Me & the Mrs could really do without this at the minute.
A few weeks ago the Mrs's brother was in a car crash near Exeter. We were down in Plymouth visiting her parents & family at the time.
We got to Exeter hospital & he was airlifted to Plymouth. So we went back to Plymouth & saw him but his injuries were so severe we had to make the decision to switch off his life support. Absolutely tragic... only 23.

So we've come home after this major trauma, and on Friday it kicked off outside the local Tesco with these scallies on our estate who we've been having trouble with. They took the piss a while ago & had us over basically, then started threatening me. So we went round to one of them's parents house & basically gave him a load of shit in front of his parents, who just didn't seem to care. He's been on a tag for a while after he got caught burgling somebodies house round the corner, but now he's off it.

So we're outside Tesco & saw him & his mate, & he's basically started shouting in the Mrs' face threatening to knock her out and spat at her. Then he's started jumping around like a baboon in front of me shouting the same stuff. He then threatened to kill us both & have our house done over. I think somebody called the police, maybe Tesco, but it was witnessed by a few people as it was broad daylight right outside the shop in front of cctv. I also recorded the audio of it happening on my fone. I've found out since that he's on a community order and a supervision order... which basically means that I've got the evidence that could see him sent down.

Unfortunately, there's shit loads of these scallies living round here & they know where we live. Since then, there's been a rise of them hovering around the house outside & staring in, & people on motorbikes going past & shouting things. I also saw a couple of his mates down the street who basically looked like they were about to run over & give me a kicking.

This is really stressful at an already really stressful time. I've got shit loads of work to do as I'm about to complete my 2nd year at uni & I've lost a load of time on that already as we were in Plymouth for 3 weeks unexpectedly. I'm not entirely sure what's best to do. There are some guys who could come down to have a word type of thing but I've simply not had time to sort anything out. Basically we just want to be fucking left alone in peace.

Thugs are thugs and I have been on the wrong end too.

Scallies is another name for thugs and I hate them.

i am sorry that they got you and your wife involved.

Get cynical and use every means you can.

Police, press and legal pursuits.

Not much but it what should be your means.

Best wishes

They're a fucking pest, and pretty much sums up what's going wrong with the youth of today.
Nasty, violent & dumbed down. Don't do fuck all apart from smoke weed & hover about thinking everybody else owes them a living.

No not all. Just the conspicuous thugs and they have been around with every generation.

I admit that the shitstream section of each generation are getting a lot of encouragement these days.

Hold tight and pester the coppers. they work for you after all

I'm sorry to hear about your Mrs Brother...

As for the thugs play it smart as you can and try to keep your distance while being aware and on point.

You have my sympathies. I had my share of such similar encounters while I was in England still. Incidents at work when I was at Lidl and one incident when I was hit over the head with a brick or something whilst walking home. I have not encountered that kind of thing since being in USA and hope it stays that way. I wish I had a solution to your problem. I am not sure that there is one really but I wish you the best of luck in dealing with the problem.

mikey mikey wrote:
You're probably right, but they seem to be proliferating.
Not sure about the cops. I don't really want the responsibility of sending somebody to prison for a couple of years. Plus, it could make stuff worse. Obviously our safety is paramount though.

.......... wrote:
Thanks.
It's a bit difficult to keep distance as we all live in the same 'hood' so every time I need to go to the shop or something there are some of these idiots hovering around.

Hmmmm, could you have a very visual bbq with all the biggest ugliest blokes you know invited?

Is there any chance you can go back to the parents house of the main instigator and tell them you have the evidence that will put him away and unless he stops what he's doing now, you will?

Any time in my life when I've ended up in a situation where I've had to deal with the type of fucks you've described, I'm not ashamed to say that everytime my answer has always been to fight fire with fire. Most people would disagree with this and advise another method but its worked for me. I find that if I can be a 'bigger' bastard than the bastard I'm facing, then the bastard turns out to be not that big at all.
Sorry thats probably not going to be much help.

Sorry about the loss of your brotherinlaw too, so very young

oioioi wrote:
That had crossed my mind... but it's pissing it down & really windy atm!
Also I live at the end of the estate, so it might not get seen.
There are some people I can call on but they'll be coming from elsewhere & it will be hard to organise actually confronting them & telling them to fuck off, & they won't want to be hanging about.

psketti wrote:
Yep, that's something I've considered doing as well. I can't be fucked to go round there though. I'd send it through the post but I'm not sure of the number.
I'm so busy atm I've not got time to be fucking about with little dweebs or feeling like this

If they get a whiff of fear, they won't let go.

How old are they btw?

psketti wrote:

Space Bandit if your over 30 i do not agree with psketti or oioioi...

Keep a level head and don't show fear, but being aggressive is not always best when dealing with teenage crews who can be swift with weapons. The problem with the cops when dealing with a bad pack of teens is that even if 1 or 2 get in trouble there might always be a few more possibly lingering around.

I could be (badly) wrong here, but all this posturing seems to indicate they're preoccupied with intimidation - basically bullying. This could still mean they'll escalate it, but what you're describing sounds like that shitty 'look at how many of us there are, we're making your life a misery because we can' stuff without doing anything that means the plod will unavoidably be involved. The lad might not want to go to prison or might not give a shit - either way there could be repercussions if you get them involved. The plod are fucking useless.
If at all possible, I'd favour the intimidating mates approach. It's a massive gamble and I take no responsibility for this in terms of any real world events, but if one of them got the shit kicked out of them there's a reasonable chance they'd bottle it. Or possibly do something really bad in revenge. That's the thing - there's no real right answer because any option has unpredictable effects. But really serious people don't bother with this primate display bullshit. They just do someone.

If organising a confrontation is a problem, fuck it - take it to their house. The parents might change their tune about not being arsed if the right people are telling them to reign their spawn in. Unless, of course, they know somebody.

It's such a shame there is such a poor sense of community. If neighbours looked out for each other, this kind of bullshit simply could not happen.

Really sorry to hear about your situation. Hope you manage to get it sorted.

psketti wrote:
Very true. Which is why we confronted him in the first place. the mrs isn't one to back down.... I just want a peaceful life!
They're all about 20ish I reckon.
I reckon it was these guys that burgled our house years ago. They need sorting out.........

psketti wrote:
Yes.

dogsmilk wrote:
I think it's important to take note of the part in bold here.

Remember this if your on estate the teenage kids there might not be scared of your Goons if they just come and go.

Having a tuff guy BBQ, is not something people over age 30 do.

dogsmilk wrote:
That's pretty much how I view it with regards to the intimidation... it's like, well what are you going to do apart from harass us?
I'm pretty sure I'm in for a kicking though, and the Mrs doesn't feel comfortable walking about. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to go to prison.... but you never know these days it's almost like some status thing to do a bit... plus, then come out & be more of a nuisance.
I'm also favouring the intimidating mates approach but I don't want any violence. just a warning. It will end up getting taken to his house.
I can't live like this so it's got to get sorted.