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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 26 Dec 2012 23:44 #61

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newsone.com/2107596/edward-mcclelland-chief-keef/
Writing for NBC, veteran Chicago political journalist and author, Edward McClelland, described “Don’t Like” rapper Chief Keef‘s debut album on Interscope Records, Finally Rich, as a “minstrel show.”
According to McClelland, author of the books “Young Mr. Obama: Chicago and the Making of a Black President” and “Nothin’ But Blue Skies: The Heyday, Hard Times and Hopes of America’s Industrial Heartland,” the 17-year-old rapper is nothing but a “real live South Side thug” whom he hasn’t “the stomach for” in the wake of the horrifying massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conecticut, when 20-year-old Adam Lanza brutally murdered 20 children and 6 adults with a semi-automatic rifle, after killing his mother in her bed.

McClelland wrote that Keef’s, real name Keith Cozart, violent past and gang affiliation should have stopped him from listening, but his curiosity was “piqued”:

It should’ve been enough to put me off his music, which, from what I’ve heard of it, is pretty lunkheaded: simplistic rhymes, primitive beats. But it’s also a window into the world that has made Chicago the murder capital of America, and that piqued my curiosity.
Since last week’s murders at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, though, I haven’t had the stomach for any violent entertainment. While I was watching this Sunday’s Bears game, ads for the movies Gangster Squad and Django Unchained came on TV. Both ads packed two or three shootings into 30 seconds. I don’t want to see either. A culture that glorifies the sexiness of the man with the gun is one reason we have 300,000,000 guns in America. I also don’t want to pay $14 for the minstrel show of listening to a real live South Side thug. I don’t want to support a scene that makes gangbanging a resume builder for music success.
As previously reported by NewsOne, retaliation for the unsolved September 4 murder of Lil JoJo, 18, real name Joseph Coleman, has possibly led to multiple deaths that Chicago police are currently investigating. JoJo’s distraught mother, Robin Russell, said she doesn’t believe Chief Keef pulled the trigger, but she does believe that he hired a hitman and she also fears for her life.
JoJo taunted Keef, and associates Lil Durk and Lil Reese, in a diss track posted on YouTube. In a separate video, JoJo can be heard antagonizing an alleged Keef associate, who clearly responds, “I’ma kill you!” The tension escalated and threats were exchanged on Twitter, culminating with JoJo’s death mere hours later after he tweeted his location.
Chief Keef has continuously denied involvement, even after mocking the murder on Twitter.
Here’s the thing: I completely agree with McClelland. Chief Keef’s glorification of ignorance and gun violence should have never been given a platform. And Kanye West, who ushered in an era of vulnerability and consciousness in Hip-Hop on the commercial stage, before losing his damn mind in Maybachs and Kim Kardashian, has taken the coward’s way out by purposely giving Keef a platform to say things that he wouldn’t dare say in his own music.
But the entrenched racism at play in this “review” is evident.
It is absolutely amazing that it took the shooting at Sandy Hook for McClleland to “lose his stomach” for violence. As I previously wrote in a piece for Clutch Magazine, the violence in Chicago has been ignored by citizen and politician alike. As long as it remains quarantined in the hood, the murders of 6-year-old Aliyah Shell and 7-year-old Heaven Sutton, and the scores of other children mowed down before their lives truly began, will continue to fade away into footnotes in Chicago’s expanding history of violence.
Secondly, how dare he try to re-purpose the Sandy Hook shooting into an indictment on gun culture in urban communities?
Say it with me: Adam Lanza was a 20-year-old, White, “genius” from the suburbs who killed his mother in her bed and murdered babies. And, surprise, surprise, he doesn’t look — at all — like Chief Keef.
I agree with McClelland’s aversion to gun culture 100 percent; but it can not be remedied in a bubble. We can’t just “lose our stomach” only when it happens in Suburbia, because the biggest thugs are not on Chicago’s South Side. They’re in Washington, sharing cocktails with the NRA, watching things fall apart while their pockets get fatter.
And those gang-bangers can not be ignored.
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 27 Dec 2012 00:18 #62

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Amazing. It's sad how these people get stepped on. I for one wish she was my doctor. I can't say vaccines have done me significant damage but psychiatric drugs definitely have.

I'm really, really both scared and skeptical of psychiatric drugs...

But i've seen people have schizophrenic attacks that need them so i can't say for sure...

