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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 14:51 #41

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well im a liar, i didnt get to see it yesterday. but the threads about monsanto did answer a lot of stuff.

food inc is 1 movie, but whats the other one?

i dont want to dedicate 16 hours to watching movies about it.. which is best to see?
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 15:58 #42

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i dont want to dedicate 16 hours to watching movies about it.. which is best to see?
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 16:09 #43

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Of course it's not inevitable, nothing is inevitable
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So really why they dug up a year old story to relate to a nothing story about Hungary and the IMF negotiating terms over Hungary's inevitable bailout package
This is the end of our discussion, my friend, I've given you more of my time than you deserved. You're yet another complete shyster on the Internet. What a surprise.
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 16:42 #44

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"Complete shyster" :D, perhaps your criticisms would be better directed at the people glorifying the Right Wing Government of Hungary as some romantic opponent to globalization?

I took time today to find out whether people are using this as a political platform for Right Wing views yet:
hchc (2293) from Tampa, FL 17 hours ago

That is what REAL leadership looks like

[-] 2 points by Forrester (54) 15 hours ago

Too bad we don't have that kind of leadership here.
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[-] 2 points by hchc (2293) from Tampa, FL 15 hours ago

There arent enough people demanding leadership yet. Everyone is still willing to accept lesser of two thinking, which is the worst way at looking at things.
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[-] 2 points by Forrester (54) 15 hours ago

That's what we're here for I guess
source

Even though it's Hungary that wants a bailout from the IMF, and obvious with the slightest modicum of research, that despite Monsanto breaking the Law in Hungary last year, they still operate in the country.

www.realdeal.hu/20120907/orban-says-hung...dit-deal-with-imfeu/
www.realdeal.hu/20120907/reported-condit...-source-in-brussels/
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 17:09 #45

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Is the Hungarian government misogynistic too?
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 17:21 #46

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Is the Hungarian government misogynistic too?
Is the word petal now a misogynistic slur?

Tbh I didn't even know or care what sex Gilly is.
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 17:50 #47

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Guevarista wrote:
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Is the Hungarian government misogynistic too?
Is the word petal now a misogynistic slur?

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Ah, I see.... you were using it in a post-modern ironic way to indicate your recognition of Gilly as an equal. :roll:
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 18:11 #48

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oioioi wrote:
Guevarista wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Is the Hungarian government misogynistic too?
Is the word petal now a misogynistic slur?

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Ah, I see.... you were using it in a post-modern ironic way to indicate your recognition of Gilly as an equal. :roll:
I was just being condescending. :yinyan:
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 19:26 #49

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Guevarista wrote:
"Complete shyster" :D, perhaps your criticisms would be better directed at the people glorifying the Right Wing Government of Hungary as some romantic opponent to globalization?
Yes, complete shyster. Firstly, you're not 'left-wing'. 'Guevarista' and your avatar is a just a badge you wear, it means nothing. You copy and pasted pro-GMO material straight from the Monsanto website here:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/56405-Monsanto.html#56520

And here:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/56405-Monsanto.html#56521

Hardly something I'd expect to see from a self-proclaimed 'left-wing' radical.

Secondly...page one of this thread:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/56189-Hu...d-The-IMF.html#56262
Guevarista wrote:
...IMF negotiating terms over Hungary's inevitable bailout package

Page two of this thread...

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/56189-Hu...it=20&start=20#56331
Guevarista wrote:
Of course it's not inevitable, nothing is inevitable.
Some might say that someone unable to maintain a consistent position for one page is in no position to condescend anyone.

I couldn't care less whether the Hungarian government is left-wing, right-wing, or whatever, that is an internal issue for the people of Hungary to deal with. I do care about the spread of Monsanto, and the worldwide adoption of GMO as a standard foodstuff, and particularly any opposition to the diabolical Monsanto Corporation, and will applaud anyone that opposes it. If you don't oppose this, then you're hardly qualified to describe yourself as 'left-wing'.

