing of the Dark Knight Rises premiere last week.

Holmes was wearing a red jumpsuit with his hair dyed orange-red and was seated next to his public defender. He appeared sedated, making bizarre movements with his eyes and forehead throughout the duration of the 15 minute hearing.

The judge said there will "clearly" be no bail for someone accused of such a serious crime.

He ordered charges to be formally filed on Monday July 30.

In a post-hearing press conference, Carol Chambers, Arapahoe County District Attorney, said she had "no information" on Holmes's confusing demeanor inside the courtroom.

She did say that the decision about whether or not to press for the death penalty will be made in consultation with the victims' families and may not be made for months.

Earlier in the day, authorities indicated that Holmes was refusing to cooperate and that it could take months to learn what prompted the horrific attack.

While he's not talking, details about his life emerged over the weekend.

Raised in San Diego, Holmes played on his high school soccer team and went on to become an honour student at the University of California Riverside, where in 2010 he got a degree in neuroscience.

Last year, he began a doctoral program in neuroscience at the University of Colorado Denver, but he was in the process of withdrawing from the program.

In the summer of 2008, Holmes worked as a counsellor at Camp Max Straus, which offers activities such as horse riding for underprivileged children.

According to Fox News, Holmes attempted to join a private gun range, the $250 Lead Valley Range, in Byers, Colorado.

Glenn Rotkovich, the owner, called to invite him for an orientation and got through to a "bizarre" voicemail message. "Looking back, and if I'd seen the movies, maybe I'd say it was like the Joker," Rotkovich said.

According to TMZ.com, Holmes also a had profile on dating website Match.com with a tagline: "Will you visit me in prison"

Holmes' profile included:

-- Favorite movies: "Too many good movies to have a favorite, maybe Dumb and Dumber, Hachiko, Star Wars, etc."
-- Favorite book: Where's Waldo?
-- "You should message me if you're interested, obviously. Or lookin' for sexy times. Very nice!"
-- Political views: Middle of the road
-- Faith: Agnostic
-- "I spend a lot of time thinking about the future. Mind = blown

Absolutely nothing to indicate any serious problems from his background, the only thing this article mentions is what we already know in regards to him asking if potential suitors would visit him in jail, and he had a bizarre voice mail message.

Another article did mention that he bought all of his weaponry and armaments online.
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I heard today that when filling out the form to aquire a gun in the states, there's a 'do you have any history of mental health issues?' question.... apparently there are NO checks when the box is ticked no.

Is it really that easy?
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good question psketti

A question for the forum members in the USA ....do you own a gun?
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