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TOPIC: Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"?

Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 11:45 #61

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I would say yes we do still live under the law of 'survival of the fittest' in that those best able to adapt to their surroundings and change survive better then those who don't.

Yes adaptation is key, not necessarily 'fittest'.
You can be as fit as hercules its not going to help much if you stay camped on the beach when high tide comes along.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 13:43 #62

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I am starting to think that all of your threads lead back to the topic of your Pastor Manning thread.
Admittedly, you have become more inventive and less direct about what you are nevertheless clearly driving towards.
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There are many different types of off grid that people contend with today, urbanites in boxes under bridges

Yea, people living on the streets in Apocalyptic poverty would also be considered off the Grid in a way.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 13:48 #63

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andyh wrote:
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Andy in those few weeks did you hunt for your food in the middle of nowhere,?

Yes.

What type of animals did you hunt?

The only thing I hunted was rabbit and fish.
Quite a few berries, dandelion.
Sometimes some eggs I remember..

I certainly wouldn't count it as real 'wild' or off-grid etc and I was a lot younger and tougher then. No way I'd manage it now.

How did you catch rabbit?
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 14:03 #64

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andyh wrote:
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andyh wrote:
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Andy in those few weeks did you hunt for your food in the middle of nowhere,?

Yes.

What type of animals did you hunt?

The only thing I hunted was rabbit and fish.
Quite a few berries, dandelion.
Sometimes some eggs I remember..

I certainly wouldn't count it as real 'wild' or off-grid etc and I was a lot younger and tougher then. No way I'd manage it now.

How did you catch rabbit?

With one of these

6 Ply Rabbit Snares Various Set Ups And Combinations [2] 3130 P


or one of these

82992 29037 Elmer Fudd
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 14:12 #65

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In my opinion to answer the question

Do we live on Earth under the Law of “Survival Of The Fittest”?

I say yes for the most part, as long as a person is able to work. and fend for themselves for the most part they are living under the description of survival and being fit to accomplish that.

But also in most of the societies on earth you have a system of caring for the ones not able to fend for themselves, and that particular situation of helping the weak, sick, and aged ones keeps many of the able ones employed.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 14:22 #66

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andyh wrote:
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What type of animals did you hunt?

The only thing I hunted was rabbit and fish.
Quite a few berries, dandelion.
Sometimes some eggs I remember..

Egg hunting? :chuckle:
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 14:34 #67

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Rick wrote:
In my opinion to answer the question

Do we live on Earth under the Law of “Survival Of The Fittest”?

I say yes for the most part, as long as a person is able to work. and fend for themselves for the most part they are living under the description of survival and being fit to accomplish that.

But also in most of the societies on earth you have a system of caring for the ones not able to fend for themselves, and that particular situation of helping the weak, sick, and aged ones keeps many of the able ones employed.

The Mayan looked after their old, sick and befuddled.

Nowdays we prefer to treat them as second class burdens and shut them away.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 14:48 #68

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hugorune wrote:
Rick wrote:
In my opinion to answer the question

Do we live on Earth under the Law of “Survival Of The Fittest”?

I say yes for the most part, as long as a person is able to work. and fend for themselves for the most part they are living under the description of survival and being fit to accomplish that.

But also in most of the societies on earth you have a system of caring for the ones not able to fend for themselves, and that particular situation of helping the weak, sick, and aged ones keeps many of the able ones employed.

The Mayan looked after their old, sick and befuddled.

Nowadays we prefer to treat them as second class burdens and shut them away.


Yes there many nightmare nursing homes, and probably the treatment and a cold attitude toward the old may get worse, but as long as money is available for their care they will for the most part live humanely
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 14:59 #69

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Yes there many nightmare nursing homes, and probably the treatment and a cold attitude toward the old may get worse, but as long as money is available for their care they will for the most part live humanely

I would rather die younger than go live in any nursing home...
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 15:13 #70

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Yes there many nightmare nursing homes, and probably the treatment and a cold attitude toward the old may get worse, but as long as money is available for their care they will for the most part live humanely

I would rather die younger than go live in any nursing home...


