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Yet Another Shooting 13 Aug 2012 19:26 #1

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www.cnn.com/2012/08/13/justice/texas-am-shooting/index.html
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Not much info on this yet but...come on! I mean, seriously! What gives? :(
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 13 Aug 2012 19:40 #2

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I can only find sketchy reports like the one you've posted, K-Bone. One says 2 cops were among the 'multiple victims'. There's no mention of fatalities. Just the typical 'lone gunman' that we've all come to know.

Do you know what the time difference is over there? There's comment that the incident took place at noon, so unless I've got my times mixed up, there seems to have been sufficient time for them to come up with some basic details.

*Edit* Or maybe not. It's only 1.41pm
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 13 Aug 2012 19:46 #3

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It's almost 3 here, so I would expect there to be some more news...well, I guess it was in Texas. I just happen to see the alert when I clicked on a link on another thread.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 00:34 #4

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It was outside Texas A&M University....
SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - A gunman killed two people including a law enforcement officer on Monday after opening fire from inside a house near Texas A&M University in College Station, police said.

Four other people were injured in the incident, and police later shot and killed the gunman, they said.

The dead officer was identified as Brazos County Constable Brian Bachmann, said Scott McCollum, assistant chief of the police department at College Station.

McCollum said Bachmann was shot in front of the house, about two blocks from the university. He was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.

McCollum did not identify the other victim, a male bystander. The gunman has not been identified.

A woman was shot and undergoing surgery, and a College Station police officer was in stable condition after being shot in the leg, McCollum said.

Two other officers were injured, he said. Their injuries were not life-threatening, according to the City of College Station.

"We had officers respond to a 'shots fired' call," McCollum said at a press conference. "Once the officers arrived, they began to trade fire. The officers defended themselves and called in additional officers."

College Station police officers shot and killed the gunman, said Jason James, a sergeant with the police department in Bryan, Texas.

Police said they do not know what sparked the violence but were confident only one shooter was involved.

The university issued a "code maroon" shortly after noon, warning students and employees that an "active shooter" was in the area west of campus and asking them to stay away.

"Our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and the families," said Lane Stephenson, director of news information services at Texas A&M University. He said the university was unaware if any of the victims were students.

The shooting comes amid national jitters over gun violence after a man opened fire in a crowded Colorado movie theater last month during a midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises," killing 12 people and wounded 58 others.

On August 5 a gunman opened fire at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, killing six people before turning his gun on himself
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This is just too much of this, this is out of control. Random, crazy people my ass. This happens too much in the US, and it tends to involve military. It's not a symptom of the gun culture, it is NOT human nature to just decide to shoot up a church, or a school, or a movie theatre, or a post office....... The stats are staggering, and the fact that these events happen in clusters is even more against the odds. Once again..... random??? Come on.... :roll:

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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 00:55 #5

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Aren't intelligence agencies great?

I think the word Intelligence is used in the loosest possible sense, maybe for the purpose of irony. Someone in government must have had a sense of humor when they came up with the term intelligence agency.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 02:11 #6

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Why is this news?

30,000 people a year die by the gun in the US.

Thousands of black kids are getting shot and killed in the American ghetto's.

If I turn on the local news tonight there will be story after story of black kids shooting each other.

Why is 3 people getting killed in shootings near Texas A&M University news on this forum?

Seriously WTF? :conf:
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 08:41 #7

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From the reports I've seen, there doesn't seem to be anything weird involved here - just a human tragedy by the look of it. It seems the officers were serving (or had previously served, depending on which report you read) an eviction notice to the shooter.

I tried to post one, but, like others, I've been having trouble with my laptop freezing up again.

RealAmerican - If you want to do a thread on "Black kids getting shot in American ghetto's", then go for it. That's not what these threads are about and I think you know that - or at least you would if you read them through, so quit trolling.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 09:24 #8

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shoot the shooters then shoot the gunshop owner, then the Firearms dealer then shoot the firearms manufacturers then shoot the Generals then shoot the politicians who endorse selling Firearms then shoot the Whole Fucking Carlyle Group
And then there obsideries .........Man what a Bloodbath
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 10:05 #9

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Is there anything particularly unusual about this shooting? These kinds of shootings are common in America, as far as I can see.

The Batman premiere shooting was certainly shocking enough to attract major media attention, but I'm struggling to see how this one is in the same league. :conf:
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 12:23 #10

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shoot the shooters then shoot the gunshop owner, then the Firearms dealer then shoot the firearms manufacturers then shoot the Generals then shoot the politicians who endorse selling Firearms then shoot the Whole Fucking Carlyle Group
And then there obsideries .........Man what a Bloodbath

Nah,just don't make the guns in the first place and educate people instead.