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They aren't completely useless, i know they can help with depression at first. But to me it just seems like psychiatrists don't understand their own products enough..mine is trying to make me take 3 different pills a day...f*ck no. All she says is 'not working? Increase dose!' I just don't take them anymore..besides effexor, keeps me from killing people.. :chuckle:
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 27 Dec 2012 23:45 #63

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Amazing. It's sad how these people get stepped on. I for one wish she was my doctor. I can't say vaccines have done me significant damage but psychiatric drugs definitely have.

I'm really, really both scared and skeptical of psychiatric drugs...

But i've seen people have schizophrenic attacks that need them so i can't say for sure...

:dunno:
They aren't completely useless, i know they can help with depression at first. But to me it just seems like psychiatrists don't understand their own products enough..mine is trying to make me take 3 different pills a day...f*ck no. All she says is 'not working? Increase dose!' I just don't take them anymore..besides effexor, keeps me from killing people.. :chuckle:

www.nytimes.com/2011/03/06/health/policy...?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"Talk Doesn’t Pay, So Psychiatry Turns Instead to Drug Therapy"
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 28 Dec 2012 19:40 #64

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DNA of Sandy Hook killer Adam Lanza to be examined for 'evil' gene in first study of its kind ever conducted on a mass murderer

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253797...r.html#ixzz2GNRzkugg
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 28 Dec 2012 19:51 #65

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DNA of Sandy Hook killer Adam Lanza to be examined for 'evil' gene in first study of its kind ever conducted on a mass murderer

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253797...r.html#ixzz2GNRzkugg

Evil gene?
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 28 Dec 2012 20:17 #66

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"The study of the killer's DNA has been ordered by Connecticut Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver who carried out the post mortems on all the victims."

*Sigh* :roll:

If it's the first study of its kind, what will they use to substantiate their deductions?

If they identified said 'evil gene', how would they then use that knowledge? Compulsory gene test on all newborns? Then what?

Smoke, mirrors & BS spring to mind.

However, if it'll help them pin the crime on the patsy, I bet they'll find it. And I bet Lee Harvey Oswald was afflicted with it too.
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 02:11 #67

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Gilly wrote:

"The study of the killer's DNA has been ordered by Connecticut Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver who carried out the post mortems on all the victims."

*Sigh* :roll:

If it's the first study of its kind, what will they use to substantiate their deductions?

If they identified said 'evil gene', how would they then use that knowledge? Compulsory gene test on all newborns? Then what?

Smoke, mirrors & BS spring to mind.

However, if it'll help them pin the crime on the patsy, I bet they'll find it. And I bet Lee Harvey Oswald was afflicted with it too.

Yea, I also find also this shit strange Gilly...
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 17:00 #68

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That article is seriously disturbing RA :(

dailymail... :uk:

Yes, but I think you selected it for posting yesterday because it fits in with your way of thinking. Remind me - where did you post that article yesterday, RA?

I don't have a set way of thinking, i'm always open to learn Gilly...

No need to shift Humanspirit thread off topic with this dailymail story about the "Evil Gene"
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 17:08 #69

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That article is seriously disturbing RA :(

dailymail... :uk:

Yes, but I think you selected it for posting yesterday because it fits in with your way of thinking. Remind me - where did you post that article yesterday, RA?

I don't have a set way of thinking, i'm always open to learn Gilly...

I'll be pleased to see evidence of that, in the form of your refraining from certain oft repeated nonsense about our adoration of you know who. :queen: :)
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No need to shift Humanspirit thread off topic with this dailymail story about the "Evil Gene"

Er - fine. But it was yourself who raised it in that thread. :conf:
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 17:23 #70

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I'll be pleased to see evidence of that, in the form of your refraining from certain oft repeated nonsense about our adoration of you know who. :queen: :)

Please tell me your not one of the "Royals bring in tourism money to the UK" type people Gilly... :facepalm:
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No need to shift Humanspirit thread off topic with this dailymail story about the "Evil Gene"
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Er - fine. But it was yourself who raised it in that thread. :conf:

The story was just posted in response to this post by noseymutegirl & oioioi...
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I think our environment and the nurture situation are things that we are able to control in how we will react to it. You can have an abused kid who grows up to be a killer, and someone who was abused even more severely who will not. Those are decisions and are not beyond our control. They shape us only how we decide they will.

