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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 07 Sep 2013 19:54 #221

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Gilly wrote:
How is Obama going to keep up the pretense of justifying an excuse to attack...

...And 12 very high-level former intelligence officials wrote the following memorandum to Obama today:

We regret to inform you that some of our former co-workers are telling us, categorically, that contrary to the claims of your administration, the most reliable intelligence shows that Bashar al-Assad was NOT responsible for the chemical incident that killed and injured Syrian civilians on August 21, and that British intelligence officials also know this. In writing this brief report, we choose to assume that you have not been fully informed because your advisers decided to afford you the opportunity for what is commonly known as “plausible denial.


www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07...99t-launch-chemical-
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 07 Sep 2013 20:29 #222

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Senators Authorizing Syria Strike Got More Defense Cash Than Lawmakers Voting No
Senators voting Wednesday to authorize a Syria strike received, on average, 83 percent more campaign financing from defense contractors than lawmakers voting against war.

Overall, political action committees and employees from defense and intelligence firms such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, United Technologies, Honeywell International, and others ponied up $1,006,887 to the 17 members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who voted yes or no on the authorization Wednesday, according to an analysis by Maplight, the Berkeley-based nonprofit that performed the inquiry at WIRED’s request.

Committee members who voted to authorize what the resolution called a “limited” strike averaged $72,850 in defense campaign financing from the pot. Committee members who voted against the resolution averaged $39,770, according to the data.

The analysis of contributions from employees and PACs of defense industry interests ranges from 2007 through 2012 — based on data tracked by OpenSecrets.org.

The authorization must be approved by the full Senate and House.

Among other things, the deal sets a 60-day engagement limit, and bars U.S. ground troops from combat missions. The plan essentially is the legal basis to authorize President Barack Obama to punish Syria for allegedly using chemical weapons, killing some 1,400 people as part of its ongoing civil war.

The top three defense-campaign earners who voted “yes” were Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) at $176,000; Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Illinois) at $127,350; and Sen. Timothy Kaine (D-Virginia) at $101,025.

The top three defense-campaign earners who voted “no” were Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyoming) at $86,500; Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) at $62,790; and Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Connecticut) at $59,250.

www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/syria-...authorization-money/

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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 06:50 #223

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Why is Vladamir Putin showing interest in stopping the Obama administration from flattening Syria, or sending the country back to the dark ages...... this might be the reason why
The facility was established during the Cold War to support the Soviet Navy fleet in the Mediterranean.[6] During the 1970s, similar support points were located in Egypt, Ethiopia, Vietnam and elsewhere. In 1977, the Egyptian support bases at Alexandria and Mersa Matruh were evacuated and the ships and property were transferred to Tartus, where the naval support facility was transformed into the 229th Naval and Estuary Vessel Support Division. Seven years later, the Tartus support point was upgraded to the 720th Material-Technical Support Point.[7]

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Russian Naval base in Tartus, Syria

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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 07:33 #224

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Russian Navy spokesmen said Friday that the fleet building up in the Mediterranean can answer any development after the Smetlivy guided missile destroyer set sail for the Mediterranean. DEBKAfile: Since Wednesday, Moscow has reported six warships have been sent out to reinforce the Russian fleet on hand opposite Syria.

Western naval sources reported Friday that a Chinese landing craft, the Jinggangshan (photo below), with a 1,000-strong marine battalion had reached the Red Sea en route for the Mediterranean off Syria. With a displacement of 19,000 tons, the amphibious warship is 210 meters long and 28 meters wide and can carry helicopters, armored fighting vehicles, boats and landing craft as well as nearly 1,000 soldiers, Jiangxi Daily said.


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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 07:47 #225

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Time for song, eh fuck it......



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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 10:14 #226

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So this arrogant, sickening cunt completely ignores the Syrian lady's proposed alternative to US forces' joining in the merciless butchery, and that's OK because he's on a par with her, in that he's met some Syrian people. :no:
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 10:27 #227

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Gilly wrote:


So this arrogant, sickening cunt completely ignores the Syrian lady's proposed alternative to US forces' joining in the merciless butchery, and that's OK because he's on a par with her, in that he's met some Syrian people. :no:


1 Who put Bashar al Assad into power, ......I wonder who...... :umm:
2 He doesn't give a fuck about Syria or its people , when the bullets,bombs and mortar shells with shrapnel flying in all directions, he ain't gonna be there he'll be tucked up over 4000 miles away smoking cigars, and slurping congac :coffee:
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 10:38 #228

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It's a fair point well put BC.
I've been accused on here and elsewhere of being pro Assad myself. FTR I'm pro people being left to live their lives in peace.
Indeed Assad and his ilk invariably can have their rise to 'tyranny' traced back to Western 'interests' This is why I concentrate on exposing the machinations of Western 'leaders'. That isn't to say that the actions of the installed 'tyrants' should be in any way excused or condoned.
They are all as bad as one a fucking nother.