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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 12:27 #11

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Gee, sorry I posted this here. It was breaking news when I first saw it and, as you can see from my original post, there wasn't much info on it when the news first broke. Next time, I will wait and see if it is worthy of posting...sheesh... :roll:
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 12:29 #12

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Gee, sorry I posted this here. It was breaking news when I first saw it and, as you can see from my original post, there wasn't much info on it when the news first broke. Next time, I will wait and see if it is worthy of posting...sheesh... :roll:

Fair enough, mate. :cool:

If it's any consolation, I've started plenty of threads that I later wished I hadn't. :chuckle:
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 12:34 #13

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The military industrial complex runs America and Americans who buy guns are their bitches :rofl: .Guns don't empower you,legal rights empower you and freedoms that are beneficial to individuals and society as a whole.

That would be all well and good if the police state turned over their guns as well. The police force in America seems to be becoming more and more militarised. It would seem the only thing getting in the way of the police state holding the American people under seige is the right to bear arms.
I don't know enough about the issue and all the politics tbh, I tend to stay clear of all that :D I'm just telling it how I see it, from my limited knowledge.
Don't Canadians have the right to bear arms as well? Do most Canadians own guns? If that's true, why aren't there loads of shootings in Canada? Unless there are :D It seems to be an American phenomenon. I saw a doc years ago and it said Canadians own guns.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 12:39 #14

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humanspirit wrote:
The military industrial complex runs America and Americans who buy guns are their bitches :rofl: .Guns don't empower you,legal rights empower you and freedoms that are beneficial to individuals and society as a whole.

That would be all well and good if the police state turned over their guns as well. The police force in America seems to be becoming more and more militarised. It would seem the only thing getting in the way of the police state holding the American people under seige is the right to bear arms.
I don't know enough about the issue and all the politics tbh, I tend to stay clear of all that :D I'm just telling it how I see it, from my limited knowledge.
Don't Canadians have the right to bear arms as well? Do most Canadians own guns? If that's true, why aren't there loads of shootings in Canada? Unless there are :D It seems to be an American phenomenon. I saw a doc years ago and it said Canadians own guns.

I'm not sure about Canada but I thought they weren't allowed guns. I did hear recently that Switzerland is big on guns, even requiring that every household has one. They have very little crime.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 13:08 #15

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You've nothing to apologise for K-Bone - at first sight it looked like it may be suspicious, given all the ongoing furore over the right to bear arms and the recent spate of shootings with in off-kilter circumstances.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 13:09 #16

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Thanks K-Bone :)

Interesting about Switzerland.

Also this;

Despite the lack of rigid gun laws, firearms are strictly connected to a sense of collective responsibility.

From an early age Swiss men and women associate weaponry with being called to defend their country.


I would think the majority of gun owning Americans would share the same ethos.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 13:10 #17

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irrepressible wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
The military industrial complex runs America and Americans who buy guns are their bitches :rofl: .Guns don't empower you,legal rights empower you and freedoms that are beneficial to individuals and society as a whole.

That would be all well and good if the police state turned over their guns as well. The police force in America seems to be becoming more and more militarised. It would seem the only thing getting in the way of the police state holding the American people under seige is the right to bear arms.

Indeed. I'm really not down with the state having the monopoly on legally owned weapons at all. The police force in the UK is becoming increasingly tooled up as well, while systematically disarming the citizens. I think the only firearms we can legally own now are shotguns - and they're even trying to get rid of those after that bloke went on a shooting rampage with shotguns in Cumbria a couple of years ago. Meanwhile, criminals seem to have no difficulty obtaining guns...

I've never been a "gun nut" as such, but I find such an imbalance between the state and the people disturbing. Governments should fear their people, it shouldn't be the other way round.
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 13:16 #18

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irrepressible wrote:
Thanks K-Bone :)

Interesting about Switzerland.

Also this;

Despite the lack of rigid gun laws, firearms are strictly connected to a sense of collective responsibility.

From an early age Swiss men and women associate weaponry with being called to defend their country.


I would think the majority of gun owning Americans would share the same ethos.

Yeah, most gun owners in America have them for protection or hunting. Also, the reason we have the right to bear arms is also about the people being able to defend themselves against a tyrannical government...this is why they are so Hell bent on taking them away from us!

The news stories about people defending themselves with guns, never seem to make the news and yet it happens...
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Re: Yet Another Shooting 14 Aug 2012 13:50 #19

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dreamweaver wrote:

Governments should fear their people, it shouldn't be the other way round.

Exactly.

The reality however, is becoming more and more alarming.
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The most desperate thing is who gets control of the food supply chain,and if internal chaos happens the defenders of this food source is the military,which would in all actuality give them more power than any so called person or group in political power.

This has happened in third world countries and overturned dictatorships,a military general ended up being the leader of the country,and any real individually armed citizenship of that country wasn't a determining factor, but the control of the food source was the more important factor, and then it was a organized military that backed the new ruler and placed him or her in power.
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