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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:11 #21

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Everything was OK until the euro/single currency appeared ,quite simple really...try not overcomplicate the situation eh..one day you just might get it ...


Ummm you're deciding to attribute a global crisis to a currency that only exists within the EU.
There's simple and then there's stupid tbh. This so called crisis began in the US, have you forgotten already? :)
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:13 #22

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The Eu is a way better idea than keeping the Monarchy.

They've kept both :D
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:15 #23

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Mike wrote:
The Eu is a way better idea than keeping the Monarchy.

Make your mind up Mike ffs....

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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:21 #24

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andyh wrote:
Mike wrote:
The Eu is a way better idea than keeping the Monarchy.

They've kept both :D

It's not been a fully realized idea but in terms of human evolution it's a very progressive idea.
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:23 #25

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Mike wrote:
andyh wrote:
Mike wrote:
The Eu is a way better idea than keeping the Monarchy.

They've kept both :D

It's not been a fully realized idea but in terms of human evolution it's a very progressive idea.

Its just moving a govts map to cover a larger area.
Its still the same sort of govt. Same pillocks, even less democracy if anything.

The only plus that can be said for it is the ease of travel and trade, thats it. Nothing else.

The negatives are a much longer list.

Now if Switzerland were to do the same thing with THEIR style of govt I just might be interested....
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:28 #26

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WUB this is why I keep on asking you, if you had £50,000 quid coming (but no-where to live), sort of...........

Where do you hide that stash?

Answers in plain English please, Andyh that means you too :)

You have 2 choices, invest in somewhere to live in the UK or perhaps something useful like a motor camper van or you move out of the uk permenantly, 50k would get you into oz as they require a 10k deposit iirc

Btw once Spain goes this would make my DIF prediction thread complete apart from the digital money bit

So jhado whats going on here then?
Got an inheritance coming?
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:31 #27

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andyh wrote:
andyh wrote:
jhado wrote:
WUB this is why I keep on asking you, if you had £50,000 quid coming (but no-where to live), sort of...........

Where do you hide that stash?

Answers in plain English please, Andyh that means you too :)

You have 2 choices, invest in somewhere to live in the UK or perhaps something useful like a motor camper van or you move out of the uk permenantly, 50k would get you into oz as they require a 10k deposit iirc

Btw once Spain goes this would make my DIF prediction thread complete apart from the digital money bit

So jhado whats going on here then?
Got an inheritance coming?

That'll be leftovers from the divorce , £50,000 but no home, and I don't wanna spunk it all on renting somewhere.
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:34 #28

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andyh wrote:
Ummm you're deciding to attribute a global crisis to a currency that only exists within the EU.
There's simple and then there's stupid tbh. This so called crisis began in the US, have you forgotten already? :)

I am not in debt because I do not borrow money I cannot afford to pay back, so in a nutshell everyone is responsible,the banks and the people who take out loans they will never be able to repay back...
Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power...

Almost nine out of 10 fraudulent mortgage applications were down to people falsifying their personal circumstances such as job history, work status and credit history...

Those most likely to submit a fraudulent mortgage application were middle-aged and skilled working class individuals.



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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociometric_status
www.independent.co.uk/money/mortgages/fa...n-fraud-8565528.html
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:36 #29

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jhado wrote:
andyh wrote:
andyh wrote:
jhado wrote:
WUB this is why I keep on asking you, if you had £50,000 quid coming (but no-where to live), sort of...........

Where do you hide that stash?

Answers in plain English please, Andyh that means you too :)

You have 2 choices, invest in somewhere to live in the UK or perhaps something useful like a motor camper van or you move out of the uk permenantly, 50k would get you into oz as they require a 10k deposit iirc

Btw once Spain goes this would make my DIF prediction thread complete apart from the digital money bit

So jhado whats going on here then?
Got an inheritance coming?

That'll be leftovers from the divorce , £50,000 but no home, and I don't wanna spunk it all on renting somewhere.

Aharr, well australia would be what I would do.
10k deposit (or more) in australia gets you a visa unless its changed recently.
You can certainly manage a more self reliant lifestyle there with that kind of dosh, the UK is like a bloody vacuum cleaner for money IMHO.

Your money is also probably far safer in aussie dollars than sterling too...or euro or us dollars lol.
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:38 #30

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andyh wrote:
Ummm you're deciding to attribute a global crisis to a currency that only exists within the EU.
There's simple and then there's stupid tbh. This so called crisis began in the US, have you forgotten already? :)

I am not in debt because I do not borrow money I cannot afford to pay back, so in a nutshell everyone is responsible,the banks and the people who take out loans they will never be able to repay back...
Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power...

Almost nine out of 10 fraudulent mortgage applications were down to people falsifying their personal circumstances such as job history, work status and credit history...

Those most likely to submit a fraudulent mortgage application were middle-aged and skilled working class individuals.



Sociometric status is a measurement that reflects the degree to which someone is liked or disliked by their peers as a group...A status symbol is a perceived visible, external denotation of one's social position and perceived indicator of economic or social status...Many luxury goods are often considered status symbols. Status symbol is also a sociological term – as part of social and sociological symbolic interactionism – relating to how individuals and groups interact and interpret various cultural symbols...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociometric_status
www.independent.co.uk/money/mortgages/fa...n-fraud-8565528.html

So its not just about the euro then is it? So why try to attribute blame to just that earlier?
Not like you to slip up that much LG.
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 12 May 2013 23:38 #31

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Aharr, well australia would be what I would do.
10k deposit (or more) in australia gets you a visa unless its changed recently.
You can certainly manage a more self reliant lifestyle there with that kind of dosh, the UK is like a bloody vacuum cleaner for money IMHO.