Just to make it 100% clear that this is happening. Again:

www.businessinsider.com/hungary-is-in-tr...o-and-the-imf-2012-9
Hungary Is In Trouble After Throwing Out Monsanto AND The IMF

www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article36408.html
Hungary Throws Out Monsanto AND The IMF

www.trueactivist.com/hungary-destroys-al...nto-gmo-corn-fields/
Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields

www.marcussamuelsson.com/news/monsanto-b...take-serious-actions
Monsanto Bites the Dust: Hungary and Peru Ban GMO Crops and Take Serious Actions

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19514325
Hungary PM Viktor Orban rejects IMF loan terms

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-06/hungar...-minister-orban.html
Hungary Rejects IMF Aid Conditions, Premier Orban Says

www.zerohedge.com/news/hungary-rebels-ag...lines-aid-conditions
Hungary Rebels Against IMF, Declines Aid Conditions

www.business-standard.com/india/news/hun...e-for-deal/185728/on
Hungary PM rejects IMF terms, hopes fade for deal

www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/20110722/hung...gmo-maize-fields.htm
Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Maize Fields
I couldn't give one solitary shit whether Orban is 'left-wing', 'right-wing', or whatever, I fully support this action whatever context it is occurring in.

As for the other questions I asked, there's no much point in you trying to answer them as you patently don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 19:54 #50

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Guevarista wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Guevarista wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Is the Hungarian government misogynistic too?
Is the word petal now a misogynistic slur?

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Ah, I see.... you were using it in a post-modern ironic way to indicate your recognition of Gilly as an equal. :roll:
I was just being condescending. :yinyan:

Shot yourself in the foot then sunshine, since you went on to make statements you couldn't back up when challenged to, and hence proving yourself to be a bit dim. That's not really a position you can be taken seriously from, when attempting to be condescending, now is it! ;)

I expect you'll have some answers to other people's questions though, once you've re-consulted the Monsanto website. It remains to be seen whether anyone can be arsed reading them, of course. It strikes me as a waste of time tbh. :roll:
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 09 Sep 2012 22:56 #51

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Since when would monsanto update their website the moment they get kicked out of a country and since when does THAT company's website have anything of value on it?

/gets a giant wet kipper and slaps Gue with it.

WTF are you doing standing up for imperialist capitalist scumbags? lmfao :D
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 10 Sep 2012 00:16 #52

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batou wrote:
food inc is 1 movie, but whats the other one?

i dont want to dedicate 16 hours to watching movies about it.. which is best to see?

The Future of Food? This documentary keeps getting pulled down because of copyright so you will need to hunt for a working stream or download. Food Inc also suffers from zealous copyright protection making it hard for some people to access...so much for getting the word out and fighting the cause. :roll:

They're all worth watching and spreading about IMHO.
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 10 Sep 2012 01:38 #53

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Food Inc also suffers from zealous copyright protection making it hard for some people to access...so much for getting the word out and fighting the cause. :roll:
It was commercially distributed, this is the price you pay for getting your film in cinemas, or you can have virtually no-one see it in all probability, apart from a few people who already know about the content.
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 10 Sep 2012 01:47 #54

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Bahaha great post WUB :D
You copy and pasted pro-​GMO mate­r­ial straight from the Mon­santo web­site here:

sanc​tum​zone​.co​.uk/​f​o​r​u​m​/​G​e​n​e​r​a​l​/​5​6​4​0​5​-​M​o​n​s​a​n​t​o​.​h​t​m​l​#​5​6​5​2​0

And here:

sanc​tum​zone​.co​.uk/​f​o​r​u​m​/​G​e​n​e​r​a​l​/​5​6​4​0​5​-​M​o​n​s​a​n​t​o​.​h​t​m​l​#​5​6​5​2​1
What does me posting information from Monsanto's website prove do you think WUB?
Yes, com­plete shys­ter. Firstly, you’re not ‘left-​wing’. ‘Gue­varista’ and your avatar is a just a badge you wear, it means noth­ing. You copy and pasted pro-​GMO mate­r­ial straight from the Mon­santo web­site here:

sanc​tum​zone​.co​.uk/​f​o​r​u​m​/​G​e​n​e​r​a​l​/​5​6​4​0​5​-​M​o​n​s​a​n​t​o​.​h​t​m​l​#​5​6​5​2​0