But I interpret that as we all have the potential/blueprint/capability to do what any other human has done already, be that good or bad/evil, you seem to suggest otherwise.
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 17:54 #71

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I'll be pleased to see evidence of that, in the form of your refraining from certain oft repeated nonsense about our adoration of you know who. :queen: :)

Please tell me your not one of the "Royals bring in tourism money to the UK" type people Gilly... :facepalm:

She just asked you to stop that.

Deliberately obtuse man strikes again! :roll:
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 18:42 #72

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I'll be pleased to see evidence of that, in the form of your refraining from certain oft repeated nonsense about our adoration of you know who. :queen: :)

Please tell me your not one of the "Royals bring in tourism money to the UK" type people Gilly... :facepalm:

I've already been open with my views about it on here - as have most people. So now, why would I tell you anything about it at this point, when you've not read what's been stated, or you've chosen to ignore it on numerous previous occasions?

But good demo of your open willingness to learn. :roll:
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No need to shift Humanspirit thread off topic with this dailymail story about the "Evil Gene"
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Er - fine. But it was yourself who raised it in that thread. :conf:
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The story was just posted in response to this post by noseymutegirl & oioioi...

But my response was pointing out to you that it was you who raised it in Humanspirit's thread, hence it's slightly bewildering as to why you're telling me there's no point in derailing Humanspirit's thread with it. :D
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 18:43 #73

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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 18:48 #74

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Jesus christ did we have shrinks back then going round labelling all these 'autistic' people?

Personally I think all this assburgers stuff is complete and utter shite. It doesn't exist.
Its a medical term created out of thin air to treat with pills for profit.
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Gilly wrote:
But good demo of your open willingness to learn. :roll:

There was no reason for you to bring the :queen: up Gilly...

I know whats going on over there because i watched the Olympics this year..

The Jubilee highlights were on US TV so that's fact and it has nothing to do with my willingness to learn.

Back on topic Gilly...
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Personally I think all this assburgers stuff is complete and utter shite. It doesn't exist.
Its a medical term created out of thin air to treat with pills for profit.

I'm not sure it's always treated with pills Andy...
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Re: The effect of Aspergers / Autism in Americas new Teen Superstar... 29 Dec 2012 18:57 #77

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But good demo of your open willingness to learn. :roll:

There was no reason for you to bring the :queen: up then...

I know whats going on over there because i watched the Olympics this year..

They Jubilee highlights were on US TV so that's fact and it has nothing to do with my willingness to learn.

Back on topic Gilly...

It's was connected to your open willingness to learn - remember? Oh, and there's very often no good reason to bring the queen up, come to think of it.I suspect you didn't see any SZ members when you watched the Olympics or the Jubilee highlights btw. ;)

Now, back on topic - what do you think of Andy's assertion?

It's something I have suspicions about myself, but couldn't state it as a definite fact.

*Edit* I see you've answered Andy - what else is it treated with?
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It's was connected to your open willingness to learn - remember? I suspect you didn't see any SZ members when you watched the Olympics or the Jubilee highlights btw. ;)

Now, back on topic

Just for the record i never accused people here at SZ for being at the Jubilee Gilly

I only got mad when they moved & locked the Monarchy thread.

Now back on topic...
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But good demo of your open willingness to learn. :roll:

There was no reason for you to bring the :queen: up then...

I know whats going on over there because i watched the Olympics this year..

They Jubilee highlights were on US TV so that's fact and it has nothing to do with my willingness to learn.

Back on topic Gilly...

It's was connected to your open willingness to learn - remember? Oh, and there's very often no good reason to bring the queen up, come to think of it.I suspect you didn't see any SZ members when you watched the Olympics or the Jubilee highlights btw. ;)

Now, back on topic - what do you think of Andy's assertion?

It's something I have suspicions about myself, but couldn't state it as a definite fact.

*Edit* I see you've answered Andy - what else is it treated with?

Well here's what bugs me,.
If you take a look at ADHD etc and how its defined then you'll find most kids tick almost all the boxes!!
Its laughable, have we even got a definition of whats normal?
Is being 'normal' acceptable? I would say you're abnormal if you're well adjusted to an insane world, you must be brainwashed or something and need treating somehow... lol :)
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Now, back on topic - what do you think of Andy's assertion?

It's something I have suspicions about myself, but couldn't state it as a definite fact.

*Edit* I see you've answered Andy - what else is it treated with?

There is alot of natural cures on the Net but my friend thinks his son got Autism from vaccines so idk...
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