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TOPIC: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions)

What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 10:58 #1

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What happened to him?
I remember the days when a man would bring Milk in glass bottles. He used to drive a strange electric vehicle. Such a nice sound. The start of a fresh dawn.
The Milk was nice too, very creamy and tasty.

Now we get huge 6 pint plastic containers from the supermarket. The milk is a bit thinner, tastes a tad crap, and often leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Have you seen the Milkman recently?

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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:00 #2

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Its not profitable to have a middleman delivering it now because you can get the sheeple to collect it themselves from the supermarkets :)
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:02 #3

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Our milky used to do the tastiest orange -juice too. :yup:
Forget yesterday. It has already forgotten you.
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:08 #4

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andyh wrote:
Its not profitable to have a middleman delivering it now because you can get the sheeple to collect it themselves from the supermarkets :)

Yeah. And it's partly my fault as well I suppose...although I sort of didn't notice his demise. This stuff is done in increments.

It's incredibly sad and infuriating.

We've done this to ourselves :facepalm: Is it too late to bring the Milkman back? I already know the answer to that question I think :(
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:32 #5

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He's still around :cheer: :D

Looks like a bit of a tough job in that weather :chuckle:
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:37 #6

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irrepressible wrote:
andyh wrote:
Its not profitable to have a middleman delivering it now because you can get the sheeple to collect it themselves from the supermarkets :)

Yeah. And it's partly my fault as well I suppose...although I sort of didn't notice his demise. This stuff is done in increments.

It's incredibly sad and infuriating.

We've done this to ourselves :facepalm: Is it too late to bring the Milkman back? I already know the answer to that question I think :(

Deffo too late, there's no chance of profiting in it so few bother with the business.
You need some fairly affluent but busy people as customers as you'd have to be making a living wage off it remember.
Can you imagine how much milk you'd have to sell to make a wage off the profit?
You can probably pad it out with other stuff like eggs, pop etc whatever but tesco even deliver now...you've no chance.
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:45 #7

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It's bloody crap Andy :mad:

Our local dairy down the road closed a couple of years ago. I'm sure loads of others are closing all the time.
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:48 #8

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Hmm... In my country we have never had him. In 'ere people used to have cows, even in town. Almost in every home. Not many, one or two usually. And if you didn't own one, your neighbor sure did. :)

This works even to this day in countryside. It's easy there to get fresh milk, without any magic done to it... Only thing needed is to know somebody who keeps cows, go and ask, pay a little and get best milk in the world. :) Too bad that ain't possible in town anymore.

I think one reason why milkman's not around any more, is that corporate interest cannot easily take it's share of the pie if milkguy delivers the milk straight from prducer to customer... No supermarket in between to steal some money. In past days, milkman was ofcourse payed, now it's supermarkets who are payed in between producer and customer. This also adds an layer of easy control and manipulation of the product. So any shit can be added, anything extracted etc. It sucks.
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 11:54 #9

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That sounds brilliant Hex :) Having such easy access to fresh milk.

Almost everyone where I live gets their milk from the supermarket, including us. The milk is a bit crap as well.
I didn't notice it happen either, things just changed and nobody batted an eyelid.

Now they'e talking about the mega dairies as well. One giant centralised dairy pumping out shitty milk :noway:

It's crazy.
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 12:02 #10

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irrepressible wrote:
It's bloody crap Andy :mad:

Our local dairy down the road closed a couple of years ago. I'm sure loads of others are closing all the time.

Thats the whole agenda of profit.
Eventually all that will be left is 1 giant mega corporation who owns the world. It is destiny :)

Question is will the human race wake up to what is happening?

You see...capitalism and free trade as it 'should' be does not exist, it hasn't for a long time.
Govt market controls have inevitably been twisted into support for the wealthiest lobbyists.
Politicians work for their paymasters, not the voters because they know damn well the voters will carry on voting left/right.
In some countries there isn't even the choice to do otherwise!
So the overall agenda remains.

True capitalism would involve free money, in other words people could trade whatever the hell they want in return for whatever the hell they want with no taxation or restrictions on it whatsoever.
This includes drugs, oil, petrol, whatever the hell.