And here:

sanc​tum​zone​.co​.uk/​f​o​r​u​m​/​G​e​n​e​r​a​l​/​5​6​4​0​5​-​M​o​n​s​a​n​t​o​.​h​t​m​l​#​5​6​5​2​1

Hardly some­thing I’d expect to see from a self-​proclaimed ‘left-​wing’ rad­i­cal.
Is that the level of research you put into your books? pffft...

Would you rather not know about things like this?:
The mag­ni­tude of the global GM seed mar­ket is esti­mated at $ 13 bil­lion in 2011, while it pro­duced a crop was val­ued at $ 160 bil­lion. Future prospects: the Mil­len­nium Devel­op­ment Goals (UN MDG tar­get) by 2015 may grow by ten coun­tries plant­ing biotech crops camp, in North Amer­ica in 2013, Africa in 2017 will start in the drought-​tolerant GM maize cul­ti­va­tion; 2013/​14-​ben resump­tion of golden rice grown in the Philip­pines, GM corn, 30 mil­lion acres of poten­tial in China, fol­lowed by Bt rice.

Why not post the third link I posted to the article that quoted scientific studies proving Roundup contributes to Parkinsons disease, did you miss it?
sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/56405-Monsanto.html#56547


What do you base me being Pro-IMF on?? This is about the 3rd time I've asked you now.

Do you understand that posting websites carrying the headline "Monsanto thrown out of Hungary" does not prove anything?

It would seem from all evidence I;ve seen that Monsanto are still operating in the country despite GMO seeds and foods being banned there, they're at least still advertising for sales reps:
Monsanto
Sales representative East Hungary and Romania
Modified:Saturday, September 08, 2012
www.hirediversity.com/jobseekers/jobs/view.asp?ID=3376219

So it would appear I am still right, Hungary has "thrown out" neither Monsanto, or the IMF.
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 10 Sep 2012 01:52 #55

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Since when would monsanto update their website the moment they get kicked out of a country and since when does THAT company's website have anything of value on it?

/gets a giant wet kipper and slaps Gue with it.

WTF are you doing standing up for imperialist capitalist scumbags? lmfao :D
Apart from last year burning loads of Monsanto GMO crops, what evidence is there for Monsanto being "thrown out" of Hungary?
Monsanto Vegetable Seeds Division
1238 Budapest
Majori út
Hungary
Tel.: 00 36 1 289 3100
Fax: 00 36 1 289 3131
www.deruiterseeds.hu
www.seminis.hu

It would seem to me from the small bit of research on the question I have done, that Monsanto still operate in Hungary, they still have Hungarian websites, and addresses and Telephone numbers in Hungary.

As for standing up for capitalist imperialist scumbags, baahahahaha, you conspiracy guys and your wild logic :D
Thrown out?? :rofl:
monsanto.jobs/search?location=hungary&q=

Lol, btw, pre-emptively; WUB, just because I posted that link doesn't mean I work in recruitment for Monsanto :thumbup:
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Re: Hungary Throws Out Monsanto and The IMF 10 Sep 2012 01:58 #56

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Gilly wrote:
Guevarista wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Guevarista wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Is the Hungarian government misogynistic too?
Is the word petal now a misogynistic slur?

