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Re: Frankenstorm 04 Nov 2012 19:37 #181

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As a pig mod I can see deleted posts, andyh hasn't deleted owt on the previous page.

Carry on.
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Re: Frankenstorm 04 Nov 2012 19:48 #182

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oioioi wrote:
As a pig mod I can see deleted posts, andyh hasn't deleted owt on the previous page.

Carry on.

Told ya. ;) :scotty:


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Re: Frankenstorm 04 Nov 2012 20:06 #183

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Thanks, oioioi. Maybe when the page was loading I saw one of his posts and it appeared to be the last post.

Or maybe hugo is on to something :scotty:
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Re: Frankenstorm 04 Nov 2012 20:09 #184

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noseymutegirl wrote:
:couch: Will it stop?

@andy, when I opened up this page for an instant I saw a post right here in this spot from you and poof it disappeared. Did you just erase a post in which you admitted that you were wrong? And then you deleted it?
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Nah, I must be dreaming I really did see a post though and it disappeared before I could read it
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Only got back in recently, someone haxoring my account then? :p
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Re: Frankenstorm 04 Nov 2012 20:37 #185

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I don't know andy, but if you look around this forum you will see many people, here and there with alternates. :aargh: You better keep an eye on yours.... just saying..... :umm:
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Re: Frankenstorm 04 Nov 2012 20:43 #186

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If I start posts telling people to suck up to authority and hope for a perfect benevolent dictator then you know its not me :D
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 18:24 #187

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Emergency utility crews from Georgia, Alabama and Florida have all been turned away by New Jersey and New York. They are not allowed to assist in restoring power to millions of people until they sign a 300 page contract with IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers).
A business coordinator at a power company in western Georgia told The Daily Caller Friday afternoon that workers from his electric-utility employer were not permitted to help restore power to New York consumers because they would not join the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW).

The revelation comes on the heels of similar stories TheDC has reported about power crews from Alabama and Florida who volunteered to fix downed power lines after Hurricane Sandy left millions in the Northeastern United States in the dark this week.

“They worked in Maryland, and they went up to New York, and when they got up there it was, ‘out come the union papers.’”

“And our guys were like, ‘Hey, we’re not joining nothing. We came up to help, but if you don’t want it, that’s fine.’ So they turned around and drove all the way back here to Georgia.”

On Thursday evening WAFF-TV in Huntsville, Ala. reported that the devastated coastal town of Seaside Heights, N.J. turned away a crew from Decatur Utilities in Decatur, Ala., saying they couldn’t do any work there because they’re not union employees. (RELATED: New Jersey utility denies turning away nonunion electric crew volunteers from Alabama)

Decatur Utilities general manager Ray Hardin said Friday during a Fox Business Network broadcast that ”we were presented with documents from IBEW that required our folks to affiliate with the union. And [that's] something that we could not agree to. And it was our understanding, and still is, that that was a requirement of working in that area.”

On Friday TheDC spoke with a veteran electric utility worker from central Florida whose crew was kept idling for two days while his managers dealt with the union’s membership demands.

Read more: dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/theres-more-g...union/#ixzz2BNEXiEcL
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 18:35 #188

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Oh FFS! It's beyond belief! :mad:
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 18:57 #189

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:facepalm:
I came into this world kicking and screaming while covered in someone elses blood
and I have no problem with going out the same way :twisted:
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 19:01 #190

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I've never even heard of the International Brotherhood of Electric Workers. Some sick and twisted priorites they've got there.

If I didn't know better I would think that someone wants things to deteroriate.
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 19:02 #191

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Or a freeze on the elections... heard that one mentioned already, on the news.
Make up some group, try and get people to sign up knowing most wont, freeze the elections up indefinitely.
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 19:43 #192

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The Daily Caller is a Republican front outfit.

Oh looky.......
* Fox News and other right-wing outlets blasted the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) for refusing to allow non-union utility workers from Decatur Utilities in Alabama from assisting with Hurricane Sandy recovery efforts in New Jersey. It turns out the entire story is false.

According to a press conference with Decatur Utilities General Manager Ray Hardin, Decatur Utilities received a set of documents from the Electric Cities of Alabama Association about potential union contracts they might possibly face in the Northeast. Hardin stated that the company never had contact with the union or the utility companies in New Jersey. The company was merely concerned about whether the union contracts might apply to them since they were a non-unionized company.

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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 20:21 #193

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What? So they are stirring up anti-union sentiment, maybe?
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 20:33 #194

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Some clarification form Alabama.com?
Decatur Utilities verifies claims workers were asked to affiliate with union before aiding storm victims (update)-- Nov 2

DECATUR, Alabama - Ray Hardin, general manager of Decatur Utilities, verified claims that his crews were returned home from Hurricane Sandy recovery because they are not union-affiliated but he says they were not "turned away."

Media reports overnight stated that three area utilities were turned away in New Jersey, but Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Cooperative said this morning the claims are not true.

Huntsville crews are working today on Long Island and Joe Wheeler crews, which are unionized, are on their way home after completing jobs in Maryland for Sandy recovery.

The press release states that six Decatur Utilities workers were not in New Jersey but were stopped at a staging area in Virginia and asked to sign papers for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers before they could assist in storm recovery.
Here is the press release in its entirety:

"Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the Northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, N.J., to assist with power restoration. Communication with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas. As we waited for clarification, we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights."In connection with state and regional public power associations, Decatur Utilities attempted to contact other areas that needed assistance. However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday."

blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/decatur_uti..._manager_veri_1.html

What's with all the red tape in an emergency situation?
If I am reading this right... they were not "turned away" per se, but were held up by union requirements.
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 20:45 #195

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What's with all the red tape in an emergency situation?
If I am reading this right... they were not "turned away" per se, but were held up by union requirements.

Yep, just another example of why I detest unions.
They're a part of govt now, they're a shadow of what they used to be. They've become counter-productive.
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 20:52 #196

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When do you think they turned bad, andy?

Some people think Robert Kennedy was at least partially assassinated because of his anti-union stance - in 1968.
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Re: Frankenstorm 05 Nov 2012 21:46 #197

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When do you think they turned bad, andy?

Some people think Robert Kennedy was at least partially assassinated because of his anti-union stance - in 1968.

Varies according to country. In the Thatcher era in the UK imho.
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Re: Frankenstorm 08 Nov 2012 21:30 #198

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I hope we'll hear from RA soon. I' hate to think he's got problems beyond the power being down. :(
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Re: Frankenstorm 08 Nov 2012 23:04 #199

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Some people's power got knocked out again after having got it started up after a week without when a new storm came in. Some still haven't got it at all. This new storm knocked down even more trees and lines.

We can keep this candle lit for RA until he gets back.


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