If a private company is the sole issuer of money and charges for it and that money is the sole legal tender then we can see some rather obvious issues arising over time.
Its a ridiculous situation, profit is also wasteful, in the beginning it served humanity well because there was to begin with a very low knowledge of business practises and efficiency and technology, so the profit model worked reasonably well...
However today we can make stuff with incredibly low cost, so low that we throw away most of what we consume. We no longer have a need to repair, just replace. It is not profitable to make quality goods, people want cheap goods, its all about the NOW, the immediate gratification of consumer urges and then the looking forward to the next new bit of stuff to come along.

Meanwhile we pollute the crap out of the planet, stuff everything out of sight in landfills and pray that its all going to 'work out somehow'. This is basically the deluded mentality we live under, that this system can somehow remain forever.
It quite patently cannot, resources are not infinite. They are large for sure, but we don't even have a solid knowledge of how much resources we have because again there is profit to be had in secrecy :)

We could find out tomorrow that we are about to run out of something which would cause untold disaster but that would be ok as far as business is concerned...
Its amazing to see how strong an influence the MSM has because most people I meet are concerned almost totally with CO2.
An incredible feat of mass brainwashing! And the brainwashing was even done for profit! LMAO!! :D
We can even get billions of people now to believe that taxation will cure it!!!

Honestly, the whole world is batshit insane and if you see it for what it really is you begin to feel like an actor, you act at work, act with your 'friends' (I put it in quotemarks because lets face it, you can't discuss it with them, so are they really friends?), the complete and utter mental anguish and pain you go through once awakened to the socio-economic paradigm is at times unbearable, its easy to compare it to wanting the blue pill back :D

You cannot be who you are, its just not damned natural, everything stinks, food tastes crap, the news is bullshit, the media is bullshit, the politicians are bullshit, the banks are bullshit, the shops are bullshit, the religions and priests are bullshit, the teachers are bullshit, the councils are bullshit, the bin collection is bullshit.

You know the world is fucked 9 ways til sunday and just wtf can you do about it? :/
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 12:12 #11

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Well when you put it like that Andy...I think we're fucked!

We're surrounded by so much bullshit, people are used to the smell. That's the problem I think.

Excellent post Andy :thumbup:
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 12:55 #12

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Who can remember Ernie? the fastest milk man in the west. :emb:



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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 13:19 #13

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irrepressible wrote:
That sounds brilliant Hex :) Having such easy access to fresh milk.

Almost everyone where I live gets their milk from the supermarket, including us. The milk is a bit crap as well.
I didn't notice it happen either, things just changed and nobody batted an eyelid.

Now they'e talking about the mega dairies as well. One giant centralised dairy pumping out shitty milk :noway:

It's crazy.

It is! Too bad it can't be done here in town... My gf's mom runs a farm, we get fresh milk when ever we visit there. :D Something good in living in backwards oldfashioned country, Finland's so much left behind in this, that small farms still exist. Although they're getting few.

And only HUGE farms profit to keep going. It's quite saddening... Countryside's getting all tumbleweeds, people move out to find jobs in cities when farms close down. :(
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 13:42 #14

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Hey Andy, you're realism with the subject makes me sad. :(
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 14:29 #15

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Hexhammer wrote:
Hey Andy, you're realism with the subject makes me sad. :(

Only because I can vent this 'realism' with you guys :)
It makes me feel a bit better if nothing else, lol
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 14:32 #16

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I've seen him!! I've seen him!!

He still drives that natty electric thing and he often passes by my house. I'm not sure where he's going or what he's doing, but he's definitely still out there.

I also recently applied to be a 'milk-man' but it seems I was under qualified. :(

Gawd knows how, but they are still about. Yay!!!!!
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 14:58 #17

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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 15:01 #18

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How do people dispose of their rags and bones these days?
Charity shops and graveyards mate.
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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 15:03 #19

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When I was ickle the co-op used to deliver milk with a horse and cart or schoolkids with huge wheelbarrow type doobries.
Yeah THAT old! :(

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Re: What happened to the Milkman? (And other Milky questions) 29 Jun 2012 15:12 #20

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Never mind being that old, I wanna know what that there shop called "Chunky Box" sells, exactly. :hmm:
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