Your money is also probably far safer in aussie dollars than sterling too...or euro or us dollars lol.

Firstly, existing homeowners.

These were the median house prices across Australia’s five biggest cities rounded to the nearest grand……

Sydney: $577,000
Melbourne: $492,000
Perth: $475,000
Brisbane: $452,000
Adelaide: $379,000


www.bobinoz.com/blog/2196/the-cost-of-li...tralia-house-prices/
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LightGiver wrote:
andyh wrote:
Aharr, well australia would be what I would do.
10k deposit (or more) in australia gets you a visa unless its changed recently.
You can certainly manage a more self reliant lifestyle there with that kind of dosh, the UK is like a bloody vacuum cleaner for money IMHO.

Your money is also probably far safer in aussie dollars than sterling too...or euro or us dollars lol.

Firstly, existing homeowners.

These were the median house prices across Australia’s five biggest cities rounded to the nearest grand……

Sydney: $577,000
Melbourne: $492,000
Perth: $475,000
Brisbane: $452,000
Adelaide: $379,000


www.bobinoz.com/blog/2196/the-cost-of-li...tralia-house-prices/

Its pretty much similar across a lot of english speaking countries, especially in built up areas.
What you're looking for first and foremost is can you live there? Eg do they speak english? Do they have similar rules of law and govt etc?
Do they have similar culture? Can you get a job there realistically and keep it?

Those are far more important things to look at when moving than house prices.

After all, with the 40k you'd expect to be able to buy a motorhome and have plenty of change for living on until getting a job IMHO.

You compare that to your prospects where you are currently and weigh up the pros and cons. Each individual situation is different and obviously most weighted by family and people who are reliant on you.
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Everyone is responsible ..Collective responsibility is a concept or doctrine, according to which individuals are to be held responsible for other people's actions by tolerating, ignoring, or harboring them, without actively collaborating in these actions...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_budget
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Spain is Officially Insolvent 13 May 2013 00:27 #34

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Animals have always been regarded in Buddhist thought as sentient beings, different in their intellectual ability than humans but no less capable of feeling suffering...In cosmological terms, the animals were believed to inhabit a distinct "world", separated from humans not by space but by state of mind. This world was called Tiryagyoni in Sanskrit, Tiracchānayoni in Pāli. Rebirth as an animal was considered to be one of the unhappy rebirths, usually involving more than human suffering..The karmic acts of killing animals will have bad results for all of us... Buddhist commentarial texts depict many sufferings associated with the animal world: even where no human beings are present, they are attacked and eaten by other animals or live in fear of it, they endure extreme changes of environment throughout the year, and they have no security of habitation. Those that live among humans are often slaughtered for their bodies, or taken and forced to work with many beatings until they are slaughtered at the end of their lives. On top of this, they suffer from ignorance, not knowing or understanding with any clarity what is happening to them and unable to do much about it, acting primarily on instinct...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfighting
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_in_Buddhism
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Animals have always been regarded in Buddhist thought as sentient beings, different in their intellectual ability than humans but no less capable of feeling suffering...In cosmological terms, the animals were believed to inhabit a distinct "world", separated from humans not by space but by state of mind. This world was called Tiryagyoni in Sanskrit, Tiracchānayoni in Pāli. Rebirth as an animal was considered to be one of the unhappy rebirths, usually involving more than human suffering..The karmic acts of killing animals will have bad results for all of us... Buddhist commentarial texts depict many sufferings associated with the animal world: even where no human beings are present, they are attacked and eaten by other animals or live in fear of it, they endure extreme changes of environment throughout the year, and they have no security of habitation. Those that live among humans are often slaughtered for their bodies, or taken and forced to work with many beatings until they are slaughtered at the end of their lives. On top of this, they suffer from ignorance, not knowing or understanding with any clarity what is happening to them and unable to do much about it, acting primarily on instinct...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfighting
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_in_Buddhism

Yeah buddhism as a religion is one of the best out there.
Still, even then there are some buddhist monks who approve of violence and killing people.

www.thenation.com/article/174104/buddhist-violence-burma#

Its a shame but c'est la vie. Religion remains fucked up.

NB: You're going a bit OT here.
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Yeah buddhism as a religion is one of the best out there.
Still, even then there are some buddhist monks who approve of violence and killing people.

www.thenation.com/article/174104/buddhist-violence-burma#

Its a shame but c'est la vie. Religion remains fucked up.

Maybe they are not buddhists...but actors dressed up as buddhists...



People are fucked up regardless of religion..no excuses...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China
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LightGiver wrote:
andyh wrote:

Yeah buddhism as a religion is one of the best out there.
Still, even then there are some buddhist monks who approve of violence and killing people.

www.thenation.com/article/174104/buddhist-violence-burma#

Its a shame but c'est la vie. Religion remains fucked up.

Maybe they are not buddhists...but actors dressed up as buddhists...



People are fucked up regardless of religion..no excuses...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China

I could say the same of every religion on Earth, perhaps all of the religious people are just dressed up as being religious then? :)

Whats the communist (lol) party of china got to do with it then? And whats this got to do with the thread?
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I could say the same of every religion on Earth, perhaps all of the religious people are just dressed up as being religious then? :)

Whats the communist (lol) party of china got to do with it then? And whats this got to do with the thread?

You replied to the post,so I replied back ...maybe people just like to dress up in uniforms and make up story's...like the MSM for example...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocky_Horror_Picture_Show
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I could say the same of every religion on Earth, perhaps all of the religious people are just dressed up as being religious then? :)

Whats the communist (lol) party of china got to do with it then? And whats this got to do with the thread?

You replied to the post,so I replied back ...maybe people just like to dress up in uniforms and make up story's...like the MSM for example...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocky_Horror_Picture_Show

Yeah and???
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