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Ah, I see.... you were using it in a post-modern ironic way to indicate your recognition of Gilly as an equal. :roll:
I was just being condescending. :yinyan:

Shot yourself in the foot then sunshine, since you went on to make statements you couldn't back up when challenged to, and hence proving yourself to be a bit dim. That's not really a position you can be taken seriously from, when attempting to be condescending, now is it! ;)

I expect you'll have some answers to other people's questions though, once you've re-consulted the Monsanto website. It remains to be seen whether anyone can be arsed reading them, of course. It strikes me as a waste of time tbh. :roll:
Gilly, do you think Monsanto or the IMF have been kicked out of Hungary?
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Guevarista wrote:
andyh wrote:
Since when would monsanto update their website the moment they get kicked out of a country and since when does THAT company's website have anything of value on it?

/gets a giant wet kipper and slaps Gue with it.

WTF are you doing standing up for imperialist capitalist scumbags? lmfao :D
Apart from last year burning loads of Monsanto GMO crops, what evidence is there for Monsanto being "thrown out" of Hungary?
Monsanto Vegetable Seeds Division
1238 Budapest
Majori út
Hungary
Tel.: 00 36 1 289 3100
Fax: 00 36 1 289 3131
www.deruiterseeds.hu
www.seminis.hu

It would seem to me from the small bit of research on the question I have done, that Monsanto still operate in Hungary, they still have Hungarian websites, and addresses and Telephone numbers in Hungary.

As for standing up for capitalist imperialist scumbags, baahahahaha, you conspiracy guys and your wild logic :D
Thrown out?? :rofl:
monsanto.jobs/search?location=hungary&q=

Lol, btw, pre-emptively; WUB, just because I posted that link doesn't mean I work in recruitment for Monsanto :thumbup:

Did you expect their website to be updated after this happened the same week or two?
Its only like dozens of news media outlets have reported the same thing, lol!!

I'm sure monsanto will make a major effort to update their website (and everyone and everything else connected inc jobs posted over a month ago) within hours of it happening you know... ffs lol :)
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andyh wrote:
Guevarista wrote:
andyh wrote:
Since when would monsanto update their website the moment they get kicked out of a country and since when does THAT company's website have anything of value on it?

/gets a giant wet kipper and slaps Gue with it.

WTF are you doing standing up for imperialist capitalist scumbags? lmfao :D
Apart from last year burning loads of Monsanto GMO crops, what evidence is there for Monsanto being "thrown out" of Hungary?
Monsanto Vegetable Seeds Division
1238 Budapest
Majori út
Hungary
Tel.: 00 36 1 289 3100
Fax: 00 36 1 289 3131
www.deruiterseeds.hu
www.seminis.hu

It would seem to me from the small bit of research on the question I have done, that Monsanto still operate in Hungary, they still have Hungarian websites, and addresses and Telephone numbers in Hungary.

As for standing up for capitalist imperialist scumbags, baahahahaha, you conspiracy guys and your wild logic :D
Thrown out?? :rofl:
monsanto.jobs/search?location=hungary&q=

Lol, btw, pre-emptively; WUB, just because I posted that link doesn't mean I work in recruitment for Monsanto :thumbup:

Did you expect their website to be updated after this happened the same week or two?
Its only like dozens of news media outlets have reported the same thing, lol!!

I'm sure monsanto will make a major effort to update their website (and everyone and everything else connected inc jobs posted over a month ago) within hours of it happening you know... ffs lol :)
Andy, this monsanto in Hungary thing, when Hungary burned GMO crops happened last year, not last week :rofl:
Current jobs for Monsanto in Hungary:
monsanto.jobs/search?location=hungary&q=
DO you think it's strange they still have offices and hire employees in Hungary, despite all WUB's links saying "they were thrown out"?
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Bahaha great post WUB :D
Thank you very much. I think it's quite evident to everyone who has read this thread that I've wasted my valuable time in talking to you at all, and you have simply shown yourself up.[/quote]
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Bahaha great post WUB :D
Thank you very much. I think it's quite evident to everyone who has read this thread that I've wasted my valuable time in talking to you at all, and you have simply shown yourself up.
WUB, do you still believe Monsanto and the IMF have been "Thrown out of Hungary"?
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

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9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

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Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

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