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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 17:21 #41

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@ curtaincat

The funny thing about that spoof article is how close to the bone it is. On the scary side, there are enough 'poor people' who think the same. Only they are too dumb to realise that they are 'poor people' too.

Funnily enough, a mate of mine forwarded this email to me today. It sounds suspiciously like TriggerAndy who enjoyed a stint of trolling on the DIF. I don't know if anyone remembers him. Didn't he also work on a North Sea oil rig and spout this kind of objectionable shite?

This is the email...
Who is going to tell Mr. Cameron & Co? It seems the perfect solution to save a big fat wad of money.

The Urine test (This was written by a rig worker in the North Sea - What he says makes a lot of sense!)

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig for a drilling contractor. I am required to pass a random urine test for drugs and alcohol, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.
I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking dope.
Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque?
Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete it if you don't.
Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in the UK , and soon!
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 17:34 #42

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HAHA! Well spotted Les, yes thats trig alright :)
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 17:49 #43

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I almost shudder when I think about this vileness being forwarded around cyber-space with gay abandon. Needless to say, I replied to my friend's email pointing out that the guy sounded like a Daily Mail journalist, Conservative voter and tbh, a complete tosser.

Trigger Andy's opinions being forwarded in emails and people thinking it's a good idea? There is a pestilence upon this land :oldfart:
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 17:56 #44

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
I almost shudder when I think about this vileness being forwarded around cyber-space with gay abandon. Needless to say, I replied to my friend's email pointing out that the guy sounded like a Daily Mail journalist, Conservative voter and tbh, a complete tosser.

Trigger Andy's opinions being forwarded in emails and people thinking it's a good idea? There is a pestilence upon this land :oldfart:

Lmao!!!
Do you remember when he put up his pay slip for the world to see?
After harping on for ages about how big his salary was and all that he ended up with less take home after tax than I get the daft bastard LOL!!!
I remember he wasn't too happy about the comments he got and laughs at his tax bill....
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 18:22 #45

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
@ curtaincat

The funny thing about that spoof article is how close to the bone it is. On the scary side, there are enough 'poor people' who think the same. Only they are too dumb to realise that they are 'poor people' too.

Funnily enough, a mate of mine forwarded this email to me today. It sounds suspiciously like TriggerAndy who enjoyed a stint of trolling on the DIF. I don't know if anyone remembers him. Didn't he also work on a North Sea oil rig and spout this kind of objectionable shite?

This is the email...
Who is going to tell Mr. Cameron & Co? It seems the perfect solution to save a big fat wad of money.

The Urine test (This was written by a rig worker in the North Sea - What he says makes a lot of sense!)

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig for a drilling contractor. I am required to pass a random urine test for drugs and alcohol, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.
I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking dope.
Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque?
Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete it if you don't.
Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in the UK , and soon!
I think I have found the source of this BTW:

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/15653

Seventy-three signatures, so there is some remote sanity left in the UK.

Edit: Actually, there are quite a few forums making reference to it that pre-date this petition, but someone obviously had the bright idea of turning it into a petition.
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Last Edit: 26 Jul 2012 18:26 by wake_up_bomb.
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 18:36 #46

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@ Andy - I missed that particular gem. I really wouldn't be shocked to learn that he wrote that spiel about giving urine tests to benefit claimants.

@WUB - Gosh! I didn't think it would be from a petition.
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 19:53 #47

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He said: "Getting a discount with your plumber by paying cash in hand is something that is a big cost to the Revenue and means others have to pay more in tax.

No it isn't. It is a comparatively small cost. Compared to say the burden on the tax payer of the Olympics:

"A Sky investigation has revealed the final cost for the Games will be more than £12bn.
However, associated costs could make the bill as high as £24bn - a staggering 10 times the original estimate." Source Sky News

Or say queenie's recent party:

"The cost to the taxpayer for the London Olympics could hit £11 billion ($17.4 billion), rather than the expected £9.3 billion ($14.7 billion), according to a recent government watchdog report."

Just those two one off events amount to nearly 18 years of plumbers being paid in cash and not declaring it based on the £2 billion figure given in the article.
"I think it is morally wrong. It is illegal for the plumber but it is pretty implicit in those circumstances that there is a reason why there is a discount for cash. That is a large part of the hidden economy."

No it isn't. It's a comparatively small cost:

"In the UK's case £69.9 billion is lost on a yearly basis in what the Tax Justice Network call the "shadow economy." source New Statesman.

Let's not forget that the plumbers are not taking their cash overseas. They are ploughing it back into the UK economy daily.

Very good post, shows the blatant duplicity of these Tory pigs.

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The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 26 Jul 2012 21:08 #48

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When they say "hidden economy" is that the part of the economy that hasn't gone completely tits up and been screwed to buggary by the likes of them and the traders?

Or is it more like the 75% of job vacancies that are apparently "hidden"?

Who knew "hidden" could have so many meanings? I am confooosed. What time is Eastenders on?
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Re: Paying Tradesmen in Cash "Morally Wrong" 27 Jul 2012 23:27 #49

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Any roofers on this forum want a cash in hand job? 3 story terrace house. My best quote so far is £3700 this is for brand new roof . Been told the roofer who put the roof up had not put breathable membranes underneath so this is why im getting so much damp in this house from hell ive bought.
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