Anthony65 wrote:

Anthony65 wrote:
Seems to me some of you just want to pick and choose something because its spectacular in the news So as IVE said every single time its...MK ultra..or gun control either in the UK/USA What about the rest of the planet, Sudan, Mexico, S America, Africa where multiple killings take place but don't make the news

Insane fucking fruit loop I would say and so much for concealed weapons in the US but I'm sure some of our yank posters will say if its a state that you can carry concealed weapons in ?

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entran­ger­mer­cen­ary wrote:
You can disagree with someone without saying that their opinion is a load of fucking shit right?

So do so. Remember the T & C's you agreed to when signing up.

www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7415668n...%C2%A0Video%3A+US%29

NO matter what happened, people , batman fans, just want to see the movie, they say the show will go on
this was just an "isolated event". Few care. After all, "it wasn't them."

What is the legion of SUPERHEROES about anyway, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Spiderman, Aquaman,
wondergirl etc.? In short, if the government doesn't take care about its citizens, they will protect you....
They are our invisible friends, we pay to see.
It is good fiction of Good vs evil, too bad people like the shooter ,consider this reality,
and kill innocent people who have nothing to do with their mental problems.

The kneejerk response would typically be :-
"Let's ignore the constitutions and disarm the American people and/or install x-ray machines in the entrance of the cinemas like they have in the airports."


Edit : "Also an armed Marshall should be in attendance at ALL screening at cinemas, and eventually ALL other public events from football matches, to shopping, buses, trains, schools, hospitals...."

Steevo wrote:
Disarming the American people was always on the cards prior to any full scale imposition of a police state.

It's more than ironic when the American government was caught red handed shipping automatic weapons to Mexican drug gangs.

Anthony65 wrote:
So the American people are going to be disarmed..what time scale on this ?

This year, next year, next 10 yrs seems you seem to know so tell us

I wonder if there are any particular messages in this latest Batman movie ? I know that it's about Bane who I think has been genetically modified to be an ultimate warrior. The last 3 batman movies directed by Cristopher Nolan have had some good messages in them, and I just wondered if this shooting is gonna be "ironic" in any way.

Huh ? Hey this isnt the DIF yer know! :p

ca.news.yahoo.com/video/raw-video-bomb-s...nates-183116777.html

They detonated the shooter's apartment. This is too perfect. It's straight out of Hollywood -- art imitating life, imitating art, imitating life.... The guy walks into a theatre, fully armed, body armour, gas mask. Gets a cell phone call, leaves via the emergency exit, comes back in the same way, throws two tear gas canisters, and starts shooting. The police find his apartment... no, lair, and it's booby trapped with wires leading to bottles of suspicious liquid. They have to evacuate people in the nearby area, and now, needless to say, pertinent evidence linking Holmes to....?? is destroyed.

Who benefits from this? Holmes? His 1-2 weeks of media notoriety is nothing, he just gets added to a very long list of people who walk into public places and open fire for no apparent reason. So a "desire to be famous" seems kind of dumb. "He just cracked" but appears to have been very well organized, and seems to have had at least one accomplice, the cell phone caller. Why would you bring a cell phone to a gig like this unless you were told you would be contacted at a certain time? The only people who would benefit are those who are hoping to use things like this to tighten the security noose to the breaking point, or to spread fear using instances like a movie theatre as a reminder to all that no place is safe. These guys usually shoot up schools and churches too, don't they?

This media story stinks really bad. This was an "operation" of some kind, not a random event.

I've temp deleted some posts in this thread to keep it on topic.

you know sometimes shit just happens. you have these limp dicks sniffing their mums underwear unable to make friends or fuck a girl, and they think they are jesus or whatever and the world needs to be punised. so they murder a bunch of people, they are famous and people think they are some kind of monsters. fears=power
you cant control everyone or protect everybody. sometimes its just the wrong time and wrong place. if it wasnt you it would be someone else shot.
all these mouths on tv, talk about how guns are to blame, and its a culture of violence. blahblahblah

i just saw a news report a guy said he saw someone else let in the shooter through an exit door.

Yesterday, I heard and read a few reports on the radio and internet, about a cell phone call. Last night, Dateline did a reenactment based on witness testimony that included Holmes taking a phone call before he left the theatre to go into the parking lot, but today the above report is the only thing I can find and the Dateline show from last night is not on their website yet, they do have a video of the reenactment but the first few minutes are cut out.. So, it is not certain whether it was Holmes, or not, who took the phone call.

@EM, let's say we are at a pub talking, okay? I would say to you that, even though you have your own area of expertise and experiences that most of us have not, don't let that cloud your judgement into thinking that you know everything about everything, because you don't. I can see how proud you are of what you have seen and been through, but I wish that you would not let your pride make you become close-minded. Believe me when I say that there are people in this world who have seen things that you haven't, just as it is the other way around. Outlandish as that may seem to you. Now run along and have a good wank. <<< pub talk.

It could be just a random nut on a shooting spree. It could be something more sinister.
Either way, it's bad More innocent people snuffed out These fuckers never go on a crime fighting vigilante spree, they always choose soft targets.

irrepressible wrote:
Yeah these dumb serial killers always turn on people in their own communities

As far as mind control,well you could say we are all mind controlled to a certain degree,buy this buy that and aspire to live a certain way so no one escape mind fucks.
For example following fashion is mind control.

noseymutegirl wrote:
Ahh someobody on a mobile...oO well the fantastic CIA or GCHQ who can organise invasions and kill people for fun will have that locked down then.
Well im sure you can give us a few examples of some of the situations you have experienced maybe some psychic attacks or something along them lines.
As for being in a pub I dont think so, people swear in pubs
Now would you indoctrinate some little cunt who has barely started wanking or would you indoctrinate somebody from the military who according to most on the forum is all ready a psychotic killer and indoctrinated ??
I will go for my wank now but send me a picture via pm Im horny as fuck

This is completely true, of course. The term 'mind control' suggests something pretty all-encompassing and drastic, but in fact every single human-being can be conditioned quite easily and thoroughly. We know this 100%, there's absolutely no doubt about it whatsoever. The extent to which this is possible, and what can be achieved by doing it, this is less clear. But, again, we do know 100% that such things were attempted during MKULTRA, because 20,000 documents were recovered. We would know a lot more were it not for the fact that the Director of the CIA at the time, Richard Helms, had ordered for documents related to the programme to be destroyed.

It seems far more likely to me that in this case some fairly nondescript person has simply gone on a shooting spree. But I certainly don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility for someone to be conditioned to behave in a way that would be abhorrent to them in a different context. All you have to do is look around the world, and you'll see it happening on a massive scale every single day.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Im glad you used the words " attempted " wub because people attempt many things

But now would you use some urchin or somebody who is already indoctrinated and a psycho according to you ie one of the hundreds of thousands in the US military ?

I wonder what evidence they have of his bomb and booby traps education, and where the money came from to buy his expensive arsenal. He was on unemployment and in the process of dropping out of neurological studies. Apparently he had honours in his field of study and had also volunteered for something....can't remember at the moment.

It's interesting how easily he gave himself up and even told the police about his apartment. He must have had a change of mind. Chief Oates seems like a genuinely nice guy, not like some other police chiefs.


Do you know anything about the military base at For Bragg, NC? They have a history of out-of-the-blue mass killings going back to the 1970's. I can't give you the link because there isn't one. Search "Fort Bragg murders" and pick a year, I am certain you will pick up something.


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