Ty for bringing up the Russian base btw
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 10:44 #229

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middl...ned-in-Damascus.html

John Kerry And Bashar al Assad Dined together at least 6 times hmmmmmm matey potatee
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 10:45 #230

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Being pro Assad or pro Putin by being anti-War is of course a false dichotomy that I am sure nobody here is suggesting. But I have seen it put forward. But of course that "with us or with them" was used ten years ago too.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 10:49 #231

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Aye mikey. The reduction of all this to a with us or them question is a disgrace. Likewise, any such thought.
What we are talking about here is the lives of real people. People with lives, loves, families, interests, empathy, fears....And we are then talking about them being hideously killed, maimed, displaced, traumatised....down to the machinations of a cosy little group of psychopathic murderers. Namely, globocorp scum.

EDIT: And let's face it just cos the puppet dictators don't realise that they are being set up it doesn't stop them enjoying the ride whilst they are being courted by the West. A globocorp puppet is a globocorp puppet
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 11:35 #232

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The bullet points of this article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24006746

are:

"1- The CIA believes Syria has had a chemical weapons programme "for years and already has a stockpile of CW agents which can be delivered by aircraft, ballistic missile, and artillery rockets"

2- Syria is believed to possess mustard gas and sarin, a highly toxic nerve agent

3- The CIA also believes that Syria has attempted to develop more toxic and more persistent nerve agents, such as VX gas
A report citing Turkish, Arab and Western intelligence agencies put Syria's stockpile at approximately 1,000 tonnes of chemical weapons, stored in 50 towns and cities

4- Syria has not signed the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) or ratified the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BTWC)"

To whit I reply:

1- They wouldn't be a very good security service if they didn't know that US and British companies and numerous globocorp outlets have been trading this shit Worldwide for decades...

2- Yes, Mustard Gas....as perfected in the top secret labs of places like Porton Down and Boscombe Down in the hills of Salisbury plain not far from Stonehenge..

3- So it's ok to let them have 'some' of your instruments of hideous death but if they then try to replicate the with-held parts of your 'arsenal' they have to be fucked over. So it's copyright infringement basically...

4- I aint even dignifying that with a response considering other Nations that regularly flout such conventions, unchallenged.


In summation, the BBC have plunged to new depths of inadequacy. They are failing in their obligation to inform. They are in breach of charter and not fit for purpose. They couldn't be more blatant propaganda if they tried.


BTW the beeb have booted me from the HYS again....Time for yet another sock :D
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 12:37 #233

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mikey mikey wrote:
Being pro Assad or pro Putin by being anti-War is of course a false dichotomy that I am sure nobody here is suggesting. But I have seen it put forward. But of course that "with us or with them" was used ten years ago too.

Us Them Mentality is used all the time, I'm not pro Assad, Putin or anyone i'm Pro Life :coffee:
And it doesn't matter who it is....colour,race religion etc....... :coffee:
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 12:43 #234

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I saw a post the other day from someone living in my neck of the woods, saying they'd seen around 12 aircraft taking off together from BAE Warton. That's not a common sight. I've been trying to find anything that would corroborate that sighting, because if it's for real, it strongly suggests that Cameron's contributing to the planned melee on the sly.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 13:15 #235

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Perhaps when the wider battlefield emerges Gilly.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 13:25 #236

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Syria: MPs could get another vote on military intervention, says William Hague
MPs could be given another chance to vote on military intervention in Syria, William Hague has said, as it emerged two RAF jets scrambled to intercept "suspicious" Syrian aircraft over Cyprus.

By Christopher Hope, Senior Political Correspondent11:46AM BST 08 Sep 2013


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middl...s-William-Hague.html

1st I've heard of these 2 mysterious (imaginary???) Syrian aircraft!
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 13:26 #237

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knobmeup wrote:
They couldn't be more blatant propaganda if they tried.

Prepare to be mistaken... :coffee:
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 13:26 #238

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I would say special Ops are aready there, SBS,SAS, The Kent Guards.The Liverpool boys brigade etc
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 08 Sep 2013 13:35 #239

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I read or heard that the SAS were in over a week ago.
Ahh here we go....
British special forces were last night hunting Syrian missiles in readiness for Allied strikes which could start as early as tomorrow night.

Cruise missile attacks and RAF raids are expected in response to the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons.

A military source said: “It is vital they find every missile site that could threaten British ships or RAF jets and they will probably be taken out by missiles fired from offshore. The risk of capture to these special forces units is off the scale and nobody can be trusted in Syria.”

The British hunt for missiles and chemical weapons – which includes the SAS, Special Boat Service, Special Reconnaissance Regiment and MI6 spies – is one of the most hazardous in modern times as they are up against Assad’s forces as well as some rebel elements.

At the top of the hit list are the President’s sophisticated long-range mobile missile batteries – some of which could be used against our jets.

Special forces troops will use laser and satellite technology to pinpoint the exact location of the key sites so they can be hit in a way that minimises the risk to civilians

More here.....

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sas-huntin...siles-allies-2231694
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