Some of those old folks are in decent shape. especially in a VA nursing home's they by far get the best treatment , trips, and the staff makes sure they eat, and the state home's are good and very well organized, the ones that seem to get the really rough case's of sick and weak, or incapacitated people are in the private nursing homes, or separate Alzheimer's facilities they have their work really cut out for them and it shows at times with incidents of one kind or the other.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 17:01 #71

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82992 29037 Elmer Fudd

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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 17:37 #72

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hugorune wrote:
Rick wrote:
In my opinion to answer the question

Do we live on Earth under the Law of “Survival Of The Fittest”?

I say yes for the most part, as long as a person is able to work. and fend for themselves for the most part they are living under the description of survival and being fit to accomplish that.

But also in most of the societies on earth you have a system of caring for the ones not able to fend for themselves, and that particular situation of helping the weak, sick, and aged ones keeps many of the able ones employed.

The Mayan looked after their old, sick and befuddled.

Nowdays we prefer to treat them as second class burdens and shut them away.

If they stick me away overseas like Poland or Russia, I would soon have em all meckin summat as DUBs would say, shoes or something, lol.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 17:48 #73

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mikey mikey wrote:
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I am starting to think that all of your threads lead back to the topic of your Pastor Manning thread.
Admittedly, you have become more inventive and less direct about what you are nevertheless clearly driving towards.
The Apprentice wrote:

There are many different types of off grid that people contend with today, urbanites in boxes under bridges

Yea, people living on the streets in Apocalyptic poverty would also be considered off the Grid in a way.

If I ever got home late after a night out on the lash, the door was normally locked after 11, and I spent manys a night sleeping in the warmth of the cowshed, and up for milking the next morning no bother. Tip for those sleeping in barns, don't sleep in a hay barn, or your gonna get covered in hay lice, make sure its a straw barn, much less itching involved.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 21:30 #74

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What type of animals did you hunt?

The only thing I hunted was rabbit and fish.
Quite a few berries, dandelion.
Sometimes some eggs I remember..

Egg hunting? :chuckle:

Hehe like Elmer Fudd :)
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 21:32 #75

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Andy in those few weeks did you hunt for your food in the middle of nowhere,?

Yes.

What type of animals did you hunt?

The only thing I hunted was rabbit and fish.
Quite a few berries, dandelion.
Sometimes some eggs I remember..

I certainly wouldn't count it as real 'wild' or off-grid etc and I was a lot younger and tougher then. No way I'd manage it now.

How did you catch rabbit?

Snare over the burrow and lay on me belly and waited
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 07 Jan 2013 23:43 #76

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Here are three ways we got bunnies in the past.

A. Dig a hole at the base of a wall so it spans either sideby about a foot, then place a platform to cover the hole, on top of the platform place a box of six inches with a balanced drop door, so when buggs runs through it drops into pit below and trap door moves back into set position, collect live food, which you can take to other areas to collonize.

B. Take a six foot length of barbed wire, attatch a wooden handle at one end, push wire into holes in a twisting motion until the eire wraps itself in the fur, pull out rabbit, many holes are blind trying runs so the animals are not that far in, I have had them coming out at me and caught them in hand, be careful with live ones, or theycan scratch the hell out of your hands or bare arms.

C. Light a small fire on holes lower down the sets and net the higher holt holes and wait.

D. Run at them by taking them by suprise, they sometime freeze.

E. Get yourself a border collie like ours, who pins them down until you get there.

F. Ferrets.

G. Find the nests and rear the young.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 08 Jan 2013 02:44 #77

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guy i know used to have 2 jack russells.. they'd run off into the brush, rustle around and come back with 6 baby rabbits and just eat them. it was a massacre. you get a good hunting dog you will hunt the shit out of stuff. rabbits, ducks, squirrels.. im serious, hunting with a dog coming with you.. theres nothing else like it.. i took down a deer with a dog next to me. i never felt more like a force of nature. i was part of the earth. there's something religious happens. i cant explain it.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 08 Jan 2013 04:02 #78

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How did you catch rabbit?
Honeytrap that suckah.

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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 08 Jan 2013 13:33 #79

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I think this fascination with zombies is a precursor to cannibalism, there's no way a bunch nasty hungry crazed psychotic humans in a dog eat survival scenario are going to find enough poor bunny rabbits to eat.
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Do we live on Earth under the Law of "Survival Of The Fittest"? 18 Jan 2013 14:22 #80

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I think this fascination with zombies is a precursor to cannibalism, there's no way a bunch nasty hungry crazed psychotic humans in a dog eat survival scenario are going to find enough poor bunny rabbits to eat.

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