feather wrote:

Scan the list of signatories and contributors for all the prominent players either inside the administration or outside it cheer-leading and moulding consent/public opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

RealAmerican wrote:
No, because that would suggest that there is indeed something substantial to heir claims.

As I have explained before; the persecution of Jews serves an ulterior motive: something beyond their claims of justice and self preservation.

It serves to control what they really care about: what they perceive as their own ethnic group.

Once they point out that some of the PNAC (or Bilderburg or IMF or the Fed or whatever) are jewish they then go on to suggest that those members that are openly Methodist or Baptist or Catholic are somehow related to jews usually through some maternal relation.

So you have Jews, and genetic Jews: something easily to accuse political opponents of

Then they go on to talk of organisations such as Catholics, Freemasons, Marxists etc as having been created by and for jewish machinations along with the personal accusation of being somehow placing oneself in service to the jewish cause

These they say, think as a jew and they call them shabbat goy

So you have Jews, genetic jews and now those that think as jews

This last group they seem to bear particular emnity as they call them "blood traitors"

Basically any and all opposition from whom they see as "their people" can be crushed with the accsation of crypto jew or shabbt goy blood traitor.

Considering that jew, genetic je and shabbot goy all would meet the same fate, if they had their way it is no wonder that anybody forced to live under these Nazis would fear for their life had they a jewish great aunt or even no trace of jewish geneaology at all.

And THAT is what it is all about. The hatred is a means to the power and control through fear.

Sorry RA I'm not about to sit for an hour and a half watching that video.
I watched these fuckers closely during the whole debacle as it unfolded.
What point did you want me to get from it?

feather wrote:
The narrator has the same opinion that Bush was selected by them as sim­ply a recog­nised name for the store front.

If I remember correctly he goes into detail about it in the movie.

RealAmerican wrote: Let's face it he wasn't selected for his sharp intellect. Actually his lack of one probably made him more desirable as he'd be less likely to get in their way.

Don't be thinking that because PNAC technically disbanded that their game is over yet. Far from it.
Syria was supposed to be the next stop after Iraq. Seen the news lately?
Their arrogance didn't allow for Iraq being the hassle it became so the timetable was disrupted.
They predicted rose petals greeting their arrival, not IED's.

Who has Romney appointed as his Senior Foreign Policy Advisor?
John "I didn't want to die in an asian paddy field" chickenhawk, psycho, bastard, Bolton.

feather wrote:
Without a doubt I don't want Romney to win just for that fact alone.

And i agree with what you said about why Bush got the job.

RealAmerican wrote: Remember Jeb Bush was a member of PNAC and if it was just the name he would have done nicely.
But whether you agree with his politics or not, Jeb is a trillion times smarter than Dubya and would have proven difficult to control.

and surely no-one really believes that Dubya took the election via a dodgy count in his brothers state by coincidence?

RealAmerican wrote: mikey mikey wrote:
Mikey how dare you bring up that Wolfowitz, Perle and Feith are all jewish.

And then go as far as calling them the Reptilian Shapeshifting Hydra.

Mikey you better hope they don't read this on the DIF because your throwing more fuel on their fire.

RealAmerican wrote:
Never saw that coming, did you? When I got as far as the third name i had already realised that I had walked into it
RealAmerican wrote:
Well, blue, if they should overlook this, you can provide the link.

Rick wrote:
This is a ridiculous statement to make.

There again you live in America

Rick wrote:
Well this might explain why..

www.salon.com/2012/08/07/fbi_right_wing_terror_is_real/

RealAmerican wrote:
I have seen Bill Burr and Chris Rock do similar routines and I have to say that within the context of North America and Western Europe to a lesser extent, this is "on the ball" or at least next to it.

On a wider, more global context, it is not always true and actually seems a little self-indulgent on the West's part.



Much like Al Murray, this guy is playing to two audiences: the white-guilt audience see what the guy is saying as satire while the wingnut is hi-fiving is supremacist buddy as saying "white, fuck yeah!"

In fact the term "white" as this guy is using it, is not really about the pigmentation of one's skin: Spanish people, if they come from Barcelona, are "white" but if they, had been born in Mexico they would be Hispanic (white?). Equally, an american of Persian origin was "white" before 9-11.

"White" in the sense this gravy train rider is talking about is "white upper middle class American". It has nothing to do with Romanian children starving in orphanages.

I am not suggesting that overall white people don't have the most privilidged situation amongst the other ethnic groups, but there are more than a few examples of when you are white and poor and not a smug prick with a mic.

This post btw^^^^^^^ is preciseily the sort of "in defence of white people" post the "ghost skins" are trying to elicit. I have seen dozens of them on DIF that seem a PC guy talking about how "white folks have this and do this" but really set out to niggle white people with the feeling that they need to apologise for their ethnicity. The readers get fed up with this and react accordingly.Then the ghost skin passes the ball to his neo nazi mate who begins recruiting people into their ranks.

It's textbook PRS.

But of course, blue, you're not here for that.

mikey mikey wrote:
It also has nothing to do with the children in Appalachian Poverty.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/11/diane-...s-on-a_n_166041.html

RealAmerican wrote:
Quite right. And so the common enemy of the poor and disenfranchised children of the Appalachians and the poor and disenfranchised African americans in Detroit and the poor and disenfranchised Hispanic of Southern California or New Mexico are

1) each other?

or

2) the rich and over-privilidged?

mikey mikey wrote:
It's both, because it seems like people will hurt each other before they come together.

Im starting to think it's a human nature problem or the majority is satisfied.

Where was the million people in poverty that should have been in the streets of London protesting the Jubilee?

Or were were the million people that should have joined that small group protesting Raytheon at the RNC?

Where are all these people?

Most people in poverty can't afford the train fare to get to london.
Human nature is what's under attack, more it's evolution, development so you can't blame people for being under attack on a daily basis..Turning the tv and internet off reading and being "in the world" would be a big start.

RealAmerican wrote:
Starting to think?

Really?

I see that I was not being overly-cautious about this thread at all.