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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 19:54 #141

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Anybody who knows my posts will agree that I am very affectionate to my jewish cousins, but the powers of today's Israel are necon fascists and need condemnation.

Many jewish public figurres say the same.

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And there is no better aid for Netanyahu and the Israeli Wing nuts' re-election than Hamas and the continual threat they pose.

So not matter what the wingnuts and Netanyahu do to the Palestinians, it's of course the fault of hamas? That it?

When all this dies down the majority of people within a day will stop posting "Pro Palestinian" arguments on facebook, most people here will also return to not thinking or posting on Palestine or Israel, they will probably not study the history, the background, they won't bother understanding the interests at work in the region.

It's not a simple thing Psketti, if this was the 1920's middle East or the holocaust you'd have been taking the position in favour of the Jews, you've got to think in centuries and historical events more than days and headlines.
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:03 #142

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Fuck 'historical context'.
I find images of Palestinian kids being maimed and killed by the IDF as disgusting as images of Israeli kids maimed and killed by Hamas rocket bombs...I just don't seem to see as many of the latter.
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:23 #143

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Fuck 'historical context'.
I find images of Palestinian kids being maimed and killed by the IDF as disgusting as images of Israeli kids maimed and killed by Hamas rocket bombs...I just don't seem to see as many of the latter.
Yeah obviously, you know already and have done for years that Israel has a far superior military and defense budget than Hamas, to go against them would be fucking stupid, unfortunately the only people who never seem to realise this are Hamas.

They seem not to care how many they encourage to martyrdom, they don't seem to care how many are hit by Israeli bombs.

Maybe they are fucking stupid?
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:32 #144

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Guevarista wrote:
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Fuck 'historical context'.
I find images of Palestinian kids being maimed and killed by the IDF as disgusting as images of Israeli kids maimed and killed by Hamas rocket bombs...I just don't seem to see as many of the latter.
Yeah obviously, you know already and have done for years that Israel has a far superior military and defense budget than Hamas, to go against them would be fucking stupid, unfortunately the only people who never seem to realise this are Hamas.

They seem not to care how many they encourage to martyrdom, they don't seem to care how many are hit by Israeli bombs.

Maybe they are fucking stupid?

So by that flogic all Israelis who have a kid killed by a Hamas rocket will turn their hatred towards the Israeli government.

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You still seem to be trying to justify kids being killed, I'll never be open to that accusation!
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:43 #145

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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:44 #146

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Yeah I want to justify kids being killed.

That's the real meaning behind all my posts in this thread, well done Oi, you've sussed me out.

As I said it is fucking stupid, neigh, the most ridiculous moronic, ludicrous belief you could possibly hold, that your band of a thousand loyal militants will take on the might of Israel, America and Britain with a few fucking RPG's and a copy of the fucking Qur'an. Yet that is apparently what Hamas intends to do and makes no real secret of it, infact we cheer it, as if that's all Palestinians, it's not.
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:48 #147

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Guevarista wrote:
Yeah I want to justify kids being killed.

That's the real meaning behind all my posts in this thread, well done Oi, you've sussed me out.

As I said it is fucking stupid, neigh, the most ridiculous moronic, ludicrous belief you could possibly hold, that your band of a thousand loyal militants will take on the might of Israel, America and Britain with a few fucking RPG's and a copy of the fucking Qur'an. Yet that is apparently what Hamas intends to do and makes no real secret of it, infact we cheer it, as if that's all Palestinians, it's not.

No, it's not the real meaning, it's what you are inadvertently doing though.

Your kid has just been killed by the IDF, you've never had any connections with Hamas, who do seriously think you would turn you anger towards?
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 20:53 #148

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Is it racist to criticise the Palestinians as the worlds most tiresome cry babies with a bogus cause and a plight that's entirely self0inflicted?

No. It is however I good indicator that I needn't waste the next 5 minutes listening to your myopic point of view that will also ultimately seek to justify kids being killed by pointing the finger rather than decrying all killing of kids. :roll:
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:03 #149

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oioioi wrote:
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Yeah I want to justify kids being killed.

That's the real meaning behind all my posts in this thread, well done Oi, you've sussed me out.

As I said it is fucking stupid, neigh, the most ridiculous moronic, ludicrous belief you could possibly hold, that your band of a thousand loyal militants will take on the might of Israel, America and Britain with a few fucking RPG's and a copy of the fucking Qur'an. Yet that is apparently what Hamas intends to do and makes no real secret of it, infact we cheer it, as if that's all Palestinians, it's not.

No, it's not the real meaning, it's what you are inadvertently doing though.

Your kid has just been killed by the IDF, you've never had any connections with Hamas, who do seriously think you would turn you anger towards?
Yeah I'd be angry at Israel, does that mean it's ok to start shooting RPG's at them?
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:06 #150

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Guevarista wrote:
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Yeah I want to justify kids being killed.

That's the real meaning behind all my posts in this thread, well done Oi, you've sussed me out.

As I said it is fucking stupid, neigh, the most ridiculous moronic, ludicrous belief you could possibly hold, that your band of a thousand loyal militants will take on the might of Israel, America and Britain with a few fucking RPG's and a copy of the fucking Qur'an. Yet that is apparently what Hamas intends to do and makes no real secret of it, infact we cheer it, as if that's all Palestinians, it's not.

No, it's not the real meaning, it's what you are inadvertently doing though.

Your kid has just been killed by the IDF, you've never had any connections with Hamas, who do seriously think you would turn you anger towards?
Yeah I'd be angry at Israel, does that mean it's ok to start shooting RPG's at them?

No, it means you can see both halves of the cyclic mindset that is all about pointing the finger ultimately. "They started it", I don't really give a fuck who started it just who's gonna stop it!
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:07 #151

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I really think I must have misinterpreted your last couple of posts Gue cos it looks like you're saying that those that are bullied should just take their beatings and remember they are just titchy folk who should let the big guys do what the heck they want to them....
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oioioi wrote:
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Is it racist to criticise the Palestinians as the worlds most tiresome cry babies with a bogus cause and a plight that's entirely self0inflicted?

No. It is however I good indicator that I needn't waste the next 5 minutes listening to your myopic point of view that will also ultimately seek to justify kids being killed by pointing the finger rather than decrying all killing of kids. :roll:

Wow I;m seeing a pattern emerging here.

Thanks for that video DG, it's nice to find a youtube channel for people like me who love to think about children dying, we love that kind of thing since we disagree with Oi. :rofl:
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:09 #153

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No. It is however I good indicator that I needn't waste the next 5 minutes listening to your myopic point of view that will also ultimately seek to justify kids being killed by pointing the finger rather than decrying all killing of kids. :roll:

That is Pat's 'myopic point of view' you are referring to there right?

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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:10 #154

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I really think I must have misinterpreted your last couple of posts Gue cos it looks like you're saying that those that are bullied should just take their beatings and remember they are just titchy folk who should let the big guys do what the heck they want to them....
When was the last time you told somebody to go and do a suicide bombing at tescos?
Why don't all Palestinian's unite to fight Israel and not just a tiny minority of Religious Hamas fuckwits?

Because not all Palestinians are idiots, wow, I bet some of them have even read Macchiavelli, imagine that, I bet they comprehended better than anybody in the west has for 20 years aswell ;)
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Does that address my point Gue?
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Because not all Palestinians are idiots, wow,

Yet they are all fair game.

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If you condone these current attacks you condone the killing.

Ask yourself, are you condoning them or condemning them?

When the inevitable retaliatory wave of rocket attacks occur be sure to post the images of killed and maimed kids for us to condemn that too.
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:25 #158

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Thanks for that video DG, it's nice to find a youtube channel for people like me who love to think about children dying, we love that kind of thing since we disagree with Oi. :rofl:

You are most welcomes for the vid, hope it helps your comprehension of what reality actually is.
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Re: Gaza under Israeli attack: LIVE UPDATES 18 Nov 2012 21:26 #159

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It must be terrible to be a liberal anarchist.
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oioioi wrote:
If you condone these current attacks you condone the killing.

Ask yourself, are you condoning them or condemning them?

When the inevitable retaliatory wave of rocket attacks occur be sure to post the images of killed and maimed kids for us to condemn that too.
Why do I have to condone or condemn?
Can't I just speak the truth as I see it, as I have done in this thread?
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